Could seasonal events become a little more combat oriented/action-packed please?

Hello.

I'm just giving my feedback for future seasonal events that I was possibly wondering; could we get a little more action in them? Not necessarily Dragon Ball Z style cutscenes although that in of it's self would be awesome! But I mean more like, could we fight a boss or something in some of these seasonal events. Not a FATE boss but like something you queue for or solo instance even. Something that actually makes you feel like you're saving the holidays from certain doom rather than being a mail man delivering key items between NPCs and getting a heroic tag that way.

To name a few examples, every year when the Halloween event comes around I keep hoping that we the heros of light might have to fight that pumpkin king guy or some of his minions in like a holiday trial of sorts, but it always about baked goods. Like I get "Trick-or-treat" and all that but why can't we have that AND a trial or something. Really add some pazazz to the event!

Or even the recent anniversary event. When we unlocked the cheap dungeon I was actually hoping to get to fight some mimics and bugs (with combat skills), or fight the Queen Mimic. We didn't even fight a single opponent and I was a little bit disappointed for it. The mini-game dungeon was cool and fun so that was a nice surprise, but I think I would like event holiday trials more. Like... let us fight Santa-Mandervillie as he uses his GSM limit break of toy making upon us!

Oh and as a repeat, when I ask for more action, I DO NOT SUGGEST FATES!! Fates is the worst way to go about doing that. Avoid Fates at all costs!

Those're my two cents. What do you guys think? Do you think our seasonal events could use a little more action/combat in them?

I also like to have those kind of events. The problem come on the work vs worth. Making a trial boss or a dungeon (unless they reuse something like the Halloween event) can take a lot of months of development, and the event is time limited. Make a boss battle spending a lot of developing time which will be accessible only for a very little time does not worth it. For example, a NieR event where we have a boss battle against a Engel, Ko-Shi or Simone will have a long development, assuming modeling, animation, mechanic design, programing, etc (even if it is only a trial), and that can take time from the normal patch development, causing the lost of content on a normal patch.

I guess they need first get enough people to make a team only dedicated to events. FATEs are actually the fastest way to make fight based events, like Ligthning one, where they just reused FFXIII enemy models.

Seasonal events are meant for everyone regardless of level, so unless this instance you suggest goes into PvP mode where everyone is the same level, I don't see how this would work.

Personally I like content that is more than just fighting things, but that's just me.

Why don't people like fates? This makes no sense to me but maybe that's because I'm new? Like this Yo-Kai event is ALL fighting and since it's fates I don't need to sit in a 30+min que for a duty which is great.

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Originally Posted by Ghanbaatar

Why don't people like fates? This makes no sense to me but maybe that's because I'm new? Like this Yo-Kai event is ALL fighting and since it's fates I don't need to sit in a 30+min que for a duty which is great.

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There is very little interaction involved with FATEs, thus many find them boring. The devs also have an overreliance on them when they run out of ideas. For a new player, you likely haven't felt the burn yet but for those of us playing for several years, it stings just a little bit. I don't mind them either, though the Yo-kai event pushed it way too far.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Seasonal events are meant for everyone regardless of level, so unless this instance you suggest goes into PvP mode where everyone is the same level, I don't see how this would work.

Personally I like content that is more than just fighting things, but that's just me.

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Plenty of trials have a level sync on them. And many seasonal events have a minimal level requirement of at least 15 or 30 to access them. I figured at the very least the trials could sync us down the same way a FATE would but would be more engaging and last longer than a FATE would. I just suggest a trial over FATEs because with a massive crowd of 400+ people in one location, FATEs lag and a lot of times you can't even see or so much as hit the boss. Look at Ixion for example. Ixion lags so bad I can't even make out what his attack patterns look like, thus making gold difficult for something that shouldn't be.

I liked the Lightning Returns event where you had to defeat that metal behemoth alongside Lightning in a cool FATE. Why we don't have any more events like that?

What I'm hearing is something like a seasonal oriented FATE. Sounds great, we'll be sure to forward this directly to the dev team!

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Originally Posted by Inuk9

I liked the Lightning Returns event where you had to defeat that metal behemoth alongside Lightning in a cool FATE. Why we don't have any more events like that?

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One of the things the really sets that Lighting Returns FATEs apart for me then any other FATE is that the music is not the traditional FATE music. If they made new music to go along with that special FATE so you aren't listening to the standard theme, I could get behind that. Otherwise it would just feel like they just added on another FATE to the zone.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

One of the things the really sets that Lighting Returns FATEs apart from me then any other FATE is that the music is not the traditional FATE music. If they made new music to go along with that special FATE so you aren't listening to the standard theme, I could get behind that. Otherwise it would just feel like they just added on another FATE to the zone.

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Also, new enemies models and, of course, the Lighning model fully renderized in the FFXIV engine <3

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Originally Posted by Ghanbaatar

Why don't people like fates?

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Fighting trash mobs gets old fast. And unfortunately, most FATE bosses are just glorified trash mobs with more autoattack damage.

I'd rather have more FATEs akin to the Fox lady fate, with frequent mechanics and all. Ideally, without the boss even autoattacking, so that you aren't reliant on tanks, healers or chocobo companions.

Mini-bosses / map-bosses FATEs are my favorite type of FATEs (probably everyone else's).

-Defeating a "powerful" single target enemy is more fun than a lot of weak enemies
-Music is better
-You can practice rotations like a dummy practice.

Fair points but I think its over all good to have event stuff accessable to more players which means lower level content, by making them FATEs you can still battle stuff but not just explode it in a single hit. How would you propose to allow the bulk of the player base be able to participate in the event when it's mostly battles(or just the prime rewards are achieved this way) with out using FATEs? Making a low level dungeon would be cool I totally agree but I'm just not sure it would be cost effective? In Wildstar there was a really fun halloween dungeon that basically used a sync system as well. It was made back from when the game itself was doing better so perhaps there is precedent for SE to do the same? What if they just took say Sastasha and changed it up with holiday themes? Would that be better then FATEs and fetch quests?

Or better yet require a little more social interaction or group play? ^^ I miss those days.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Fighting trash mobs gets old fast. And unfortunately, most FATE bosses are just glorified trash mobs with more autoattack damage.

I'd rather have more FATEs akin to the Fox lady fate, with frequent mechanics and all. Ideally, without the boss even autoattacking, so that you aren't reliant on tanks, healers or chocobo companions.

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They could make the FATE boss more like the new 70 A ranks, or Odin/Ixion where mechanics are involved. Wouldn't be that hard, I'm sure. Whenever aa seasobal event comes up and it's literally just a single small quest and a few turn ins, it really seems like a poor effort. Even in WoW, you get to fight event bosses daily for chances to get cool loot like mounts, costumes, novelty items, transmogs, etc. along with several other things to do.

A seasonal dungeons omg I'd love that

They could make duties or encounters with special actions which replace the usual hotbars.

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Originally Posted by Ryaz

They could make the FATE boss more like the new 70 A ranks, or Odin/Ixion where mechanics are involved. Wouldn't be that hard, I'm sure. Whenever aa seasobal event comes up and it's literally just a single small quest and a few turn ins, it really seems like a poor effort. Even in WoW, you get to fight event bosses daily for chances to get cool loot like mounts, costumes, novelty items, transmogs, etc. along with several other things to do.

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Ya... but... its the same bosses, for the same items it has had for several years. And they only altered what they drop/you can collect. Once. Their events don't change. They have no cutscenes. They are just zerg a boss, grab some RNG loot, and try again later if you are unhappy. I prefer the small quick and never the same events per year.

I wouldn't mind a bit more. But I definitely don't want a WoW dungeon event. Not sure if I'd like a Fate system either... but whatevers. Oo

What you're asking for is a lot of development time spent in something that is temporary.
Unless it were something like PSO2 emergency quests which are "events" in the way that they are available for a limit time, and they pop up frequently - then sure..
Oh hey look, I just described FATEs.

Honestly I would rather the time spent with seasonal events be spent in improving the areas of the game that are active all the time.

I liked that Halloween dungeon they had last year for a event. Be nice if they had more of them for events.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

They could make duties or encounters with special actions which replace the usual hotbars.

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They could do this instead if the concern is the level sync (usually 15 or 30) You can have something like throwing snowballs during a Christmas event (maybe you're playing with some orphans idk). Last year's halloween event was also really fun. It doesn't HAVE to be a fight with all your usual PvE skills. Anything's better than being a glorified mail man, really.

Seasonal events are not meant to have players potentially be KO'd. While I suppose this could happen during FATEs that are involved with seasonal events, a player would deliberately have to kill himself. Yo-kai is a bit different since it has you doing normal FATEs. Though it's typically the low level ones that are zerged.

The challenge level of these things really shouldn't be much higher than a 4-piece jigsaw puzzle. I remember during the Easter even last year how frustrated some players were getting with the quest where you had to chase a giant egg through the city and interact with it while it was stopped and finish the cast before it took off again.

I loved the Halloween event in Haukke Manor. There were mobs, but you had to avoid them. Players still had to work together to pass on the clues they found to the other members. The feedback from this was nearly entirely positive. I suppose there could be some kind of boss with very simple mechanics, but still have players work together to get it done. Just nothing that would have to make them start from the very beginning, unless for some crazy reason they just can't get it done before the timer runs out.