Majority of us are feeling the burn of this mornings shameful display of SE's appreciation for its player base. Client crashes, long queues, and housing gone in minutes. Players are using alt accounts to buy multiple plots, reselling plots for ridiculous prices, etc. I've been reading the posts today and I keep hearing the same story. Players saving for years patiently waiting for the new ward. Today was the day of hope we all dreamed about.
So I purpose this FF players. DON'T BUY ANYTHING FROM THE MOG STATION. IF YOUR AT THE END OF THE ROPE UNSUBSCRIBE.
We pay them our hard earned real life money for an experience. We expect a positive one! I expect them to invest some of our money into infrastructure to provide adequate housing for players and not just to the lucky ones, or the greedy ones, or the cheaters! We have to ban together and make them listen!
STRIKE UNTIL HOUSING IS FIXED!!
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10-11-2017, 04:49 AMPureSteelSTRIKE UNTIL HOUSING IS FIXED!!
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10-11-2017, 04:26 PMsorawild34
Hate to burst your bubble but a strike like this won't work. The vast majority of players (including myself) don't give a crap about housing at all.
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10-11-2017, 04:46 PMSairysI mean... there were so many people interested that the 720 plots released sold in less than half an hour on every server and every one that freed up in other wards was claimed too afaik. And like, if enough people start leaving over it, it'll start impacting other aspects of the game, even if they're not the majority.Quote:
Originally Posted by sorawild34
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10-11-2017, 05:00 PMCalvin49
As far as I'm concerned, I will stop buying anything from Mog Station.
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10-11-2017, 05:11 PMsorawild34I think you are also forgetting that their are legit "Land Barons" in this game who buy up entire wards. Like apparently there was an FC in midgardsormr that bought up a whole ward in Shirogane in less than minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sairys
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10-11-2017, 05:41 PMXikerothYou may not care about housing, however the "land barons" can't get every plot of land, and even when they do the simple fact people buy the houses at stupid high prices still proves your point... incorrect to say the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by sorawild34
Let me ask you this. You "don't care" about housing yet you're here in the housing forums. For what reason, exactly? If you have no interest in it the only possible reason you could be here is to troll. -
10-11-2017, 05:58 PMDalmacus
You can strike all you want but i didn't play or sub to FFXIV because of housing. So no, the majority of us is not that salty about housing.
But yes housing system should have been a "FC" exclusive deal instead. Not sure why they decided to allow personal housing back in 2.4 and not sure why it took 4 years for people to start complaining about housing when it didn't get much attention back then. -
10-11-2017, 08:19 PMAlien_Gamer
Yes, housing sucks. Am I salty about it? Not even close. I knew what we were getting with Shiro, I knew what to expect upon logging in, I knew what to expect with the download...and everything happened as expected. If anything plots were bought more slowly than I expected. Most of the salt on this forum is from people knowing all of this and still expecting to get a house when the reality was the odds were against you. The bottom line is, people's expectations were unreasonable and now they're pissed about it.
I don't hold SE blameless, I think its beyond time they implemented a better system but its not worth the level of rage I see being thrown around. But thats my opinion and I know most will disagree. -
10-11-2017, 08:36 PMBesame
If I didn't already have a medium house in the beds, I would of been gone with the wind a while back.
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10-11-2017, 08:43 PMHulveinBlitzI said this before, why medium/large plots can be purchased as private is beyond me. SE also need to consider adjusting to the amount of gil in circulation on worlds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalmacus
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10-11-2017, 09:30 PMMitsubashibash
/laugh at the people who don't care about housing trolling the threads in the housing forum.....
If Housing wasn't important SE wouldn't have spent the past four months bigging it up and using it as a selling point for the expansion. -
10-11-2017, 09:48 PMAmenianThe salt, the demand high enough to enable the existence of land barons, the speed with which plots get bought. All of these things prove you wrong. You may not care, and possibly the company you surround yourself with. You are in the minority though, regardless of how much your ego may disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by sorawild34
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10-11-2017, 09:49 PMsilverlunarfoxI dont agree with the FC exclusive since people will just form FC's to get plots. It's not exactly difficult to do. But they should restrict land purchases on an account to at least make it more work for those that buy up whole wards, if theyre not going to do anything else about the system. It really is a shame a few ruin the experience for the whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalmacus
But I also agree, I don't pay my sub for housing. I have a house, but went years without one. Nothing was lost. All I gained was something fun to decorate and to use when I don't feel like going to the FC house. -
10-11-2017, 10:15 PMQT_Melon
I don't want to deprive people of having a personal size house they'd like...however, I feel like they need to make some subdivisions FC exclusive only. I feel bad for FCs that spent years trying to earn the money so they can have a home. Whether others care or not, the fact that they did design FC exclusive items for housing would make it frustrating for a game that is showing Growth.
By at least locking one subdivision for housing (and also preventing land grabbing by alts by locking the number of homes purchasable by account) It would balance out.
I think "the neighborhood should look filled up" is a non issue. Buying a personal home only invites at least 3 players at most into that ward, where an FC can have more players hanging out. Yes, there are FCs with only one member these days but account locking isn't a bad thing. Allowing 1 house/fc house is fine.
While there are those that like to tout the exclusivity of owning homes, let's think about this for a moment: it's not difficult content to own a home. So it is kind of silly when it becomes more frustrating than a raid or extreme primal to acquire. -
10-11-2017, 10:52 PMElspeth
So a strike isn't going to work, the experience your having isn't SEs fault, they have provided a housing service which everyone has equal rights to.
What's causing your bad experience is players being inconsiderate, people complain that land barons sell the plots off for extremely high prices, but that means people are buying them.
Strike against that and you stop land barons, refusing to buy from the mog station isn't going to make SE come up with a fix to general douchebaggery -
10-11-2017, 10:58 PMHyoMinParkFrom what I’ve seen, I’ve seen more people angry that the servers themselves (newly “upgraded” NA servers, nonetheless) were unable to handle the traffic, and the launcher failing to even respond versus not getting a plot. A lot of people have said they wouldn’t be angry if they just hadn’t been fast enough getting to the plot; they’re saying they’re mad because the game itself literally prevented them from even having a chance. I don’t think people were expecting to get a house, but they were at least hoping for a chance to. There is a difference there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer
I’m not surprised that they went fast. I’m just upset that these new servers SE supposedly got when they relocated the NA data centers couldn’t handle the traffic. It’s 2017. And the developers continue to cling to this Hunger Games-style housing system, even admidst the outrage over it from a lot of people.
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Originally Posted by Elspeth
In theory, people have equal rights to housing. But, in reality, it all boils down to “who was lucky enough to land a lobby server error or unresponsive launcher at 3:01am PST” and “who was lucky enough to smoothly log in with only 100 people ahead of them in queue”.
I do agree that I don’t think a Mogstation strike is going to make a difference. Because if something comes out that people really want, they’ll probably buy it anyways. Really the only thing that would get SE’s attention would be a mass exodus of subscribers, but even that is unlikely to happen. Sadly, being disappointed with them and their housing system design choices just isn’t enough to prompt any sort of change... -
10-11-2017, 11:03 PMNyghtmarerobu
I understand people are upset, and you have a right to be. SE hasn't done anything to fix the housing issue since well... never. They have however tried to give people some of the so-called "content" -if you can even call it that- to people who own Apartments and FC rooms and the like. Gardening has simple planters to use indoors, and apartments come with their own chocobo stables. Airship ventures are locked, but honestly, thats literally just Retainer ventures... using airships.. its not different at all. Diadem and by extension Eureka, you can do from ishgard. So with all of this in mind, if the one thing you came to this game to do was decorate a room, I think you should just un-sub and find a new game, because that is literally all you are striking about. If you are an FC and have not been able to get a house. Make some noise, get heard but make it clear, you are fighting for FC rights to buy a house, for you and your mates to have a place to call home, not for your right to decorate some place. There is a whole game to play, and if its the 1 thing you pay 15 dollars to do and haven't been able to do it... welp.. I don't feel sorry..
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10-11-2017, 11:04 PMk99I can't fault SE on the data center's ability to handle traffic, because everyday traffic doesn't look like or even come close to the massive influx of connection requests at that very moment when the servers went up. Daily traffic isn't at the same level as the morning scramble for property. You cannot possibly calculate how much additional resource you're going to need for something that is literally 30 minutes of spiked traffic. What players were doing was literally the equivalent to a DDoS, so think about what you're saying when you're expecting SE to be ready for such a massive DDoS. For all you know, someone could very well have timed a DDoS attack at literally the time of server's going up. What better time to grief players than a scheduled time of known high connectivity.Quote:
Originally Posted by HyoMinPark
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10-12-2017, 12:02 AMRosekitten
I've already un-subbed, as well as my husband. He was already getting a little burnt out on the game currently though. No I'm not purely un-subbing because of the houses but it was sort of the final straw. The longer I thought about it the sillier it felt to stick around in a game that I have been trying to save up and get a FC house or my little group of people for three years now. It became more absurd to me when I thought about how free to play mmo's can manage to get houses to anyone who wants/afford or does whatever quest for them. Even FF XI managed to have a housing system that everyone could use.
Yes I know XIV has a larger player base then the free to play mmos and probably XI but as it is a sub game I would assume they could afford the servers or what not that they need to at least do better than allowing only 2% of their player population a chance at housing. -
10-12-2017, 12:05 AMAxxion
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...en-Ignored-Yet dont give up hope just yet. Still stand united to get your voice out there
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10-12-2017, 12:42 AMsorawild34What are you talking about? The vast majority of players dont give a crap about housing. They buy a plot of land and then never use it again. This is how it's always been ever since SE made privet housing a thing. A week from now the wards in Shirogane will be barren like all the other housing wards are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amenian
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10-12-2017, 12:48 AMsorawild34I don't think you know how it works. When a game gets popular enough there is no way to predict the amount of players there will be. Every popular online game has this problem eventually where there are just too many people and the servers can't handle it. The fact that it's "Current Year" doesn't mean a damn thing. Tech has advanced quite a bit over the past decade but it's no where near as good as you seem to think it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by HyoMinPark
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10-12-2017, 02:47 AMAlmagnus1You forgot to say SE not restricting personal houses to only one house per server - that's half of the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elspeth