What happened to Cluster rewards for Leveling Roulette?

I was able to receive one cluster today for being an adventurer in need, but when I tried both subsequent times (one of which was after reset) I did not get any clusters.

Why is this?

Did you queue as a full party? I don't believe you will get those rewards if you do and the rewards only apply to leveling roulette. I think we'll actually see the reward (drop) posted in the roulette window after they run maintenance for 4.05.

It was solo, all three times.

All three times I received the "[12:46]A bonus of 14,400 experience points and 8,100 gil has been awarded for being an adventurer in need." but I did not get a cluster.

Sometimes it changes on you before queue pops. Probably got in when it shifted to healer.
Or not, if you got messages like that every time. No idea.

I wasn't aware that you could get this more than once a day.

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

Sometimes it changes on you before queue pops. Probably got in when it shifted to healer

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All three times I received the "[12:46]A bonus of 14,400 experience points and 8,100 gil has been awarded for being an adventurer in need." but I did not get a cluster.

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Pretty sure they were the one in need. However yes you can (or could before) get it multiple times in a day, I managed to get 8 or so day 1 from 'healer in need' for leveling.

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Originally Posted by Lelila38

I wasn't aware that you could get this more than once a day.

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I was able to do it multiple times when it first went live.

And again, it didn't give me one both before *and* after the daily reset.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

Pretty sure they were the one in need. However yes you can (or could before) get it multiple times in a day, I managed to get 8 or so day 1 from 'healer in need' for leveling.

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Threads don't update immediately, that post wasn't there while I was typing.

So you're saying I could run it with the class I actually want to level to get the roulette xp once, and then continue to run as tank for the cluster bonus? Being able to farm those unlimited times a day sounds broken, but I'm gonna try that later today. If this actually works, thanks for the tip.

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Originally Posted by Lelila38

So you're saying I could run it with the class I actually want to level to get the roulette xp once, and then continue to run as tank for the cluster bonus? Being able to farm those unlimited times a day sounds broken, but I'm gonna try that later today. If this actually works, thanks for the tip.

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It works. I farmed this 3 clusters a day.

btw TC, you did run with lv60+ job right? If I remember it right, you will only receive it with level 60 onward.

We're you using a job that was level 60? As far as I am aware it's only available if you are level 60+.

:( Someone beat me to the punch.

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

We're you using a job that was level 70? As far as I am aware it's only available if you are level 70.

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Uh, no. 60 and above.

Yeah, I made a mistake. If you gave me like 2 seconds you would have seen I edited me post. :)

Sorry, i was happened to refresh it. Haha.

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Originally Posted by Zish

I was able to receive one cluster today for being an adventurer in need, but when I tried both subsequent times (one of which was after reset) I did not get any clusters. Why is this?

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Don't know if someone else explained in full detail prior, didn't bother to read the whole thread. So, your actual answer:

Adventurer in need bonus is calculated at the point of duty completion (for leveling roulette, this is when the last boss of the dungeon dies and the chest appears). Even though the Duty Finder may have stated that tank was the adventurer in need, that could have changed by the time you cleared the content (especially if it was near the time of daily reset).

This is horrible design, I know. I empathize with you about it, as I too have been screwed over by it many, many times (hence why I researched how it works). My advice, since they're never going to fix this, is to simply view the adventurer in need as a "random reward" type of deal, with tank being the highest chances to succeed.

Far as I know is at random. From 12 runs I got 7 as a tank. Only from tank 70+. I've yet to see it on 60+. I hear you can , yet haven't experienced it. Tried with formed party 0 rewards, solo seems to work. Incentive to help queue wait times.

Hmm, I don't think that is right. I mean, I used to go in with DPS when it was in need. It was rare, I don't think that by the time I completed the instance, it will be another DPS in need.

The forums are saying you are 50 marauder... I think the pertinent question, as mentioned above, is what level tank were you on? If it's below level 60 you won't be getting cracked clusters.

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Originally Posted by kattzkitti

Don't know if someone else explained in full detail prior, didn't bother to read the whole thread. So, your actual answer:

Adventurer in need bonus is calculated at the point of duty completion (for leveling roulette, this is when the last boss of the dungeon dies and the chest appears). Even though the Duty Finder may have stated that tank was the adventurer in need, that could have changed by the time you cleared the content (especially if it was near the time of daily reset).

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I am almost confident that is completely incorrect. Why would they offer the reward to get people to help start a dungeon/roulette to change it while inside? Otherwise the rare occasion the DPS are in need, they would never get the reward.

Like AlphaFox and Neri said, I'm pretty sure the bonus from being in need to determined before you even enter the dungeon. As long as you queue while in need you will get the reward, even if it changes while you wait for the queue to pop.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

I am almost confident that is completely incorrect. Why would they offer the reward to get people to help start a dungeon/roulette to change it while inside? Otherwise the rare occasion the DPS are in need, they would never get the reward.

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It is completely wrong. Yesterday morning was the first time I've seen healer as needed in over half a year so I jumped in leveling on my 70 WHM. Got a cluster and when I immediately checked again, it was already back to tank.

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

Like AlphaFox and Neri said, I'm pretty sure the bonus from being in need to determined before you even enter the dungeon. As long as you queue while in need you will get the reward, even if it changes while you wait for the queue to pop.

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Thing is, you start a roulette before the reset that you didn't do the day before. End the dungeon AFTER the reset, and your bonus for the day is already used up, and you missed the day before. It's happened to me a few times where I wasn't able to get on the day/night before and tried it early the next morning...nope didn't work.

Bonus for the day and Adventurer in need are two different bonuses. You receive the daily bonus when the last boss dies, so if it dies when the new day starts your bonus for the day is complete. However the adventurer in need (the one tied to the cluster), as soon as you sign up you are given the reward upon completion.

It would completely defeat the purpose of asking people to queue as something for a bonus if that bonus can be revoked mid-instance.

I've never got more than 1 per day. That's weird.

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

It would completely defeat the purpose of asking people to queue as something for a bonus if that bonus can be revoked mid-instance.

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It can however change between the time you queue and the time the last player hits Commence. Hence make sure that if the last player times out, bring the duty finder back up and check it hasn't changed. If it's changed, then you will know why.

Also yes.

http://i.imgur.com/8gHUhCr.png

Despite what the queue says in need, keep in mind that there is no raid/extreme roulette, and raids typically are short DPS. Since there is incentive for the cracked cluster, this pretty much means tanks will do the leveling queue a bit more frequently, though typically it will switch between healer and tank every 5 minutes or so.

So far I have never got one cluster as a healer for leveling roulette and when I que i'm by myself and not in a party. Do it everyday using it to level my healers. Most see is a exp. and gil bonus. When look at it always says tank in need when I'm a healers job and when switch to a tank job it always changes and says healer in need.