Dear SE: I Like Arenvald. . . Please Don't Kill Him (4.1 Spoiler-free)

I thought little of him throughout Stormblood, just another Ala Mighan fighting for home. . . When he saw Zenos defeated, sounded the horn, and rose up the flag while everyone sang, I thought, "That's my boy! Raise it up proudly!"

As of 4.1, it was nice to learn more about him, and see just how much conviction and heart he has. He's just the right amount of humble, and dorky, but reliable that I would now consider him a friend, arguably as much as the other Scions now. . . Please don't kill him off.

Yeah, I'm starting to like him too, but I don't want to get too attached because you know what happened in HW with a certain character... T^T

SE don't do this to me again! DX

Don't give them the idea!

They already have the idea, its just whether they will fake us out or not. That said throw my hat in on "keeping him alive". While he may only now be getting a bigger part he has been with the Scions since near the start of ARR.

Its not Arenvald I'm worried about...

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Originally Posted by Kahnom

Its not Arenvald I'm worried about...

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Don't worry. Limb loss, imprisonment, and entire servers couldn't stop him. Pretty sure nothing short of a battle against Godbert might stop him.

It's like GoT...don't get too attached...

I am not really a fan of him. I don't dislike him, but I am not liking him like I like(d) Moenbryda or Haurchefant (rip you two) or the other Scions for that matter. Maybe he will grow on me in time. Also stop it with Fedola. We get it. You like her. At least that was my vibe on him. It is a lost cause as Fedola does not care in return.

Kill Lyse if you must. Don't go the Moenbryda way og introducing a new character to kill and plot shield the old timers.

I don't think it's attraction as much as it is he sees himself in her. Someone who had it rough early on like him, and made some bad choices, but isn't beyond saving. If he could climb up from the man he was and become a Scion, perhaps she can become more than what she is now too. Arenvald's indeed a good man. Not the smartest, but the Scions have plenty of brainpower. Nice to have a friend on the frontline, ready to fight with you again.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Nice to have a friend on the frontline, ready to fight with you again.

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You know by saying this it has officially secured his death. Cause you know... look what happened to the last guy that fought on the frontlines right with you.

Meh if killing him gives more screen time for Krile, you know the Scion they introduced and then forgot about? Then I'm all for killing him off.

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Originally Posted by Rofel

Kill Lyse if you must. Don't go the Moenbryda way og introducing a new character to kill and plot shield the old timers.

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Arenvald isn't a new character, he's been around since 2.0. He just wasn't anything but a minor character until recently, to the point I thought he had died when Livia had attacked the Waking Sands.

Personally I'm seeing three characters with big death flags:

Arenvald, a full on ally of ours who is suddenly getting more screentime, who has some similar abilities as us but isn't as strong. Would probably die trying to help out in an area we aren't able to get to fast enough.

Fordola, who is being forced to see the pain of others and how she herself caused it in many cases. It doesn't invalidate the pain she herself has endured but does make her actions out to be worse in regards to how she sees it. If she dies it would most likely be as a sacrifice to atleast do something she hopes it right this time.

Yotsuyu, the one I personally see most likely to die. Personally still think she should have died already but, well, memory loss is a thing FF likes to do in previous games. She'll either die after returning to being a villian, die preforming a sacrifice when her new perspective changes her mind on things, or actually get killed off by vengful NPCs regardless of her own feelings on the matter (something that Fordola probably won't have happen to her but we've seen NPCs want to do.)

Also Krile hasn't been forgotten about, she was even mentioned near the end of the patch story. The ordeal she went through is something she has to recover from though, similar to how Y'shtola ultimately was taking out of most of SB's story to recover.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

entire servers couldn't stop him.

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True.I just don't want to see her Grace crying.

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Originally Posted by Pomelo

Meh if killing him gives more screen time for Krile, you know the Scion they introduced and then forgot about? Then I'm all for killing him off.

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You obviously skipped cutscenes or forgot about her in 4.0. She did have screentime, she was captured, and there was a whole mission of rescuing her. She's obviously recovering from that ordeal.

See this is why I wish they wouldn't push him quite so hard. Because then we get attached and then they have merit in killing him. Keep him juuuust a bit to the side, thank you.

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Originally Posted by Vrankyl

You know by saying this it has officially secured his death. Cause you know... look what happened to the last guy that fought on the frontlines right with you.

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To be fair, Alphinaud isn't half the fighter, but he's hit the frontlines with you when the need arose before.

I also love him. Him and Fordola are my two favorite new characters of SB.

Calling it now... Fordola will progressively grow on us but because of everything she has done we as a player can't forgive her. Story will go and she will ultimately sacrifice herself to save us or the story and by doing this redeeming herself in our eyes - the player. Only at the end she will truly find peace. This is what I'm expecting.

They have a history of killing off characters that have any sort of personality and/or depth so I try not to get too attached to anyone.

LMAO
I'm not even gonna read, just... that title. LMAO
It's so true. :|

I haven't finished 4.1 MSQ yet, but I want to say that this topic's title is aready a spoiler for me... (=_=;

Killing off characters that people grew attached to is already getting old. I really hope they don't do the same thing again with any character for a long, long time.

Nah..You see. This is what is going to happen.

Arenvald will be walking down the street minding his own business. Good man, got to be a boss and get stuff done! Good days work, ya'll!

Then suddenly, an Ascian appears! He calls him out all 'Yo, you're the warrior of light's friend? We need to break him/her!' and then this big Monstrosity of a Chimera appears; The kicker is it has Haurchefant's soul in it and saying random lines he was known for! You are now forced to kill him while he cries out in pain yelling 'Please! I don't wish to hurt my friend!'

When you defeat him the Chimera slowly drops to the ground before the words 'You...You are unharmed? F-Forgive me... I could not bear the thought of... of- Oh, do not look at me so. A smile better suits a hero' and then..POOF!

Just going to leave this here:
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Originally Posted by dinnertime

Killing off characters that people grew attached to is already getting old. I really hope they don't do the same thing again with any character for a long, long time.

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Literally every character boasts a fan following, though. Some just have some incredibly vocal fans who kick and scream at the mere suggestion of anything bad happening to their favourite characters. I like Arenvald but I'm not opposed to him being killed off so long as it is done in a way that makes sense and has a lasting impact. As it stands, very few characters have perished in the grand scheme of things and by the end of 4.0 not one but two nations are liberated from Garlemald's grasp without any major characters perishing along the way.

It's hard to consider the antagonists a threat when they're not allowed to succeed due to a troubling amount of plot armour and plot convenience on behalf of the protagonists. If they do kill him off, though, hopefully they remember he exists as the plot moves forward. It irritates me that a certain soldier perished in Azys Lla and has yet to be mentioned at all despite sacrificing his life to save someone he had not obligation to protect.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

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Oh, I meant characters that the majority likes. There are others more during Heavensward that sacrificed theirselves, although they aren't as liked. All of it lead to this trend of people trying to predict who dies next which has been annoying to me, personally.

Character deaths are fine if done right, but I haven't seen much in FFXIV that executed it well so I'd rather they keep them alive and give them some more time and development, same for antagonists since antagonists need their fair share, too. They're never threatening which is true.

I'd rather he stayed around, too. He's been quietly keeping Urianger company in the Waking Sands since 2.0, and it's nice that the minor Scions have been getting screen time here and there.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

Killing off characters that people grew attached to is already getting old.

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Death has no emotional impact if you 'didn't' grow attached to the character prior. So whenever you want to pull death as a plot device to make a threat seem actually threatening, you need to build up the character you're going to kill off in advance. And since the scions and waifus of this game are entirely off limits, they can only do that with side characters, hence people get wary when one of them suddenly gets spotlight. It often means they're trying to make you care for that character so that their death gains impact.

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I haven't finished 4.1 MSQ yet, but I want to say that this topic's title is aready a spoiler for me... (=_=;

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The only way it would be a "spoiler" is if Arenvald was either already established to be a major character or someone previously thought to have been dead, and he's neither.

Let's not call spoilers where none exist; this isn't GameFAQs.

Of the remaining Scions, I think we need a bit of a reshuffle. Y'shtola's blind if not for sensing Aether, and Thancred can't use magic anymore (not that it seems like he did all that much before). The twins are. . . special cases, as Alphy's both diplomat and director (at times), and Ali's a fighter, but not quite as composed as the others. Urianger's largely information support. Arenvald already being a member is a logical choice for a new Scion "elite" member.

I can see them keeping Arenvald but killing off one of the twins... can you imagine the consequences of killing off Alphinaude?

I can't take him seriously with that stupid white marking on his face.

I vote die.