Exp gain question

Hi all,

I have a question that I haven't been able to find an answer to regarding leveling and exp gain.


I play FFXIV with my boyfriend, I am a DRG and he is a WM.

On our jobs we level, do duties and story quests together and we've discovered that even if we're doing the same leveling tasks together I pull ahead with exp and overtake his exp by large amounts, as a result I am leveling a lot sooner than him and We'd like to know why.

We play as a party, we both eat food (however I eat 2 at a time to get an hour buff opposed to one), We both do the same quests and don't do any exp gaining activities without eachother.

I was thinking that it might have something to do with the gods that we choose on Character Creation or our characters birth date's that might affect the rest buffs you get. I also thought it might be just because of our different jobs so we scale or gain exp at a different rate but I don't have an answer...

Any advice would be appreciated!

The most likely thing here is if you two are running roulettes. If you are there is a very good chance you are getting an Adventurer in Need bonus for being a healer as it often changes between Healer and Tank. It is almost never for DPS because there are so many.

If you have a job at 70, you get extra exp. There 'might' be exp difference between jobs, but I'm not sure.

Maybe it's your rested exp? It's the blue part of your exp bar which you gain through staying inside sanctuaries, even after logging out. Basically it gives you more exp in exchange for it.

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Originally Posted by Vrankyl

The most likely thing here is if you two are running roulettes. If you are there is a very good chance you are getting an Adventurer in Need bonus for being a healer as it often changes between Healer and Tank. It is almost never for DPS because there are so many.

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We do the roulette's together. Hmm this may be a contributing factor. However I am the DPS and I am ahead of my BF who is the healer.

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Originally Posted by Mocita

If you have a job at 70, you get extra exp. There 'might' be exp difference between jobs, but I'm not sure.

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We don't have an alt job at 70. :3 just came back to FFXIV from WoW.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

Maybe it's your rested exp? It's the blue part of your exp bar which you gain through staying inside sanctuaries, even after logging out. Basically it gives you more exp in exchange for it.

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Maybe I'll have to try and compare the rested exp. Does the amount differ for different people?

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Originally Posted by EternalAmbrosia

Maybe I'll have to try and compare the rested exp. Does the amount differ for different people?

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If you mean for different races/jobs then I don't think so. It pretty much depends on how long has someone stayed inside a sanctuary, but I believe there's a limit to how much you can get. Not sure what factors the limit however.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

If you mean for different races/jobs then I don't think so. It pretty much depends on how long has someone stayed inside a sanctuary, but I believe there's a limit to how much you can get. Not sure what factors the limit however.

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Hmm, thinking about it like that, I believe I may stay in a sanctuary a little longer than he would but the gaps are near or over 1mill in exp. That's a big gap for rest exp I think?

My bf suggested that it might be the rest exp I'd get 50% exp from killing mobs where as a healer he might not?

It may actually be the bonus exp from rested exp. I often burn the rested exp on gathering/trading jobs. You get like... 50% more exp? But it only applies to mob kills not quest completions or whatever. I dunno if that's the biggest factor though because I remember chiming in on exp amount and i was sitting at 6mil where she was at 7mil. still. maybe we're killing a lot more mobs than I realize... so maybe it IS rested exp.

^ The Boyfriend

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Originally Posted by itsjustgent

It may actually be the bonus exp from rested exp. I often burn the rested exp on gathering/trading jobs.

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Yeah, it's likely the rested exp if that's the case.

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Originally Posted by itsjustgent

It may actually be the bonus exp from rested exp. I often burn the rested exp on gathering/trading jobs. You get like... 50% more exp? But it only applies to mob kills not quest completions or whatever. I dunno if that's the biggest factor though because I remember chiming in on exp amount and i was sitting at 6mil where she was at 7mil. still. maybe we're killing a lot more mobs than I realize... so maybe it IS rested exp.

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Then that's probably your reason. I imagine you do or at least have done quite a number of dungeons together. Next time you do a dungeon close to your level, take a look at the exp gains from mob kills. While in the open world you get this tiny fraction of exp from mob kills While in dungeons, however, you get a huge chunk per mob in comparison. So, exp gain from dungeons is (aside from daily roulettes) entirely from mob kills and is greatly increased when you have rested exp.

This also begs the question of if you, the healer, are also dpsing mobs during healing downtime. If you don't at least tag a mob (even in a dungeon) as a healer, do you get exp for the kill? I don't heal, but that might be something you should check on to make sure you're not missing out.

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Originally Posted by Vandril

This also begs the question of if you, the healer, are also dpsing mobs during healing downtime. If you don't at least tag a mob (even in a dungeon) as a healer, do you get exp for the kill? I don't heal, but that might be something you should check on to make sure you're not missing out.

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In dungeons, you don't need to DPS at all to gain EXP. If you're partied, the party needs to tag to gain credit (like quests). It's only special open world mobs, like hunts and FATEs, where tagging is highly suggested as a healer. You can gain credit from just healing, but tagging completely ensures it (as members that become greyed out or untarget-able don't contribute toward the healer's credit if they only heal).

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If you have a job at 70, you get extra exp. There 'might' be exp difference between jobs, but I'm not sure.

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To be more specific, the bonus comes from being on a combat class that is not your highest one. If you are under 60, the bonus is 100%; if you are 60+, the bonus is 50%.

It's not specifically from having one combat class at 70.

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Originally Posted by EternalAmbrosia

We don't have an alt job at 70. :3 just came back to FFXIV from WoW.

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You don't need a job at 70. You get the armoury exp bonus on any job that is lower level than your highest level job.

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

You don't need a job at 70. You get the armoury exp bonus on any job that is lower level than your highest level job.

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Bear in mind, this is your highest level COMBAT job. Crafting and Gathering jobs do not provide the armory bonus.

The next time you party with your boyfriend, take a look at your exp bars. If the portion of the bar indicating to-next-level is BLUE, that means you still have rested exp remaining. If you've got a lot of blue left in your bar, and your boyfriend has hardly any, that might explain why you're leveling much faster.

Additionally: Rested exp is great. Be sure that both you and your boyfriend ALWAYS log off for the day in a Sanctuary. You can tell you're in a Sanctuary by the little moon symbol by your exp bar. Sanctuaries exist in any town that has a large Aethercite - so any teleport destination. Residential housing districts are also Sanctuaries. Basically, teleport ANYWHERE, and it will put you in a Sanctuary.

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Originally Posted by Mocita

If you have a job at 70, you get extra exp. There 'might' be exp difference between jobs, but I'm not sure.

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It don't need a job at 70 for the exp bonus, just another job higher than the current job.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

In dungeons, you don't need to DPS at all to gain EXP. If you're partied, the party needs to tag to gain credit (like quests). It's only special open world mobs, like hunts and FATEs, where tagging is highly suggested as a healer. You can gain credit from just healing, but tagging completely ensures it (as members that become greyed out or untarget-able don't contribute toward the healer's credit if they only heal).

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Oh, interesting. Thanks for letting me know.

My wife and me had the same ''probleme'' she was lv 50 while i was 45... I never logged out in sanctuary before I realize it was giving me rested exp. I wasn't paying attention to that. I think the bonus exp from rested exp is 100% more exp. Now I log out in sanctuaries. Sure if you spent your rested exp in other class it mean you'll get less from your main class. hope I helped

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Originally Posted by Vandril

If you don't at least tag a mob (even in a dungeon) as a healer, do you get exp for the kill?

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If you're not on the mob's hate table, you don't get xp when it dies.

Rested EXP, food exp, challenge log (if you did them at different times), or All of the Above.

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Originally Posted by Pells

If you're not on the mob's hate table, you don't get xp when it dies.

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Not that I'm advocating for a healer to not DPS but trust me healing gets you on that table.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

Not that I'm advocating for a healer to not DPS but trust me healing gets you on that table.

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In dungeons. In the overworld a healer/dps duo most likely has the dps one or two-shotting mobs before any healing is required. I've had trouble in fates trying to hard-cast damage spells before mobs die.