Please add traps to ALL dungeons, singular or roulette.

Dear FFXIV Developers, I would like to humbly request that the random act of traps found in the "Deep Dungeon" game play, be added to each and every dungeon currently available and in any and all future patches. For far too long we've been running roulette Duty Finders and experiencing the very same thing each time.

I am here to propose that traps, anything found in the current "Deep Dungeon" game play that does NOT require Pomanders to remedy, be added to our everyday dungeon experience. I would honestly appreciate this randomization as it would break up the monotony that "dungeon runs" have become.

Please include this for first time runs as well as the dungeon roulette we have all seen a thousand times. We need them to have random events. All of them. Please mix it up and excite us. Traps from Deep Dungeon are just an idea but they already exist and would make a WONDERFUL addition to what some of us have been playing for 4 years now.

I'm against this idea.

Yes it may fresh up the dungeons, but not for long, after this all people are just annoyed by this new mandatory feature.

Your idea may be in good intentions but for long this is only a instrument to prevent, punish or increase risk on big pulling, nothing more.
And anyone knows how boring a dungeon is when mobs are pulled in single packs.

Dungeons are not here for the challenge or the fresh experience, they are tomestone distributer made for the daily chore.
We would have gotten mazelike dungeons or dungeons with dead ends, alternative ways and optional goals or big dungeons a long time before if they weren't just here to be completed and distributing us their tomestones.
But all we are getting is multiple packs > Boss > multiple packs > Boss > multiple packs > Boss > End of dungeon and all it took are 10 to 20 minutes of your life.

Additional random annoyance? Thank you, but no thank you. Random traps are among the top reasons why I won't touch PotD with a long stick.

Outside of PotD (with all the items/countermeasures like Rage/witching, scaling of max-pots and rezzing options) this would only be a wipe fest.

A silence trap on healer is like 1000x more dangerous in a dungeon than in PotD. And way less fun.

They should rather do more special traps, like the rooling stones in Bardams Mettle or maybe something similar to A10 buttons (maybe with a way to use it offensive on a huge def. mob).

I think that's what drove me to spark this conversation... the tome treadmill. It's not fun anymore. People run dungeons half asleep, get agitated because "it's a time sink", get upset that we "have" to run them for tomes to get gear that will let us get better tomes for better gear... It's too late to restructure the designs but something to break up the monotony would be refreshing. Neophyte mentions above that perhaps POTD-style traps wouldn't be the best answer, but perhaps there could be other ways or mechanics that already exist that would change the way we play/grind. Maybe adding randomization to boss attacks instead of seeing the same thing every time. I don't know. I guess that's why these forums are here.

Personally I think the tome grind needs to change. Dungeons play a big role in that and our list just keeps growing but I would like to see something different or random happen each time I run it.

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Originally Posted by VinKin

Dear FFXIV Developers, I would like to humbly request that the random act of traps found in the "Deep Dungeon" game play, be added to each and .

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no thank u this will just slow down the speed runs

Stone Vigil HM had a boss with "random" mechanics. it ended up being like every other dungeon once you recognized all the tells.

I do agree that the tome grind in dungeons can get very tedious. Some form of randomness or extra mechanics might make the grind less dull but the added features should be fun. IMHO traps are mostly just annoying. Maybe some dungeon-specifc random buffs? Perhaps something like shapeshifting and getting new powers appropriate to the new form? I don't know, I'm not a game designer :)

Dungeons are meant to be kind of like, learning content I guess? It's something you can do in a group where at least a couple people need to pay attention to get the win. They're not intended to be punishing. I wouldn't mind traps too much, but a gimmick like that wouldn't sit well with most players, and in the end the playerbase would just adopt strategies for handling them. They'd get old fast, and the only reason they make POTD exciting, is because POTD is a raw time investment and they can make your investment worthless.

My suggestion is, get some friends together and have some fun with dungeons by using unconventional setups. Like run an expert with all DPS.

I'm not sure if I'd like traps specifically but some kind of randomness to help alleviate the monotony of fighting a fight you have to do hundreds of times that's the exact same every time

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Originally Posted by VinKin

... It's too late to restructure the designs but something to break up the monotony would be refreshing... Dungeons play a big role in that and our list just keeps growing

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I'd take these as the two key points, in that they really need to come up with ways of utilitising the dozens of existing dungeons, primals, etc. that we already have, but that see very little use outside of over-geared XP or glamour runs.

Two ideas would be:
Min iLvl roulette - similar rewards to 'expert', but can be any dungeon at min iLvl.
Min iLvl challenge - 10 dungeons and 2 normal trials are picked per month, clearing each at min iLvl gives tomestones, clearing all gives a piece of gear.

A bit more complicated, but an idea for old raids and ex-primals (outside of a roulette) could be:
Help a newbie - Twice per week, clearing any of the old raids or ex-primals, while synced, with a new player, gives an extra bonus for all players. The more new players the bigger the bonus.

No way. People run right over these even when they're big and glowing on the floor in PotD. I can only imagine the wipefests if they remained hidden.