Duty Finder Gear Checker

When entering a Dungeon/Trial/EX/Raid through DF there should be a system to check if your wearing the correct gear for your job and that ALL your pieces of gear match the minimum ILvl. This will make dungeons smoother for everyone

For example, I did a trials roulette the other day and got Chrysalis which has a average item level of 90. The MT had a ilvl 55 sword and shield. Now imagine if you had 2 tanks with ilvl 55 weapons in a trial. Yeah have fun with that /logoff.:cool:

Not sure how well that would work, some people literally don't have any better gear, this change still would not fix people going in with bad gear unless they were just really forgetful. You'd be better off changing DF to force people to meet higher iLVL requirements and make a min dmg rating on weapon requirement. From the title I thought you were going to recommend some sort of Ready Check type system but it would check to see if anyone had broken or nearly broken gear. Now that would be pretty handy for sure.

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Originally Posted by Wobi

Not sure how well that would work, some people literally don't have any better gear.

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Then they should go get better gear. As per the OP's example, there is absolutely no excuse to be doing i90 content with i55 equipment.

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

Then they should go get better gear. As per the OP's example, there is absolutely no excuse to be doing i90 content with i55 equipment.

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I want to agree with this but at the same time SE is so averse to restrictions I feel like it's a pipe dream.

I would love to never encounter a DRK using an ilvl 200 weapon in Doma Castle again though...

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Originally Posted by Wobi

Not sure how well that would work, some people literally don't have any better gear.

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Ishgard has 115 weapons for sale even if you need someone to get them for you (Not sure if Ishgard still can't be accessed until post patch story).

Even if you're a fresh player there really is no excuse to not have something to show for it by the time you reach the end of patch 2.5's storyline when the game simply gives you five pieces of item level 90 gear after the lv50 job quest. An item level 120 shield is only 120 tomes while the sword is 380 totaling a max of 500 tomes that you shouldn't only be able to easily reach prior to the Chrysalis since you're getting first time bonus all the way through, but you should literally be swimming in tomes by the time you reach that point in the story.

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Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon

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Except they are talking about DF, if the person for whatever reason didn't bother to obtain the right kinds of equips but manages meet the iLVL requirement it's just going to equip the best of what they have. Now if we were talking about instead making the DF require you properly equip your character that is another matter all together. People don't accidentally equip bad gear, they pretty much just don't know any better. I've encounter many a player that somehow even though they should have had completely free gear that would more than suffice failed to obtain it or perhaps sold it can had the absolute bare min. they could get away with, many times missing slots entirely or having Dex rings where STR goes/etc. Short of retooling the DF to be significantly stricter there is no fix for the human element.

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Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon

Ishgard has 115 weapons for sale even if you need someone to get them for you (Not sure if Ishgard still can't be accessed until post patch story).

Even if you're a fresh player there really is no excuse to not have something to show for it by the time you reach the end of patch 2.5's storyline when the game simply gives you five pieces of item level 90 gear after the lv50 job quest.

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You're forgetting something far more important. By the time you've gotten to Chrysalis, the game has already supplied you with i110 gear from MSQ rewards, including weapons. There's no reason for a tank to have anything less than full Noct gear.

Which brings us to the topic at hand: if players can't be bothered to use the gear that's basically thrown at them, no system in the world will save them.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

I would love to never encounter a DRK using an ilvl 200 weapon in Doma Castle again though...

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But you can get i270 weapons for like 700 Poe. You can buy i255 weapons anywhere. The quests leading into Doma hand out HQ weapons. There are so many options available, why are they so lazy?

Think part of the problem with DF and its minimum iLVL is you can cheese iLvl with accessories, for better for worst. Using OP's example, Tank could've met i90 requirement with a mix of i110- i120 accessories and mayybe belt, but have a i55 Sword, and well....with a i55 Sword you arent holding aggro against a Level Synched player lol.

Forcing a full iLevel check would, at least, make people who have apparently never looked at their gear rating before, to look at it.

Would have to make it where it couldn't be spoofed, as it has in the past, by wearing Crafting gear, or off-Job gear, to get past the screen...

Even if you meet the min. iLv. requirement, the game should prompt you if you have at least one gear under the required iLv. Even if you do get someone who does meet the iLv., you also have to worry about the people who don't repair their gear. That's even worse than people who have less iLv. gear since broken stuff won't give you the stats.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

I want to agree with this but at the same time SE is so averse to restrictions I feel like it's a pipe dream.

I would love to never encounter a DRK using an ilvl 200 weapon in Doma Castle again though...

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Takes 5 min to buy a weapon for 15-20k that's better, yes it nq but then again its better than the one they have. I've seen a ilvl90 sch in lvl 53 dungeon and he said he can't get better gear when vendor sells cheap gear. His reply? He doesn't have time.... Okay m8. Nearly all 70's and doesn't have time. Some people man.

I'm sorry, but what do you hope to achieve by implementing this?
This isn't going to make those players you are pointing out become magically better.

Elitists ! Whiners ! /sarcasm

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Originally Posted by NekoNova

I'm sorry, but what do you hope to achieve by implementing this?
This isn't going to make those players you are pointing out become magically better.

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Actually yes, it's directly connected. They need to worry about gearing up, they'll start paying attention. Not gonna make them pros, but it's a start towards getting better.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

I want to agree with this but at the same time SE is so averse to restrictions I feel like it's a pipe dream.

I would love to never encounter a DRK using an ilvl 200 weapon in Doma Castle again though...

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Doma Castle is a leveling dungeon and doesn't actually have an item level requirement, unlike Chrysalis.

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Originally Posted by NekoNova

I'm sorry, but what do you hope to achieve by implementing this?
This isn't going to make those players you are pointing out become magically better.

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To garner SE's attention and ask they implement something other than an overall item level requirement. At least have the main hand a respectable ilevel range as well as still meeting the average ilevel.

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Originally Posted by NekoNova

I'm sorry, but what do you hope to achieve by implementing this?
This isn't going to make those players you are pointing out become magically better.

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Bad players will be bad, but better gear will help cushion the suck a little. If you can at least force them into appropriate gear, that's one less thing you have to worry about.

I've run into multiple trolls/dumb people who were wearing only glamour gear in the leveling roulette, so I'd love if they imposed a min ilvl on all dungeons, not just the final dungeon/trial of each expansion and the content released afterward.

Until SE teaches nubs to NOT wear certain gear as I've ran into new players wearing gathering or crafting gear in dungeons and think its okay, then it wont be fixed. no where do they explain oh hey you need to upgrade that or have the right gear on for this. Also if i get one of the 3 starter dungeons for leveling roulette and i happen to have a said "glamour" outfit that gives stats and exp gain for wearing all 3 pieces i will wear the heck out of that and still do my job, because first 3 dungeons and the stats really don't matter anyway.

I don't see how this system could be a bad thing. It'll teach newbies to use proper gear for their job and forcing an ilvl check on all gear will stop newbies from using lower ilvl weapons which is the most important slot to have up to date. If you ask in /shout or novice network I'm sure someone is willing to buy or craft you some gear.

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

Bad players will be bad, but better gear will help cushion the suck a little. If you can at least force them into appropriate gear, that's one less thing you have to worry about.

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Here's a hint "Blizzard tried" to get more players into their raiding scene by introducing Looking for Raid, it failed. People who don't give a shit wont suddenly start if they are forced into doing so, they will just find the path of least resistance and keep on keeping on. SE isn't going to enforce some I level requirement like what the o.p is asking for. More players = more money, even if other players have to deal with it.

I would say for SB content there should be a ilvl check but only because stuff hits like a truck. Any ARR and even HW dungeons/trials, while it would be nice that somebody is up to parse with their gear, it isn't as crucial. Sure you might not finish the dungeon within 5 minutes but within 8, therefore I think personally it's whatever. Moment you step into siren song (or whatever that stupid dungeon is called) and you don't wear at least ilvl 260, you should remove yourself. Specially when playing tank/heals and trying to speed run it.

Had a tank in Dzemael yesterday with an empty feet slot and lv.1 accessories, would be nice if the system could at least check to make sure all slots are filled.

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Originally Posted by rjspencer4

Had a tank in Dzemael yesterday with an empty feet slot and lv.1 accessories, would be nice if the system could at least check to make sure all slots are filled.

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There are some tank pieces such as this that take up 2 gear slots (either body and head, or legs and feet) but only show 1 filled.