FC Housing, the next generation

Greetings Eorzeans,

This thread is here to discuss ideas what would make housing feasible and fair for FC's but beyond the current ward system as those spots will always be limited with the current set up. Throw Square some brainstorm material!

So how about, a grand company issues town that you and your fellow brothers and sisters of your FC will liberate and help rebuild from the evil <insert bad guys> (garleans perhaps with the current setting?).

The idea is that the grand company your FC is with will issue a special FC quest that can be undertaken as a light or full party where you will delve into an instanced duty, liberating the town from its oppressing rulers and afterwards your GC leader will ask for you and your FC to help them rebuild and manage the town, the townies so grateful for your help will immediately give the previous ruler(you drove him out/killed him) his small mansion to be used as your new FC hall (medium house size)

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Now the town is initially small and in urgent need of repairs, but it shows promise of growing if one puts effort into it, this can be done through again, FC quests (kill the invaders, kill monsters that are lurking beyond the town walls, donate x ammount of granite and mortar to repair the roads and walls... etc...), eventually the town would be able to expand to a city and with it your mansion into an estate hall and as the town further expands with more quests and material donating maybe even something bigger then the large houses we know today.

Naturally this doesn't have to be just an FC mansion but FC members could also relocate themselves to the instanced town, instead of a room in your FC house they can get their own private house with lawn and everything... cause hey, your FC is running the town after all!

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Now to be fair, this won't exactly be realistic to implement this expansion, however it would resolve the issue of housing as it currently is, the old housing could become privatized and be more prestige while FC's could get the better deal by having actual FC content and a potential larger FC house with all members living near eachother.

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You can edit your post to get past the absurd character limit. I would love something like this, but if they can't handle expanding a ward system beyond 30 plots, I'm not sure how they'd handle a town with enough plots for over 500 fc members.

Effectively replacing the FC House/Room system with an FC Town/House system sounds awesome and has a lot of potential.
>Do the quest
>Pay a fee for the deed to the town (it'd have to be a lot for the sake of a gil sink, but would be worth it)
>Name your town
>Over time you gradually improve the town, perhaps using miner class to clear rubble, botanist to plant new flowerbeds and trees, carpenter to erect new signage, etc
>As the town improves, npcs will start arriving and the town will gradually become more lively, with a real lived-in feel to it
>You could even choose the aesthetic of the town to some extent, placing decorations and banners around the place if you choose, maybe choosing the style of the town walls and the stone path?

There's a lot of potential in your idea. The single biggest issue I can see is the potential server load, but since wards are instanced anyway, and what we're talking about is essentially another instanced ward, it might not be too bad.

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Housing system is just fine.

I like this a lot, I only have a few issues tho. The grand company idea should be changed to allow FCs to choose from any of the housing districts. Maybe add in a desperate village npc in all the main city states that have housing to give the said quest you suggested.

I also like the progression you have in place, but you also mentioned instances where the village can be attacked. A feature from 1.0 could actually come back where villages throughout Eorzea could be attacked and adventures had to defend them. I think this would work well with Crafters building fortifications 1-2 days before the attack and then the fight actually happening for a long period of time until it\\'s successfully defended or failed. I think giving a penalty for failing where Crafters have to rebuild or Gil can be spent to just pay for things that got razed. This would promote a more active FC.

Overall I really like this idea. Obviously not something to do for 4.2 but for later on

While I feel like it's a neat idea in theory, I'm not sure how much fun it would be in practice.

An upgradable ward that can meet the needs of an FC is fantastic as we acquire gil and members so we can all hang out together is A+ and I would love that.

But tying that many gameplay elements into it gives me unpleasant flashbacks back to Warcraft and their garrison fiasco. I don't want it to be my catch-all for gameplay, I just want to decorate and RP.

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

Housing system is just fine.

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This statement is even more ridiculous than that stupid lottery suggestion. Well done.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

This statement is even more ridiculous than that stupid lottery suggestion. Well done.

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It really is. Add more, other than that it's only bad if you don't have one. Most want to casually play and expect a house. The market has shown that if you cant handle putting in an incredible amount of time and effort, you shouldn't be looking for a house. It's on par with the real world. Housing is sought after, and is fueling the game on every server. Square knows this, and asks for forgiveness after because its easier. This housing problem is blown way out of proportion, mainly by casual subscribers who do not want to earn a house and by people just blaming the fact that they wern't as good as other players within the context of Shirogane Extreme. Housing is fine, there's just way better, way smarter, way richer players out there that are going to get them, because they want them more. That will never change no matter what details you change.

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

It really is. Add more, other than that it's only bad if you don't have one.

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I think the housing system is bloody terrible and I got my house last year.

Don't assume everyone who thinks it's bad is just some poor sod without a house. I didn't magically become okay with such a broken system when I happened to get something good out of it.

But in my experiences , 95% of people that I talk to, which is alot about this, are people that arent even qualified to buy a house, yet complain religiously, so yes I have the right to say that, cause it's not an assumption if I have alot of experience to back it up. I didn't magically become unokay with the system when bad stuff happened to me either like Shirogane. Some won, some lost, andeveryone in the world knew it would be that way. The forums were painted with " I hope im lucky enough to get a house in Shiro", but when they didn't get one all of sudden they were prisoners of the moment.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

You can edit your post to get past the absurd character limit. I would love something like this, but if they can't handle expanding a ward system beyond 30 plots, I'm not sure how they'd handle a town with enough plots for over 500 fc members.

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Thank you for the nice tip!

And to everyone else thank you for the feedback!

I do admit that it may be very stressful on the servers but possibly this can be initially started as without FC members their personal housing and to be added in a later patch.

And this isn't to "replace" normal housing, the one that we know with wards and everything will still be there, but lets not say that the current way housing works is "fine", because it really isn't for FC's. I have my own personal large house but even so I would like to see a solution for FC housing because the inability to have an airship locks them out of grouped content.

To go back on topic though, I wasn't aware that 1.0 had these neat features Pastahnak, they could surely be complementing this type of housing quite well and contribute a slice of realism to it!

Secondly, this isn't mandatory housing mind, its merely side content which FC's could undertake and keep themselves occupied with!

I really appreciate all your feedback, please keep it comming!

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

95% of people that I talk to, which is alot about this, are people that arent even qualified to buy a house, yet complain religiously, so yes I have the right to say that, cause it's not an assumption if I have alot of experience to back it up.

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Yeah the hell with the lottery system.
I propose we have our high & mighty lord Abelfei to be the one to distribute housing if he finds the people worthy. It makes sense to go this route, he knows better than everybody else.