Suggestion - PVP Naadam Matches

Naadam would make a great pvp mode, and It would consist of random small teams competing together to be the strongest in the steppe, and an extra solo mode might also be possible to offer an enhanced difficulty. Now how would that work in the lore exactly? The Naadam is sacred, and only happens once a year. Well, why not train for it? Each match could be described as a training match for the sacred ceremony, and not the ceremony itself. The steppe warriors obviously don't just go marching in, they have to practice for it. I see no reason why there wouldn't be training exercises. It could also open the possibility for new rewards, including titles, and glamour.

You know, I truly hope the Naadam that we played story-wise is some kind of teaser for an actual Nadaam pvp arena. I'm sure with the proper tweaks, this would be a very fun addition.

This idea would have my full support, I would love this.

I also think this could seriously make pvp more popular than it is. A lot of people were taking about how much they loved the Naadam, and wanted to go back to redo that part of the story again. With a pvp version of it, we could do it all the time. It also wouldn't get as boring. Playing against players would make matches way more interesting than just repeating the same story instance when you feel like it.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e/frontline/3/

The PvP version of the Naadam, LONG before the Naadam was even a thing.

I'd like to also point out that all those PvE skills you have in the Naadam? You had them back when this was new and current, but people shunned and avoided PvP, and claimed it had "too many buttons".

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e/frontline/3/

The PvP version of the Naadam, LONG before the Naadam was even a thing.

I'd like to also point out that all those PvE skills you have in the Naadam? You had them back when this was new and current, but people shunned and avoided PvP, and claimed it had "too many buttons".

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While I see the similarities, it's not the Naadam. In the Naadam you're competing for one section of soil. You also don't start closer to the objective, so you have to fight people along the way. Everyone would begin on the outside of the map.

So Seal Rock. (Having only one singular node that ends the match there and then would be too silly for real PvP I think). I wouldn't mind a reskin of that with the steppes though just because it'll be pretty.

Then please look into "The Borderland Ruins (Secure)".

What you're asking for has been there all along, but no one even wanted to TRY it.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Then please look into "The Borderland Ruins (Secure)".

What you're asking for has been there all along, but no one even wanted to TRY it.

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Im sorry, but I disagree with you. Were just going to have to accept that we're not going to have the same stance on this.

That's fine if you disagree. Fact is, the moment I was participating in the Naadam in the story, I felt like I was back in Seal Rock, and that's why I really liked the Naadam too. It's the EXACT same premise, different visuals, and based in the story. Used the same skills from PvE that people claimed were "too much" or "too many" for PvP, and required you to interact with a fixed location to score. Getting attacked would interrupt you or anyone interacting with it. . . That's honestly Seal Rock (Seize), man.

We've had the raw basic design for the Naadam forever and people were too busy scoffing at and avoiding it.

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

That's fine if you disagree. Fact is, the moment I was participating in the Naadam in the story, I felt like I was back in Seal Rock, and that's why I really liked the Naadam too. It's the EXACT same premise, different visuals, and based in the story. Used the same skills from PvE that people claimed were "too much" or "too many" for PvP, and required you to interact with a fixed location to score. Getting attacked would interrupt you or anyone interacting with it. . . That's honestly Seal Rock (Seize), man.

We've had the raw basic design for the Naadam forever and people were too busy scoffing at and avoiding it.

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That's the key difference here. Raw design. The reason not everyone liked the old version is because it wasn't up to its full potential.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

That's the key difference here. Raw design. The reason not everyone liked the old version is because it wasn't up to its full potential.

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How? Mechanics wise, only difference between Seal Rock and Nadaam is number of nodes.
As for reskinning, I agree Seize need different playing fields randomized instead of just random nodes, so people don't get stuck with just 1 strategy.

The in-story Naadam was pretty fun, so I'd definitely be up to try a PvP mode. No GCs involved at all, and no alliances. Make it a free-for-all with between three and nine eight-man parties (i.e 24 to 72, the same min/max as Frontlines) all competing for the center. Teams start off a ways from the center and have to run there like in the story version, and there would be some strategy in whether you want to make an all-out break for it and try to end things quickly, or hang back and let the other teams tire themselves out before swooping in to pick them off (If I had my way there would be no respawning at all, or at least a longer wait for it).

If they wanted to get fancy there could be mode-specific abilities or item spawns that you could use to send an enemy back to their spawn point, or punt them to a random corner of the map, since with small teams being even one man down could be serious.

Please read the link I provided for Seal Rock Seize.

Even if they halved the number of fixed nodes (of which the grade and location activation are randomized), and added the Temple Knights, the Doman Liberation Front, the Ala Mihgan Resistance, Sekisegumi, the Confederacy, and the Garlean Empire along with the 3 GCs (an 8 man party for each still adding up to 72) it's still. Basically. Seal. Rock.

I can't stress it enough: The Naadam is a single objective, PvE version of Seal Rock on a different map.