Please lift the insane level restriction on when you can glamour

There is not one valid reason for the restriction. None. So come on; let us be able to look how we want.

I am so confused at you posting this right after your last post elsewhere. But anyway, are you meaning the level restriction?

No! I like people being forced to wear the Cotton Sugarloaf Hat!

For this level 1 glamour exist.
Or just get more exp.

If he means getting to level 50 to do the quest to unlock it, which I think IS what he means, then I agree. Definitely would be a good idea. But, since the quest is in Mor Dhona, I'm not sure how they can feasibly reduce it to a much lower level, on par with the dye quest...

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Originally Posted by Greedalox

No! I like people being forced to wear the Cotton Sugarloaf Hat!

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You mean everyone else didn't glamour that hat? I just figured we had the same style.

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But, since the quest is in Mor Dhona, I'm not sure how they can feasibly reduce it to a much lower level, on par with the dye quest...

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Level 1s can run their way there. This argument doesn't really hold up.

It's not even remotely difficult to do either, unlike the infamous "Jeuno runs" of FFXI era.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Level 1s can run their way there. This argument doesn't really hold up.

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Level 1s that didn't start as MRD or ACN.

You can't run off of Limsa. literally trapped there 'till airship unlock.

We all had to go through the subligar. It's a right of passage.

Why it was ever set at or left at level 50 to unlock really makes no sense to me.

I think it's already information overload at low levels but around level 30 would be a nice, logical place for it for those who don't luck into the cool Brayflox gear shortly afterwards and have to look like clowns.

Because before 50 you lvl up and are changing gear at such at such a rapid rate that makes glamouring pointless?

Just a thought.

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Originally Posted by Greedalox

No! I like people being forced to wear the Cotton Sugarloaf Hat!

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Personally, I don't think this game has enough sugarloaf hats.

Glamour prisms are considered level 30 crafts, even though you need to be level 50 to learn the recipes.. so I think having it unlock at 30 would be a good spot (also for the crafts).
It also makes it available to free trial players, which could help convince them to sub.

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Originally Posted by DarkDedede

Personally, I don't think this game has enough sugarloaf hats.

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Sugarloaf best loaf.
Moar Subligars too!

The irony of this post from this op... XD

Don't see any harm on make Glamour accessible earlier, and that can maybe drive more sales for the mog station, on top of it. It may happen.

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Originally Posted by Serilda

I think it's already information overload at low levels but around level 30 would be a nice, logical place for it for those who don't luck into the cool Brayflox gear shortly afterwards and have to look like clowns.

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You get the quest to unlock dyeing gear at level 17. It would be a perfectly logical extension to it. Make it a level 20 follow up from the same NPC. People who get upgrades from Halatari and Toto-rak who still love their beginner's set would certainly welcome this, and find it a perfectly placed quest.

I'm not totally against the idea, but maybe it would be a little frustrating cause at this lower levels you don't normally have that much money to buy glamour prisms on the market board, so you'd have to depend on someone else to craft it for you or give you money and for that you'd have to know someone ingame already which is not always true. And would be really awkward if a novice spent all his money on a single glamour prism and find out that he can't even teleport now XDD

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Why it was ever set at or left at level 50 to unlock really makes no sense to me.

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maxlevel reward back at that time

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

If he means getting to level 50 to do the quest to unlock it, which I think IS what he means, then I agree. Definitely would be a good idea. But, since the quest is in Mor Dhona, I'm not sure how they can feasibly reduce it to a much lower level, on par with the dye quest...

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Why does it need a quest to unlock it in the first place?

Just move the NPC, anyway. The HIGHEST level it should require is 15.

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Originally Posted by Vulcwen

Glamour prisms are considered level 30 crafts, even though you need to be level 50 to learn the recipes..

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Also a dumb thing.

These kinds of things really need to be changed alongside a reworking of the glamour system as a whole.

Truth. Release the glamour log system then clean out the old, complicated system we have.

Honestly, your focus should be on leveling, not fashion when your changing your gear with every other dungeon run and quest reward.
If you really want to waste the gil glamouring every time you get a new chest piece, just open a trade window and give me your gil, i'll put it to better use.

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Originally Posted by Kaiden019

We all had to go through the subligar. It's a right of passage.

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^ LOL this.

Still though, since the first subligar in game is level 12, moving the glamour quest to level 15 (put it in each city state so players don't have to travel for it), would still allow new players the subligar rite of passage while also unlocking glamour earlier in the game. A win/win.

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Originally Posted by Nhisso

There is not one valid reason for the restriction. None. So come on; let us be able to look how we want.

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Since you're 60 i don't get why you're complaining. There's not much point to glamouring gear you wear for less than a day usually. Getting to 50 is pretty fast, so I see no huge problem here.

You change gear like every level whIle leveling it would be pointless. I think you should be able to do a glam book where the outfit stays the same regardless of what you equip, rather than doing each piece individually

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Originally Posted by Fluffernuff

Level 1s that didn't start as MRD or ACN.

You can't run off of Limsa. literally trapped there 'till airship unlock.

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Incorrect. There is a boat that you can take as early as level 1 to Vesper Bay in Uldah.

To be honest they should just change the whole system and have you glamour a gear slot instead of the gear itself. This way I don't have to keep re glamouring every time I get a new piece of gear. Can also make it so you have multiple sets. Would just make this a lot simpler. Also allow players to do this at most level 20.

The current system is designed to publicly humiliate us as an incentive to get down to business and hit 50 asap. That way, you will appreciate it more instead of taking it for granted.

Evil? Yes. But you will learn what it means to run around in subligars and sugar loaf hats. Especially if you are male and use a dark scary name.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Incorrect. There is a boat that you can take as early as level 1 to Vesper Bay in Uldah.

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Incorrect. That boat is "unavailable" to a level 1 character. interacting with the ferry master doesn't give a level requirement like other ferries, either. So since it's not level gated, I can be pretty safe in assuming that said Ferry is unlocked after getting your airship pass. After that point, you can ride it on a level 1 class.

Regardless, it isn't unlocked immediately to a new level 1 player and isn't gated behind level. You are stuck in Limsa until the game arbitrarily lets you leave.

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Originally Posted by Genoreaper

I think you should be able to do a glam book where the outfit stays the same regardless of what you equip, rather than doing each piece individually

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Thiiiiiis.

I think it's perfectly fine to earn the right to look however you want. It's extra motivation to reach level 50. It's one of your rewards for doing so.

Yeah I'd like to see this addressed honestly. I can't tell you how many times I've bought level 60 PVP glamour gear for my job I'm going to level and then I'm like "oh fuck I can't even glamour this shit". V_V

SE!!!

Please just let everyone do whatever they want! This game should allow absolutely no progression!!! Just remove all gated content and allow people to just do whatever they want! They pay this sub so you owe it to them!!!!!!!1

Low levels should look just as amazing and powerful as max character! It makes much sense to allow the base classes to be able to look like they can kill anything!!

!!1

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Originally Posted by Fluffernuff

Incorrect. That boat is "unavailable" to a level 1 character. interacting with the ferry master doesn't give a level requirement like other ferries, either. So since it's not level gated, I can be pretty safe in assuming that said Ferry is unlocked after getting your airship pass. After that point, you can ride it on a level 1 class.

Regardless, it isn't unlocked immediately to a new level 1 player and isn't gated behind level. You are stuck in Limsa until the game arbitrarily lets you leave.

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Nope.

I made a new character in Limsa (because I wanted to play an Arcanist), but I wanted to do side quests in Uldah and unlock Gladiator right away, so I took the boat.

Now, I did do the first few MSQs in Limsa before leaving, so if it is locked for a level 1, then it is unlocked through the first few main story quests, not Airship.

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Originally Posted by Serilda

I am so confused at you posting this right after your last post elsewhere. But anyway, are you meaning the level restriction?

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He doesn't have to be the victim of a crime to report it. And yeah, I'm sure he means how the quest to unlock being able to use glamours is lv 50.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Nope.

I made a new character in Limsa (because I wanted to play an Arcanist), but I wanted to do side quests in Uldah and unlock Gladiator right away, so I took the boat.

Now, I did do the first few MSQs in Limsa before leaving, so if it is locked for a level 1, then it is unlocked through the first few main story quests, not Airship.

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Then that is something they have quietly changed as I remember right at the start of ARR before I got my airship pass (but still fairly advanced in the early story) trying to access the ferry from Vesper Bay and the ticketer basically told me to take a hike.

As for glamour, I'm going to presume that the reason why SE set the quest to unlock at level 50 was because the glamour system was only added to the game in a later ARR content patch (patch... 2.2/2.3 I think) and was not available in the game at the start, so SE presumed that the majority of players at that point were already at level 50, and that they didn't want to overload new players with too much content to unlock at the start (instead gradually release things to them as they went along).

As others have said it's nothing that much of an issue now as level 1-50 exp is practically given out like candy - if not bypassed completely (with the level jump potion) so this argument is a non-issue. Hence I don't see SE changing it at all I'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

It's not even remotely difficult to do either, unlike the infamous "Jeuno runs" of FFXI era.

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Oooh I did this not long ago when I tried a private server for it. I swear it took me about an hour to run from potato village to Jueno. Good fun.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Incorrect. There is a boat that you can take as early as level 1 to Vesper Bay in Uldah.

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That boat don't work without the airship pass from the MSQ

While I agree that the glamour skill restriction should be changed I wonder though how it may effect lower lvl characters. The latest and greatest in glamour items is usually a lvl1 piece so usable by a new player but also usually selling for several mil on the MB - imagine a brand new lvl1 player seeing it and then seeing the cost and of course with those RMT spammers standing right next to the MB they figure the fastest way to look pretty is to buy gil.

In the novice network on Faerie I see new players all the time asking how they can make millions of gil really fast. I remember one player who after asking what sold well, realised he would have to level miner to 40 then complained on how it was unfair new players couldn't make gil. I've seen similar complaints enough times to know that new players turning to RMT for their glam needs is a very real possibility.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be changed, only that there may be consequences from it that the devs should try to head off perhaps by ensuring the availability of nice cheap items from say the same guy who sells the race stuff - to ensure that new players have options to look how they want without turning to RMT.