suggestion: extreme primal drop items

Lately, I've come to face a problem while crafting a few new items for my house: I find it nearly impossible to get my hands on some of the extreme primal drop items, such as Fiend Sap, Expanse Baleen, etc. - the reason being simply, that they are not items from the chest but boss drops. It is easy enough to find an unsynched party to farm mounts, but chances are pretty low to find anyone willing to do a synched party for a low chance drop (unless you get some FC members drunk and farm it for the FCs house or something ;P .... ) and let's be honest, the only ppl in DF are those looking for a first kill, more often than not without a clue regarding any kind of strat.

Which brings me to my suggestion: could you not add those items to Bertana's selection of Uncanny Knickknacks in exchange for some of those Totems?

at some point the devs will prob change Biz/Rav/Seph crafting drops to be in the chest. those are the only 3 that have this issue, right?

I like to see them allow them to be bought with the tome as well. 15 tomes for nq 40 for hq.

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Originally Posted by Hellstorm

I like to see them allow them to be bought with the tome as well. 15 tomes for nq 40 for hq.

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They can't be high quality, as the items they make are furniture and barding.

let's hope so. a single fiend sap goes between 20 and 30mil on my server

I'd rather see them still remain as they are. Harder items to get means higher price which means a low supply but high demand. So it's great for the MB. I know of some FC's which farm for these items just to make items / sell on the MB to pay for things for FC members or upgrading houses.

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Originally Posted by Hellstorm

I like to see them allow them to be bought with the tome as well. 15 tomes for nq 40 for hq.

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Having them available for such a low price would immediately negate any value these items have. Most of them can only be used to craft two or three items (a barding, a weapon, and some type of furnishing usually), cosmetic items at that, so it's okay if they remain hard to get. It should be the same method of drop across all primals though; that is, all of them should be dropped in the chest.

Please SE. Crash these markets. Let us farm these in bird farms and WT. Surely you couldn't have intended to create pocket markets for these items to be inflated to 5-15 million gil over what their HW value used to be...

Housing and glamour are pretty much the only money sinks in this game, so not everything from them should be cheap and easily obtainable - it's not good to let players just hang onto their money with nothing to spend it on. The items are much more expensive than they were in HW because nobody is running that content anymore. That's normal. They can adjust the rate at which they drop without making them ridiculously easy to obtain.

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Originally Posted by Elamys

Housing and glamour are pretty much the only money sinks in this game, so not everything from them should be cheap and easily obtainable - it's not good to let players just hang onto their money with nothing to spend it on. The items are much more expensive than they were in HW because nobody is running that content anymore. That's normal. They can adjust the rate at which they drop without making them ridiculously easy to obtain.

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Money sink is when money goes out of circulation. Giving your money to another player does not remove gil. Buying a house removes gil. I would sooner trade with the 1mil gil cap to get a lower price than give it to the MB for large purchases.


The items are much more expensive because NOBODY WANTS TO DO SYNCED content. People still bird farm ALL the time, but because everyone does it unsynced, no drops get added to the market. You can't get the item because it's considered a monster drop. You can't get monster drops in unsynced.

This is a broken system. They need to allow unsync farms to drop the crafter mats.

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Originally Posted by Elamys

Having them available for such a low price would immediately negate any value these items have.

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Yeah, tomes is probly a bit much. But if i could trade in 20-25 Ravana Totems for the forewing, and 40-50 for the hive forewing that seems more fair. And more things to do with the totems would be nice too.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing a totem exchange for them. That amount of poetics though was a little much lol.

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Originally Posted by Rawrz

This is a broken system. They need to allow unsync farms to drop the crafter mats.

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That's what we're saying. I just don't think it should be purchasable for 15 poetics like the other crafting mats.

Same happened at HW start for ARR Ex primals.Most likely will get added to chest during 4.1 after most people got their birds in order keep it relevant as small incentive.Though yeah a token exchange would work good.

I do think that the 3.0 items should be moved to chests like the 2.0 at this point or at least buff the drop rates. I remember when kingly whiskers were 5 mil plus until they fixed it. Though now that most housing items are not destroyed when they are removed I do see the point to keeping them a little rarer to avoid flooding the market. One good relic quest again like anima did with inferno horns, large levin orbs, etc will dry up the market again though for a while even if they did over do it.

I'm not sure why they moved the Wind up Bismark to the Expanse baleen when every other primal crafted used the item of its name. Ex. Garuda Feather - Wind Up Garuda. It was just dumb. I don't mind that the harder to get item went to weapons and higher level furnishings, but ....the Expanse Baleen already had a value, most people didn't care about the Bismark one, or Ravana's Forewing.

Anyways, I don't mind if it's with tokens but they do need to do something about the HW drop rates for primals Nidhogg scale is the worst offender since it needs 3 to make the barding.

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Gordon gears also have this problem

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:D <3 Thank you SE!