I can't check atm, but pretty sure I saw in the INT Tooltip that it effects some dark moves. Has anyone tested this and found out what it effects, if it even does?
INT effecting some dark moves
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10-02-2017, 10:18 PMkoroko220INT effecting some dark moves
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10-03-2017, 03:45 AMFelorr
The INT tooltip reads as follows:
"Affects attack magic potency when role is Tank or DPS."
The following DRK actions are considered "Spells" in their tooltips:
Unleash (unaspected damage)
Unmend (unaspected damage)
Grit (tank stance)
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10-03-2017, 01:54 PMPhoenicia
All tank abilities scale from STR. Including those that do magic damage, and those are:
Paladin: Holy Spirit and Flash.
Dark Knight: Unleash, Unmend, Abyssal Drain and Dark Passenger.
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10-03-2017, 03:45 PMTint
yes they scale from STR, not from INT.
however, they also scale with Spell Speed, not with Skill Speed, but tanks don't have Spell Speed on their gear and this makes the Skill Speed stat even worse on DRK, since it doesn't affect your aoe attacks at all. -
10-03-2017, 05:34 PMFreyyy
I think that they wrote the tooltip like this because healers magic damage now scale with MND, when it used to scale with INT as well. They should've worded it differently since tank magic damage scale with STR, only caster DPS scale with INT.
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10-03-2017, 05:41 PMCabalabob
Tooltip descriptions are kind of outdated at this point, since they removed cross class for the role system there isn't really any overlap between jobs anymore (the only exception that comes to mind being SMN's physick). So all jobs just scale off their main stat. All NIN moves are DEX based even their magical ninjutsu's, all DRK and PLD moves are STR based even their spells, all healer spells are MND based, RDM vercure is INT based. Etc.
If physick was changed to INT on SMN basically all tooltips could be updated to just say increases effectiveness of <Job>. Except VIT which would just be increases max HP. -
10-03-2017, 07:17 PMFreyyyThe thing is that the tooltips have all been updated with 4.0. The INT tooltip currently states that INT affects DPS and tank magic damage, but it's incorrect for the tank part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalabob
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10-03-2017, 07:20 PMkoroko220Exactly and before 4.0 I've never seen INT mention any tanks or even dark specifically, which is why I asked if anyone has tested, because that seems odd to me they are mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freyyy
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10-04-2017, 12:09 AMKabooaIt just means we're getting Blue Mage in 5.0 and it's going to be a tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freyyy
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10-04-2017, 03:25 AMCabalabobOh, no it's technically correct. If you equip INT gear as a tank or dps your attack magic potency stat will go up. However tank spells are effected by the attack power stat, which raises with STR, not the attack magic potency stat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freyyy
The reason it's worded like that is because your attack magic potency stat goes up with MND as a healer, while it goes up with INT as a tank or dps. Hope this clears things up. -
10-04-2017, 06:29 PMFreyyyBut then it just misleads new players into thinking that they're gonna do more damage with Holy Spirit if they use INT jewelry or meld INT in their gear. There's still no point in wording it like that in the tooltips, they should just say "INT raises caster DPS classes damage".Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabalabob
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10-04-2017, 10:34 PMCabalabobAnd I agree with you like I said in my previous post, but that doesn't change the fact that that is the reason it's worded as it is right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freyyy