Sch materia

So what are other SCH's socketing in their gear, besides vit on the accessories?

Also which crafted accessories are you using?

Vit? Im not putting Vit xD
Im going crit > det > ss
Dunno if im doing something wrong but is how I almost always have being going, just removed ss because of 1 less dot.

I thought ss would be over details to reduce the broil 2 cast time.

Crit and Det are strong; I think SCH favors Crit. SpS is a reasonable 3rd place. Vit on Acc's if you're running out of health in Savage; otherwise it's not necessary.

I will be focusing on crit and det overall with a couple sps. I did add a couple piety materia early on for a little extra help at launch.

Focus on Crit and Det, with some SS.

i figured it was still crit and det just wanted to make sure. Also you do need more hp for savage mode since you won't see the upgrades that early. So vit on accessories is always nice its like how the old raids were.

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Originally Posted by Amenako

i figured it was still crit and det just wanted to make sure. Also you do need more hp for savage mode since you won't see the upgrades that early. So vit on accessories is always nice its like how the old raids were.

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How is the damage anyway in 2-4 Savage? I've seen the first savage and the damage wasn't anything so horrible I'd ever consider using Vit materia to counter (not even the Coils back in 2.x were bad enough to where I ever considered it).

uhh i havent been to 3 or 4 yet but 2 just like 1 isnt bad but if you get hit by something unnecessary which might not be your fault will get you killed. i think most healers i know want something around 35k or more i dunno how high you can go since i havent finished melding yet. its just a good buffer so you dont get one shot by aoes and stuff because theres a lot and it does hurt quite a bit
its not necessary like you said but it is great to have at the start since we can't get higher gear until a few weeks from now in terms of tomes.

Anyone using piety? I've been piling on det and crit, but I did socket a couple piety over SS on my job artifact to help before 4.05 hit.

crit/SS, I play both AST & SCH and don't have vit melds but might swap out my remaining +12s in accs with them (because I don't really want to remove my VI materias lol)

I'm a big fan of Vit in accessories. Earlier today I biffed something in Omega normal and survived with a few hundred HP, thanks to my Vit melds. Every once in a while, it keeps you alive and that can easily be the difference between a wipe and a clear.

Beyond that, I would probably have to prioritize crit over DH, SS, or Det due to Aldo's extra crit bonus.

I think SCH gets the least benefit to healing from SS out of the three healers, with so many of our heals being oGCD and having no HoT spells for SS to buff. I would put SS at the bottom of the list.

Still getting a feel for where Piety fits in. The 4.05 changes have made MP better, but running Omega tonight, I didn't have as much of an MP buffer as I like to have. However, I remember when HW first dropped, MP seemed scarce, but stopped being an issue after gear improved.

While we don't get the regen benefit from SS like AST or WHM we do get the damage increase to our DoTs. This means Miasma 2, Miasma, Bio 2, and Shadowflare will all do more with more spell speed. That, and having bio, in 3.0 is why SS was weighted so high for SCH. What I don't recall is if it affects our Eos' regen. If it does then even better. Now having said that, I am still favoring Crit myself. PIE not so much cause with the Aetherflow changes I have found the MP issues to balance out with occasional Lucid Dreaming for when things get sour.

-Keyo Reinhart

Edit:
Playing with Ariyala I think I am going to aim for something like this for a few reasons:
-Not assuming any omega clears
-Reduced gil consumption
-Still trying to get the most out possible

Full disclaimer: Not calling this BiS by any means just my current aim till weights are updated.

Another benefit of Spell Speed is that you have more leeway to move before a cast is finished without interrupting it. It gives you more versaility to stutterstep once you get the timing right.

Low SS builds don't have this benefit.

My preference is
Crit >>> Det >> DH >= Piety >>> SS

I went the Spell Speed route in HW eventually having a GCD of 2.22s and I really think it's a garbage stat for Scholar because it hampers the ability to double-weave with long animations (Rouse, aetherflow)

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Originally Posted by RajaVamberaux

My preference is
Crit >>> Det >> DH >= Piety >>> SS

I went the Spell Speed route in HW eventually having a GCD of 2.22s and I really think it's a garbage stat for Scholar because it hampers the ability to double-weave with long animations (Rouse, aetherflow)

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Remember that SS effects DoT damage. That alone will guarantee it's never a trash stat for SCH.

Been going crit> d.hit

Has been working out good

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Remember that SS effects DoT damage. That alone will guarantee it's never a trash stat for SCH.

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Yeah I haven't forgotten. In my opinion though a lower GCD is bad for Scholar; whereas DH doesn't have anything inherently negative about it, except that it doesn't affect healing, which I don't think spell speed would improve much either.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

How is the damage anyway in 2-4 Savage? I've seen the first savage and the damage wasn't anything so horrible I'd ever consider using Vit materia to counter (not even the Coils back in 2.x were bad enough to where I ever considered it).

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I'm on 3 atm, there's lots of damage. the White add hits like a damn truck. she uses more aoe damage than anything and has a new tank buster called "Critical Hit" which can and will 1-shot the tank even through your Adlo. like a chainsaw to a stick of butter really. she does 1 right at the beginning of the fight and more throughout the fight. it's a slow build-up.

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Originally Posted by MercuryAcetylene

I'm on 3 atm, there's lots of damage. the White add hits like a damn truck. she uses more aoe damage than anything and has a new tank buster called "Critical Hit" which can and will 1-shot the tank even through your Adlo. like a chainsaw to a stick of butter really. she does 1 right at the beginning of the fight and more throughout the fight. it's a slow build-up.

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Oh damn, that sounds like absolute hell. I'll probably keep the Vit VI I have on standby then for when my static reaches there.

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Originally Posted by MercuryAcetylene

I'm on 3 atm, there's lots of damage. the White add hits like a damn truck. she uses more aoe damage than anything and has a new tank buster called "Critical Hit" which can and will 1-shot the tank even through your Adlo. like a chainsaw to a stick of butter really. she does 1 right at the beginning of the fight and more throughout the fight. it's a slow build-up.

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Recommend your tanks to take Awareness from cross-role for Critical Hit. It works very well for that.

I'm currently using vit vi on accessories for savage. sitting at 36000 hp with buffs. 1 DH is going to the genji headgearn i have 1 piety VI and the rest Det. I'm going to swap to Crit for all i340 gear that I can get. Ending stats would be something around 2200 Crit and 1300? Det when omega savage is cleared. read on Reddit that crit starts to surpass det (for DPS) at least in the 2400 range.

I'm not sure of this is optimal as opposed to just going det all the way and slotting crit for the next ilvl tier gear

right now with 1140 crit and 1092 det i have around... 10% crit chance

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Originally Posted by LegoTechnic

Recommend your tanks to take Awareness from cross-role for Critical Hit. It works very well for that.

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Oh we know, it was the first thing we came up with as soon as we saw the attack the first time. the problem is its on a 2Min CD and she does it more often than you would like. even if people try to tank swap.