Any tip for ninja in 4v4

Hello mates!

I just started to queue in ranked Feast. I'm stuck in bronze and i have no way to leave it.
I play my favourite class ninja but i'm losing so many games (atm 30% win). I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I noticed my team mates doing huge mistakes like bad positioning or tank playing like a dps but I can't tell them because of the chat restriction (which is so stupid btw).

It's pretty much impossible to carry a team by my own but I'm here to ask any tips or advices that can help me to maximize my win chance.

Thank you all and have fun :)

You could try winning more than 30% of your games

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Originally Posted by Takatsuki

You could try winning more than 30% of your games

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I'm asking for help to win more than 30% of my games :)

Any other serious answer please?

The guy is just asking for help lol. Any good ninja help him out.

The only melee job I'm playing is drg(still practicing)so can't help you with nin

But generally,
-Manage burst, use the few most damaged skills within one gcd+cast time
-Notify your ranged dps when your LB ready/you going to use LB on target
-Use LB when it's a guarantee kill(below 80%hp ranged with no barriers like blackest night/whm sch barrier/cover etc; over stacked people, calculate it the vulnerability bonus will kill him)
-Mark/follow the mark to avoid splited damage
-Hit the kits/WH for healer
-Fall back as soon as your healer dies
-Make the right decisions (focus over stacked people at right time, like don't kill the 10stack tank at 4 min and make your team over stack; focus/cc the dps/tank peel for healer; focus ranged/over stacked people for wins in last 2min etc)

I don't think melee still has that high solo carry ability as 3.0 Pvp, but 30%wr is way too low
Waiting for good nin players' tips maybe(but actually you can figure every jobs out by just reading skill descriptions with like 5 games for practice lol, only 9 buttons anyway)

Hi, I started playing FFXIV with the new Stormblood expansion so take my advice with a grain of salt since I don't have much experience under my belt.

What I do have is a pretty decent win rate atm, I have been spamming out ranked games for the last 2 days and am currently at 753 rating with a 62.9% win rate.

Here are some things that may help you:

• You should be taking both the attack/defense buffs. (At least that's how it works for my Data Center - people seem to play different on the other Data Centers)
• Start off with a Shadow Fang debuff on your target as that'll help you nuke your opponent down when you use your burst combo.
• Use your burst combo wisely, when they are fairly low on hp. (eg. Aeolian > Bhavacakra > Assassinate)
• If you are targetting a healer - you should throw in your Jugulate <65% then use your burst combo.
• Pay attention to buffs/debuffs and split medals evenly between your team.
• Look at the Enemy team's makeup and tweak your traits to suit.
• Make some Shukuchi macros to help you close in on your target or 'NOPE' it back to your healer. (I'll paste the ones I use at the bottom)
• As a melee, it is really helpful to mark and announce who you are focusing - you'll want to jump from target to target at times and this really helps your dps counterpart focus fire.
• Use Katon to apply heavy on kiting targets or those pesky monks/tanks to help relieve the pressure on your healer.
• Don't over-extend too much and attack Adrenaline/Wolf crates when they are up.
• Pay attention to your Range DPS's nukes (Animation/Sound) and line them up with your own burst combo.

Macros:

• This jumps to your selected target
• /micon Shukuchi
• /merror off
• /pvpac Shukuchi <t>

• This jumps back to your healer
• /micon Shukuchi
• /merror off
• /pvpac Shukuchi <3>

If there is anything that isn't good advice, feel free to correct me. Also open to advice myself as I'm aiming for top 100 (Really want that armour set.)

Thank you so much guys.
Indeed i need to pay attention before using LB I failed it almost everytime I use it to finish my target. I'm gonna add the Quick Chat about Full Adrenaline to infor my mates so the ranged dps can assist me and tank can CC the healer.
I already use the macro Target Shukuchi macro but not the healer one.Thank you Fish.

Also, I think the Developers should remove the chat restriction so we can write to teamates. All useful instructions aren't in the Quick Chat. They should also a premade queue to play with friends.

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Originally Posted by Takatsuki

You could try winning more than 30% of your games

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You could try not posting anything else, ever.

Most important thing for any dps player is to practice a burst combo. Burst is extremely important, you absolutely need it to reliably knock a target out. Just practice until you can fire off as much damage as possible in the shortest timeframe. Fishingsloth's advice is good.

I could, but where's the fun in that?

Literally just need to build your bar high enough that you can Bhavakrararka and Jutsu right after while hitting Aeloian Edge and all your other OGCD.

That's it.

Just make sure your other DPS and you focus down the same target.

You can also try not being toxic and/or dcing every 3rd game, god bless brotha

Hi guys. I followed all the advice and couldn't do better than this:

http://imgur.com/Vk1es9Y
-My damage is always the lowest, sometime equal to tanks damage and sometime a bit less.I'm destroying my fingers on my keyboard but I still deal low damage.

- I tried to use Bhavacakra as a normal damage spell and I tried to keep it as a finisher combined with Assassinate. No real threat and if the combo doesn't kill my target I wait for it long cooldown.

-I use all Quick chat to communicate with my team let them know what I'm doing but still my mates do huge mistakes and can't do shit about it:tank overstack medals or don't sit on the enemy healer, my healer forget he is playing healer and don't heal, my dps mate don't follow the calls...

-I loose against every Dragoon team even if he is the target we can't make him low hp. I tried to go on his ranged dps mate but the Dragoon can solo anyone?

-I use Katon/Hyoton to CC enemy tank or enemy melee dps.

- I keep Shadow Fang up on my target

-I up my Ninki on Defensive and Offensive supplies to be able to stealth at the beginning of the game to open with Assassinate and dot my target.
I feel I'm doing my best and can't do more.

I'm thinking to switch to Dragoon because it seems to be an easy win class in low rank and switch back to Ninja when I reach Plat.

Waiting for your feed back.

Thank you :)

Hmm, I'm still doing fairly decent since I last posted here. Now at 55.9% WR 80/143, 1308 rating~

I bind keys to select the healer and focused target (usually ranged) now which helps a lot when switching targets.

Paying attention to defensive buffs is a big thing imo - whenever I switch targets, I always place a #1 marking on their head and also send "Attack Target" twice.

Defensive buffs to look out for
https://i.imgur.com/LZeWs6C.png

About teammates, you should worry less about how they play and focus on what could you have done better. There will always be those bad eggs and often times, they will be on the other team instead with the probability more skewed to them being on the other side if you are playing well and doing everything right.

Good luck and keep at the climb~ Rating loss isn't that much early on so it is more of a grind than high winrate, it should go up even if you were to keep stagnant at a 40% winrate.

Thank you so much Fish i was looking for a list of buffs. I'm gonna make it my wallpaper haha And your macro Shukuchi on healer saved my ass so much

I think my biggest problem is my damage: I screenshotted my very last game, look at the scoreboard http://imgur.com/vRBXf9w I mean dude I know this is not PVE but i dealt less damage than my tank. I died twice but I wasn't even the main target: I died the first minute because they chained cc my healer and the second time on Dragoon LB. For the most part my healer was the main target.
So I don't know if overall Ninja's damage is low because it has nice finisher or I'm just bad (like would say Takatsuki-sensei :( )

I wouldnt say jack if you wouldnt be spamming "well played!" and "good game" everytime someone in your team dies,
I wont even mention how you intentionally dc once you deem a game unwinable. god bless

I've never DC lol i just give up when enemy team has 500 medals and mine 200 at 1 min from the end. I always try to keep playing but when your team is getting completly destroyed because shit happens and team mates doing wrong stuff (this is why I posted here, I wish to learn how to carry solo) there is no way I keep exhausting my fingers and my brain. In 122 games played I've never came back from a 500/200 even when I tried.

I posted i was 30% win rate now i'm 40% so I'm progressing well :)

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Originally Posted by Bunga

I've never DC lol i just give up when enemy team has 500 medals and mine 200 at 1 min from the end. I always try to keep playing but when your team is getting completly destroyed because shit happens and team mates doing wrong stuff (this is why I posted here, I wish to learn how to carry solo) there is no way I keep exhausting my fingers and my brain. In 122 games played I've never came back from a 500/200 even when I tried.

I posted i was 30% win rate now i'm 40% so I'm progressing well :)

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1 min is A LOT of time, enough to win. Remember that if the enemy has more medals, maybe some of them has a vulnerability and you can deal more damage to them.
Never give up a match, at least for respect.

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Originally Posted by ChocoFeru

1 min is A LOT of time, enough to win. Remember that if the enemy has more medals, maybe some of them has a vulnerability and you can deal more damage to them.
Never give up a match, at least for respect.

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Yes I didn't give up my last 10+ games (since yesterday). It didn't change anything to be honest we lost anyway. I'm still trying to learn my class tho. http://imgur.com/t2BGS45 In this game the enemy ninja was the main target and still outdamaged me haha

(btw I'm not showing the screenshots to QQ just to show my performances :p )

I can deal up to 220k+ damage by going on "mad dog" mode
On ps4 you can lock a target. Once it is locked i Just Press move forward and ill always stick to it. So i Just spam all my combo.

But if my healer dont follow me, ill die for sure xD

On pc we can also lock target but it's kinda risky if you want to run away

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Originally Posted by Bunga

On pc we can also lock target but it's kinda risky if you want to run away

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You cannot really run away to on ps4. Need to unlock, shukichi and run for you life if you have no support.
But it is useful to harash healer (can sometimes solo kill à careless healer) or à 4stack tank