ARR Zodiac and HW Anima Weapon Quest Nerf?

I want to know if they ever going to further nerf the ARR Zodiac and HW Anima Weapon quest because I mean we're in SB now, shouldn't they nerf it again?

It's hard now days to farm Lights for Anima Weapon Quest >.<
or they should implement that we get Lights from ARR and SB dungeons/raids/trials...

ARR Zodiac final nerf was in 3.1, there will be no more nerfs
Anima final nerf can be in 4.1

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Originally Posted by ximxim

It's hard now days to farm Lights for Anima Weapon Quest >.<

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I see... kinda frustrating doing the ARR Zodiac Weapon quests over and over again, but love to death the glow of Nexus for each type of weapons >.<
Perseverance is need after all!

I don't see how they can nerf even more Zodiac weapons.

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Originally Posted by Driavna

I don't see how they can nerf even more Zodiac weapons.

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Free Zodiac weapons for everyone.

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Originally Posted by FateAudax

Free Zodiac weapons for everyone.

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A joke, sure, but it would be a little bit nice if it were streamlined enough to not be totally obsolete by the time you finish. Or even by the time you start.

I don't really support just fully slashing out content or anything, and I wouldn't expect them to be so toned down as to be completed in a day, but it is a little disappointing to know I'm only getting any use out of it at all because I'm stalling on HW and avoiding purchasing Ironworks. If I had continued straight with the story (as I expect most would), I'd probably be pushing end-HW before I ever finished this thing.

Respect to you OGs that slogged through this as originally designed and all, though. I'm doing this because I choose to, dunno if I'd put up with it at actual end-game.

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Originally Posted by Driavna

I don't see how they can nerf even more Zodiac weapons.

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Switch the books to only requiring FATEs in specific zones and any level 50 dungeon?
Drop the requirement for the crafted items in the Zodiac stage, or switch them to more basic materials?

Zodiac is already pretty easy when you compare it to what it was before nerf.

While it wouldn't hurt anything gameplay wise for it to be made easier since it's obsolete at this point anyway, it would kind of take away the feeling that this is a legendary weapon you worked hard to obtain if you could bang one out in 5 mins.

My only real request would be to totally separate the relics, I was working on a ARR relic when HW relics came out and because the HW relics required poetics for some of the steps, my ARR relic got put on hold because current relic > obsolete relic. Eventually I just gave up and dumped the ARR relic because the HW relics were taking up all my poetics. I'd rather ARR relics work off ARR specific currency while HW relics work off HW currency and SB relics when they come work off SB currency.

If you get a light farming party through party finder it will take you roughly about 12 hours to get all of it (doing a1s unsynced). It's not terrible, but you can't really do it passively as most of the time you'll be doing SB content. They should probably half the amount of light you need or add the possibility to obtain light from new content also. As for the other steps, you can easily do them just by doing beast tribes every day and honestly it doesn't even feel like a grind so I think that's in a good place atm even with the weapon being obsolete.

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Originally Posted by Driavna

I don't see how they can nerf even more Zodiac weapons.

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Remove fate from book. It's still hours of patience for something that is easy to do once it spawns. Or increase book fate's spawn rate.

Add desynthesis materials for HQ craft to GC.

There's plenty of way it can still be nerfed.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

A joke, sure, but it would be a little bit nice if it were streamlined enough to not be totally obsolete by the time you finish. Or even by the time you start.

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If you start just now then they are already obsolete before you start outside of glamour. The max ilevel is 130.

I'm currently on the Singing Cluster step for an AST Anima. Once I saw the Anima minion, I opted to pick it back up. Glamour for my weapons aside, I always use minions, and having a really pretty rare one like Anima will be cool :D
It looks WAY better than the Fairies, anyway.
https://i.redd.it/fw1nsjca7kby.jpg
I tell everyone new to AT LEAST do the first part of the Zodiac, as it's full of unique job lore, sets you up for the first HM fights, and rewards a title.

I question how I ever passed these books the first time. Sure, I can solo all the leves and dungeons, but the fate camping just destroys my soul every time.

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Originally Posted by Aquaslash

I question how I ever passed these books the first time. Sure, I can solo all the leves and dungeons, but the fate camping just destroys my soul every time.

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This.
just remove the freaking Fates requirement and I'll be happy like a little girl running through field of flowers.

Never had problems with the FATEs. They always showed up within a cycle or two. It's probably easier if you google the fate and see if it has any prerequisites. Then do the prerequisite or any overlapping fates in the area. Personally, I found the crystal sands/materia stages the most annoying. Light/density is just a grind.

Alexandrite is going to be a mild annoyance as nobody on my server calls ARR hunts anymore so they get solod and not reported. I'll have to use maps and I think they drop from fates too just by having the weapon equipped.

Might have to be on the quest itself though, it's been a while.

On a unrelated note, I'm never gonna get all those mount speeds :(

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Originally Posted by Aquaslash

Alexandrite is going to be a mild annoyance as nobody on my server calls ARR hunts anymore so they get solod and not reported. I'll have to use maps and I think they drop from fates too just by having the weapon equipped.

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In Mor Dhona you can get a daily quest that reward with Alexandrite maps.

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Originally Posted by savageink

Never had problems with the FATEs. They always showed up within a cycle or two. It's probably easier if you google the fate and see if it has any prerequisites. Then do the prerequisite or any overlapping fates in the area. Personally, I found the crystal sands/materia stages the most annoying. Light/density is just a grind.

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Alexandrite grind is way breezy compare to those FATE camp because now you can trade 75 poetics for 1 Mysterious Map and get 5 Alexandrite at once. there is also daily in Mor Dhono which reward Mysterious Map.

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Originally Posted by Felis

If you start just now then they are already obsolete before you start outside of glamour. The max ilevel is 130.

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Yes, but what I mean is, you basically have to start the grind immediately at 50 to make it almost usable. The weapon starts at i90, and MSQ already rewards i90 weapons early/midway into the 2.x quests, and later rewards i110. The relic can't even outclass that until you get past the Alexandrite grind. The only way to make this feel mildly worthwhile is to not buy HW so you cap at 50, otherwise you could gain several extra levels just grinding the weapon.

On that subject, probably my least favorite step so far, for requiring low-grade materia that I had already trashed ages ago. That's one step that I'd love to see tweaked, so that maybe higher grade materia can count for multiples, and just reduce the multiplier the more you use.

Books were a grind, and I think probably should be reduced to 1 per stat. 9 books is too much.

As for light grinding, it's not too much trouble. There's always an abundance of Extremes being run for WT, and the occasional Coil. But I do think they should drop the requirements (or buff the gains), especially considering the biggest gains are from the 24-mans which are rarely run. There is also Frontlines, but I can't comment on that since I haven't tried during active hours.

As someone that recently finished up through to the light farm currently farming light, the only part of the ARR relics that needs touched is the book phase. It does nothing to encourage people to go back and help others in old content (I literally ran these unsynced because it took a third of the time joining a party did) and is simply incredibly annoying.

While I doubt it'll ever change, I'd honestly prefer if they switched the books over to requiring synced clears of dungeons and removing the Monsters and Leve sections, just leaving 3 synced dungeons + Fates, reinvigorating old content a bit.

Zodiak weapons are no longer current content and players have access to better gear to keep leveling, it's optional content that you do for glamour, titles and/or achievements. I did the PLD relic during HW and I took me around 3 months of casual game play (I even level all DoH to craft the necessary items myself because I can't afford the prices of my server back then), all the hardest and most annoying parts (the items from dungeons are 100% drop now for example) of the chain are nerfed.

There is no reason to nerf it even more, if you want the item you deal with it but if you can't be bothered just ignore it.

Ok, minor bump as I make a bit of progress. A step that needs a major nerf is the one right after light farming. All the quests to run the 50 dungeons are just fine, but holy hell, the crafting requirements for the final turn-ins need to be dropped like a stone. I thought I was prepared to be able to do it myself, I probably could've desynthed enough to get what I needed (maybe, kinda abandoned trying when I saw the stat requirements), but it is obscene to expect players to grind that at this stage.

Yeah yeah, just level crafters more and gear up past 50 and better skills etc etc. But at that point, you're (again) likely outpacing the (limited) usefulness of the weapon.