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    INT effecting some dark moves

    I can't check atm, but pretty sure I saw in the INT Tooltip that it effects some dark moves. Has anyone tested this and found out what it effects, if it even does?
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    Felorr Bhakti
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    The INT tooltip reads as follows:

    "Affects attack magic potency when role is Tank or DPS."

    The following DRK actions are considered "Spells" in their tooltips:
    Unleash (unaspected damage)
    Unmend (unaspected damage)
    Grit (tank stance)
    Abyssal Drain (unaspected damage)
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    Naomi Enami
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    All tank abilities scale from STR. Including those that do magic damage, and those are:

    Paladin: Holy Spirit and Flash.
    Dark Knight: Unleash, Unmend, Abyssal Drain and Dark Passenger.

    ~ Phoenica ~
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    yes they scale from STR, not from INT.

    however, they also scale with Spell Speed, not with Skill Speed, but tanks don't have Spell Speed on their gear and this makes the Skill Speed stat even worse on DRK, since it doesn't affect your aoe attacks at all.
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    Freyja Redgold
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    I think that they wrote the tooltip like this because healers magic damage now scale with MND, when it used to scale with INT as well. They should've worded it differently since tank magic damage scale with STR, only caster DPS scale with INT.
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Tooltip descriptions are kind of outdated at this point, since they removed cross class for the role system there isn't really any overlap between jobs anymore (the only exception that comes to mind being SMN's physick). So all jobs just scale off their main stat. All NIN moves are DEX based even their magical ninjutsu's, all DRK and PLD moves are STR based even their spells, all healer spells are MND based, RDM vercure is INT based. Etc.

    If physick was changed to INT on SMN basically all tooltips could be updated to just say increases effectiveness of <Job>. Except VIT which would just be increases max HP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    Tooltip descriptions are kind of outdated at this point, since they removed cross class for the role system there isn't really any overlap between jobs anymore (the only exception that comes to mind being SMN's physick). So all jobs just scale off their main stat. All NIN moves are DEX based even their magical ninjutsu's, all DRK and PLD moves are STR based even their spells, all healer spells are MND based, RDM vercure is INT based. Etc.

    If physick was changed to INT on SMN basically all tooltips could be updated to just say increases effectiveness of <Job>. Except VIT which would just be increases max HP.
    The thing is that the tooltips have all been updated with 4.0. The INT tooltip currently states that INT affects DPS and tank magic damage, but it's incorrect for the tank part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    The thing is that the tooltips have all been updated with 4.0. The INT tooltip currently states that INT affects DPS and tank magic damage, but it's incorrect for the tank part.
    Exactly and before 4.0 I've never seen INT mention any tanks or even dark specifically, which is why I asked if anyone has tested, because that seems odd to me they are mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    The thing is that the tooltips have all been updated with 4.0. The INT tooltip currently states that INT affects DPS and tank magic damage, but it's incorrect for the tank part.
    It just means we're getting Blue Mage in 5.0 and it's going to be a tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    The thing is that the tooltips have all been updated with 4.0. The INT tooltip currently states that INT affects DPS and tank magic damage, but it's incorrect for the tank part.
    Oh, no it's technically correct. If you equip INT gear as a tank or dps your attack magic potency stat will go up. However tank spells are effected by the attack power stat, which raises with STR, not the attack magic potency stat.

    The reason it's worded like that is because your attack magic potency stat goes up with MND as a healer, while it goes up with INT as a tank or dps. Hope this clears things up.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 10-04-2017 at 03:29 AM.
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    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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