Regarding Ixion Horn Drop Changes

Can we talk about the change that was made for Ixion horn drop rate?

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Gold: 2 horns / Silver: 1 horn --> Gold: 6 horns / Silver: 3 horns

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I think we can all agree camping Ixion is a pain but this change seemed pretty drastic especially so early in the expansion. This change effectively devalues the mount entirely because you can easily get the mount in a single day after a maintenance reset due to the 3 instances still being up.

Unlike the other new mounts added in SB, this was one of the only ones that weren't reliant on RNG and you could get from enough dedication. It's really disappointing that something so unique was devalued just because people can't be patient.

It only takes one Odin or Behemoth to get any of their prizes.
One CoeurlRegina chain too, IIRC.
One Foxy Lady (If it ever spawns) for those rewards as well.

Ixion was the only one that took that many encounters.

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Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour

One CoeurlRegina chain too, IIRC.

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Needs two. You get 5 per kill at Gold(or at least I did), and the items cost 6 each. So need 3 kills to get both fedora and jacket.

I would say Ixion is RNG. You never know when it will pop, I could camp all day and go to bed to have it pop 5 minutes later. Either way this sounds more like a "People will have what I have, I don't want them to have it!"

Ixion isn't even that rare. There are a bunch of people who have it on Zalera pre-nerf. I myself am 1 victory away from the mount. It's not a big deal.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

I would say Ixion is RNG. You never know when it will pop, I could camp all day and go to bed to have it pop 5 minutes later. Either way this sounds more like a "People will have what I have, I don't want them to have it!"

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Or have an entire instance filled because it's supposedly going to "force spawn" for three hours waiting(was supposed to be an hour tops for the spawn...good thing I had stuff I needed to gather in there while waiting).

Edit: Oh, and it never did spawn that night

I've got the mount, I'm happy they're making it less painful for people who don't have it yet.

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Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour

It only takes one Odin or Behemoth to get any of their prizes.
One CoeurlRegina chain too, IIRC.
One Foxy Lady (If it ever spawns) for those rewards as well.

Ixion was the only one that took that many encounters.

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2 of those are old content, which is why I was saying doing this so early in the expansion makes no sense. It would have been fine if they made this change later to allow players to get it if it were less camped by then. In addition, mounts are a more sought after thing in modern MMOs and often have a prestige associated with them.

Ixion, while many argue is not the most good looking mount it is very unique in comparison to the other available mounts. It only made sense that it should take you time and dedication to obtain.

Meh. Let 'em have their overgrown goat mount. If it means paving the way to a instance-free zone then I'm fine with it.

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Originally Posted by BassGhost

2 of those are old content, which is why I was saying doing this so early in the expansion makes no sense. It would have been fine if they made this change later to allow players to get it if it were less camped by then. In addition, mounts are a more sought after thing in modern MMOs and often have a prestige associated with them.

Ixion, while many argue is not the most good looking mount it is very unique in comparison to the other available mounts. It only made sense that it should take you time and dedication to obtain.

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That time and dedication is still there having to sit there and wait for the thing to spawn, or being on at the right time and being able to get to it if not in the zone in time. With the change chances are more people will now be willing to gun for it.

The reason for the change is so that Lochs gets less stressed whenever Ixion pops up. If more people get the mount faster, less people will overcrowd the instance when he pops the next time. It has very little (if anything) to do with the rarity of the mount.

Every thing in this game is devalued. Literally everything. If you really think about it, your exactly in the same spot as you were in 2.0. Nothing and I mean nothing has value. The entire game is a rewrite on repeat with reskins followed by nerfs.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

Needs two. You get 5 per kill at Gold(or at least I did), and the items cost 6 each. So need 3 kills to get both fedora and jacket.

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Looking back at it, it's one chain and one phase 2 if you want both items, so I'll grant there's a bit more there.

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Originally Posted by BassGhost

2 of those are old content, which is why I was saying doing this so early in the expansion makes no sense. It would have been fine if they made this change later to allow players to get it if it were less camped by then.

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Odin and Behemoth have been 5 tokens per gold from the start, IIRC.

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Originally Posted by BassGhost

...devalues the mount entirely...

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As if it had any value in the first place. AFKing is hardcore stuff apparently.

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Originally Posted by Beckett

The reason for the change is so that Lochs gets less stressed whenever Ixion pops up. If more people get the mount faster, less people will overcrowd the instance when he pops the next time. It has very little (if anything) to do with the rarity of the mount.

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I saw a lot of people talking about how the zone was stressed in the patch notes thread and how this would help. There are 3 instances first off, they are rarely at full or near max capacity unless Ixion is alive at that time. Even if one instance is filled there is still 2 others that someone can use if they have no interest in Ixion. I really don't see why anything would need to be done further at this point.

The only thing is, with the rewards so plentiful, this special ixion fate will die out just like odin and behemoth in a few weeks.

I might actually try for this mount now, because the only time I tried was when everybody was claiming it was going to spawn within 5 hours so the entire server packed into The Lochs only to find out their math was off and it wouldn't spawn until the next day. I noped out of Ixion after that, no way was I going to try to do that 6 times to MAYBE get enough horns for him.

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Originally Posted by BassGhost

2 of those are old content, which is why I was saying doing this so early in the expansion makes no sense. It would have been fine if they made this change later to allow players to get it if it were less camped by then. In addition, mounts are a more sought after thing in modern MMOs and often have a prestige associated with them.

Ixion, while many argue is not the most good looking mount it is very unique in comparison to the other available mounts. It only made sense that it should take you time and dedication to obtain.

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Should been done sooner, it kept crashing the zone. As I said in a different thread, If you look at the big picture and long run, the change does not make it anymore common or rarer prenerf other then make it less annoying and attempt to have the zone not to crash from making the demand less.

I got 10 horns so far. Just one more then.

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Originally Posted by xaventh

Every thing in this game is devalued. Literally everything. If you really think about it, your exactly in the same spot as you were in 2.0. Nothing and I mean nothing has value. The entire game is a rewrite on repeat with reskins followed by nerfs.

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We are playing in a virtual world made of pixels and dream stuff. It had no value to begin with, other than what sentimental worth we assign to it ourselves.

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Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

The only thing is, with the rewards so plentiful, this special ixion fate will die out just like odin and behemoth in a few weeks.

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If people call out Odin/Behemoth there is still a good showing for them. It's just a matter of people actually voicing that they are alive, and where they are.

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Originally Posted by Avatre

If people call out Odin/Behemoth there is still a good showing for them. It's just a matter of people actually voicing that they are alive, and where they are.

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I've been trying to get invited to some kind of linkshell for this very purpose, but no luck so far. :( I still need Odin and Behemoth, and now Ixion..............

Good change. no one should wait hours upon hours
on a silly looking mount that's basically a recolour of ponies...congestion an entire area and causing crashes.
they should split where he spawns too.

To anyone who's been in The Lochs trying to gather or finish quests when the entire server decides to bombard that instance because "OMG the ugly horse fate is up", this is a good thing.

That mount is so lame looking. I want it nerfed back so I don't have to see it more now.

I'm sorry, but I cannot associate "prestige" with obsessively farming and camping 3 days for a mount. I think "Wow that person is obsessed with being first. Good for them!" when I saw Ixion for the first time 2 weeks after Stormblood launched.
This change is good so you only have to catch Ixion 2-4 times in order to get the mount. I kinda wish they gave 1 horn for bronze though.

I'm not going to lie i'm a bit salty about this. I spent a long time trying to get this mount. Should have just waited and not wasted my time...

Already got the mount. Happy to see it's much easier to get now. Doesn't devalue my Ixion whatsoever nor the time I put into getting it.

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Originally Posted by ElazulHP

I'm not going to lie i'm a bit salty about this. I spent a long time trying to get this mount. Should have just waited and not wasted my time...

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Did you do the HW relics before the nerfs to each step? If so, are you salty because of that too?

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Originally Posted by FedoraTheExplorer

Already got the mount. Happy to see it's much easier to get now. Doesn't devalue my Ixion whatsoever nor the time I put into getting it.

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Originally Posted by ElazulHP

I'm not going to lie i'm a bit salty about this. I spent a long time trying to get this mount. Should have just waited and not wasted my time...

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Two kinds of people, ladies and gents.

I highly doubt Ixion will completely die out since it's the only super boss FATE to give tokens for a mount. Behemoth/Odin get you Vanity + furnishings. Coeurlregina/Proto-Ultima gives Vanity. Tamamo-no-Gozen gives a Furnishing, Vanity, and a minion.

I welcome the change. I have one horn, hahaha, and this improves my changes. Thanks SE!

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Originally Posted by Nerfworthy

Two kinds of people, ladies and gents.

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Nice passive aggressive insult. I won't rise to your bait.

That said i'm not saying I'm upset people are able to get it easier or that it devalues my mount. I'm glad people are able to get it easier. I'm simply a tad bit salty that I wasted weeks of my time farming it when I could have been doing more productive things with my limited time. I didn't expect them to make changes for at least another couple of months time.

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Originally Posted by BassGhost

Ixion, while many argue is not the most good looking mount it is very unique in comparison to the other available mounts. It only made sense that it should take you time and dedication to obtain.

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Zero skill and basically Zero gear needed. This is not FFXI, long spawn windows are crap. They had a couple choices. Add another way to get horns, continue the awesome show that is current system, increase drop/lower horns needed. They laso may want to turn off instances, since the design is still lacking two years later.

Also I think the mount looks obnoxious, but that is just me. It just screams look at me I am trying so hard.

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Originally Posted by BassGhost

Can we talk about the change that was made for Ixion horn drop rate?



I think we can all agree camping Ixion is a pain but this change seemed pretty drastic especially so early in the expansion. This change effectively devalues the mount entirely because you can easily get the mount in a single day after a maintenance reset due to the 3 instances still being up.

Unlike the other new mounts added in SB, this was one of the only ones that weren't reliant on RNG and you could get from enough dedication. It's really disappointing that something so unique was devalued just because people can't be patient.

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Please, tell me you are not being serious... A LOT of people where literally raging on the forums because the mount took too many attempts to get, and now, they ease the number of horns you get from the FATE and people think it's a "bad move from SE" ?

SE is prob rolling their eyes right about now.

I'm sorry, but other people have better stuff to do with their game time than to camp a map for who knows how many hours, some even reported not being able to finish the FATE due to the massive lag they got on the map, SE it's just making the right thing for increasing the horn drop. I also think that calling people impatient for not "playing" a video game for a whole day to get a mount it's unfair, since many have other obligations like work, kids, or school.

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Originally Posted by Dark-Saviour

It only takes one Odin or Behemoth to get any of their prizes.
One CoeurlRegina chain too, IIRC.
One Foxy Lady (If it ever spawns) for those rewards as well.

Ixion was the only one that took that many encounters.

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And none of those rewards were mounts. So your point is?

For me this mount didn't have any value from the start. When i did see how many people were farming it the first time i got close to an Ixion fate, i was like "ok, i am not going to bother with that if in the end it is going to be so much mainstream to have it XD". Especially with some of my skills not working because of too much people on the map. I always end up using back my yellow generic chocobo because it is the mount i own that hide the less the scenary anyway.

Nice change for those who want to complete their collection though.

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Originally Posted by Mandudez

And none of those rewards were mounts. So your point is?

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And this reward isn't a barding.
Worth is subjective.

you can't make everyone happy all the time. Sorry your mount isn't "special" anymore.