(I know it has been asked many times, yet it's even worse now)
Facts:
-Few players have 2-4 characters listed in Top100 the same data center
-6-9 alts on leaderboard everyday last month
-2-3 alts in top10 last three weeks (main characters also listed in top10)
Suggested solutions:
1-Take the highest ranking among all participanted characters, reward all characters(new characters included) in account. Reset all characters' rating besides the one with highest score before season ends (e.g. Last day/hour of the season)
2-Rating sharing for all characters in one account (not recommended)
3-Rating sharing for all characters in one data center (need more discussion)
Skilled players should be rewarded, but all players suppose to have the same chance of obtaining the prize
Players who competing for top 10 should also have the equal chance to obtain the rewards. There's no point giving top 10 prize to 7 actual players.
Rewarding problems need to be taken more seriously
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Update: In case if they reset all alts' score and take the highest ranking to reward,
15 more spots will be available in top 100
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Update in Nov: 14 alts from the DC, 16-20 alts in total if cross DC alts included
[Request] Make Top100 & Top10 rewards account-wide
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10-06-2017, 07:02 PMArthur_Gwen[Request] Make Top100 & Top10 rewards account-wide
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10-06-2017, 07:09 PMShirolumi
I agree with this, seeing the same healer have 3 alts on top 100, while yes, I commend them for being good enough to get all of the characters up there, I feel like that is 2 spots that could go to other players.
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10-11-2017, 06:16 PMArthur_Gwen
Been asked too many times but got no response, so ppl just stopped asking
Noooo don't give up lol -
10-11-2017, 06:25 PMArisatoThere was a response in the live letter. They believe that team registration would kill the needs for using an alt to climb or something along those lines. Still a pretty bad response though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur_Gwen
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10-11-2017, 07:36 PMThirdChild_ZKI
They also believed the chat restriction - and not implementing a change to Fronlines that people asked for for 3 years as well as the GARO event - was a reason more people began to PvP.
They ALSO believed that lifting GC restrictions might cause "moral degradation" of players. (It didn't.)
Not hard to see that, AGAIN, what they believe and what's actually true aren't matching up. . . -
10-11-2017, 09:38 PMShirolumi
Well I started doing Feast with the chat restriction implemented since I felt more comfortable that way. Also, ppl on JP datacenters PvPed lots even before GARO (And we know they pay more attention to JP community unfortunately). So I can actually believe them when they claim that that is the reason. And since they specifically mentioned chat restriction, when talking about more people queuing for PvP they probably mean the Feast.
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10-12-2017, 04:11 PMMozusu
For every person that tries to get into Feast by not having the ability to chat i guarantee there are also people who quit feast and get annoyed because they cannot say anything and the justification for why is you might hurt someones feelings or make them uncomfortable because they have to learn to deal with people having an expectation of them.
Yet we're allowed to vote kick people from Duty Finder for having an uncooperative playstyle or just being excessively incompetent -
10-12-2017, 08:46 PMGeryth100% double standard between PvE and PvPQuote:
Originally Posted by Mozusu
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10-13-2017, 02:02 AMArthur_GwenI'm talking about ranked feast lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Geryth
If pve rules being implemented in ranked feast (vote abandon/kick etc) then the game completely broken
Furthermore, pve player base is hundreds time larger than pvp (even more if talking about ranked specifically), rules can not be set in the same way simply -
10-13-2017, 03:41 AMGerythI'm not saying we should allow people to get kicked in PvP, I'm just pointing out that they have gone to such lengths to protect players' feelings in ranked Feast but in PvE not only can you berate your fellow party members with full chat capability, you can kick party members. Why care so much about the feelings of PvP players but give us tools to do more against a bad PvE performer than tell them to git gud?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur_Gwen
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10-13-2017, 04:43 AMZojhaI think you can actually kick people in PvP. The restrictions of the vote-kick feature are: Once every 4 hours, 5 minutes need to have elapsed on the duty and the party needs to be outside of combat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geryth
I'd not be surprised if you could kick in Feast, too, provided those prerequisites are met. The combat bit is the most iffy, since getting out of combat in PvP can take aaages. That used to be a problem long ago actually. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...le-(Frontlines) . I'm not sure if the adjustments made back then still hold, but if they do, you actually can kick more liberally in PvP than in PvE (And ironically, in Frontlines the chat is still there, too). For Feast, you'll just have to try it out. I imagine it works under the PvE rules there, which would mean theoretical parity and practical impossibility. -
10-13-2017, 04:58 AMGerythAh, I thought it was 15 minutes which would rule out kicking in feast and a vast majority of frontlines. Maybe I was confusing it with the Vote Abandon timer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zojha
I have actually tried kicking bots from Frontlines so I totally should have known that. Turns out bots are self preserving since they'll never vote-kick another player. -
10-13-2017, 09:31 AMArthur_GwenI don't think they remove chat for "protect players' feeling", they just did that to lower workload about reports imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Geryth
Feast chat should be recovered for learning and teaching, at least in training mode
I'm asking for fair competition in this thread, making everyone have the same chance to obtain the rewards rather than climbing to top 100 then fighting for spots with 15 alts
This's not a "protect players' feeling" theme request lol -
10-13-2017, 03:53 PMMirch
Why not let uncle be number one in all data centers, he deserves it
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10-24-2017, 01:21 PMArthur_GwenHe deserves rank 1 prize, so give his characters the prize in all DCsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirch
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10-24-2017, 04:59 PMMirchexcept mana..i dont see him thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Arthur_Gwen
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10-25-2017, 11:31 AMNicobo
The real solution should be restricting reward for once character per account.
Just like ppl suggested one house per account. -
10-25-2017, 10:20 PMRiyahArp
Or they could just get rid of competitive.
Just give players the ability to set up their own leagues. I think they are working on that. Competitive Feast has been a failure since inception. You can't part-time competitive level PvP. -
10-30-2017, 02:30 PMArthur_GwenThat will cause more alt accounts imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Nicobo
Allow alts and reward all characters in one account with highest ranking should be better -
11-03-2017, 10:52 AMTitor
I would like to see this, it would be nice to get these rewards account wide. I think the highest ranked character should be taken into account, not preventing alts from playing entirely, just not letting them place in top 100