Why do people DDoS a game?

Really. Why?
Are they contracted by competitors to disrupt service? If so, then that's more than a little illegal. Yeah, I know. Good luck enforcing that law.

Is it for S&G? Surely there are better targets out there than an MMO.

Because people have nothing better to do with their time? To encourage third party applications, underground movements, ect.

Most of the time the people do it for S&G, or in their words "because they can"

Or because they feel slighted for being banned for something that is clearly against the ToS.

Some people just enjoy trying to make other people mad. I guess it gives them a feeling of power or importance they lack elsewhere in life.

for the most part people do its because they are utter failures as human beings

I personally think that they are extraordinary under endowed in certain areas and this is how they feel better about that.

It's kind of funny. But also sad. They it became funny again.

This doesn't feel like a DDOS attack. Feels like XIV Servers can't handle themselves. Insult to injury where they decided to move NA servers to the other side of the map at the same time as an expansion. Recipe for disaster if you ask me.

Because they're sad little unemployed no-lifers with nothing meaningful to do with their lives.

You might as well as why they pick their nose as well.

It's probably random kids who think that running a DDOS script written by someone else is real hacking. But given the low bar of entry into this form of cyber vandalism, it could just as easily be a disgruntled player who was rightly banned, but feels aggrieved.

Shh, threads like these is what they want. Attention.

To get a response because antagonizing others amuses them.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

This doesn't feel like a DDOS attack. Feels like XIV Servers can't handle themselves.

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Same, it's much more likely that we're the ones DDOSing the servers by trying to play, rather than a group of evil nerds getting revenge on SE...while no one claims responsibility for it, despite kneecapping a huge MMO.

Obligatory at this point...

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Originally Posted by hallard

Same, it's much more likely that we're the ones DDOSing the servers by trying to play, rather than a group of evil nerds getting revenge on SE...while no one claims responsibility for it, despite kneecapping a huge MMO.

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Yeah if it was DDOS we would know who was behind it by now. This is a Server problem on SE's end. PR gonna PR and damage control though.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Yeah if it was DDOS we would know who was behind it by now. This is a Server problem on SE's end. PR gonna PR and damage control though.

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No, we wouldn't know who it was unless they were a reasonably large group who happily claimed responsibility. If it's some script kiddy we will likely never know.

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Originally Posted by hallard

Same, it's much more likely that we're the ones DDOSing the servers by trying to play, rather than a group of evil nerds getting revenge on SE...while no one claims responsibility for it, despite kneecapping a huge MMO.

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Yes, during work hours on a weekday is when the servers cant handle it. Not during the weekends when everyone is off work and playing, when the servers have no issues. Yep, definitely.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Yeah if it was DDOS we would know who was behind it by now. This is a Server problem on SE's end. PR gonna PR and damage control though.

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Clearly you don't know DDoS attacks if you think identifying the culprit is a sure thing.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

No, we wouldn't know who it was unless they were a reasonably large group who happily claimed responsibility. If it's some script kiddy we will likely never know.

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Doesn't feel like DDOs at all the servers have been pretty bad since the launch of SB there's still congestion issues, lagging out during big FATEs, people reporting having over 300+ ping on a good day. Feels more like the servers themselves rather then some DDOs attack.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

If it's some script kiddy we will likely never know.

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So you're saying that if a lone script kiddie managed to take down one of the most popular MMOs nowadays and cause butthurt amongst hundreds of thousands of players, they WOULDN'T make a twitter account with some edgy name just to brag about how easy it was to stop a weeb catgirl game? I find that much less likely than SE managed to screw up hardcore during the move and is struggling to cover it up by claiming it's a malevolent DDOS when, in fact, they just didn't expect the normal expac playerbase to be so large.

Kids who think it's funny or cool.

I vaguely remember reading something about kids basically being psychopaths up to a certain age due to their brains not being fully developed. Not sure if true or BS but it makes sense to me.

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So you're saying that if a lone script kiddie managed to take down one of the most popular MMOs nowadays and cause butthurt amongst hundreds of thousands of players, they WOULDN'T make a twitter account with some edgy name just to brag about how easy it was to stop a weeb catgirl game? I find that much less likely than SE managed to screw up hardcore during the move and is struggling to cover it up by claiming it's a malevolent DDOS when, in fact, they just didn't expect the normal expac playerbase to be so large.

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If it was the unexpectedly large playerbase for the expansion, it would have been all day every day on the weekends, where it didnt happen at all, at least this past weekend, and not at 3PM EDT on a workday.

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Originally Posted by Elim

I vaguely remember reading something about kids basically being psychopaths up to a certain age due to their brains not being fully developed. Not sure if true or BS but it makes sense to me.

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That's actually true, animals innately have no sense of morality and, being small animals with underdeveloped brains, children must learn to act civilized. It's why most kid will immediately lie if they're caught doing something wrong, if their parents haven't firmly taught them that the punishment for bad behavior is worse than the pain of not having that candy bar they wanted to walk out of the store with.

But that's unrelated to the servers breaking constantly, so...

To get reaction threads like this calling them names etc.

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Originally Posted by Sarevok_Thordin

Clearly you don't know DDoS attacks if you think identifying the culprit is a sure thing.

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I dunno it's been a week. Clearly not even SE can Tank properly. No defensive CD's. For shame. ^_^p

Though why only the NA servers? Seems if some one was annoyed they would go after all servers all data centers. Part of me thinks it is the servers cause if you are really pissed at something, you are equal opportunity to the full game and data centers. Or at least that is how I would see it.
This is annoying on many levels as I went from Behemoth to Yojimbo on the Gaia dc and it was really nice over there. I came back as my friends on this server wanted me to come back. Now this mess. Honestly considering moving back over to a JP server permanently. The down side, small English speaking group and that is the only language I speak. As for ping, my ping barely went up between the NA dc and being over on the JP dc.

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Originally Posted by Elim

I vaguely remember reading something about kids basically being psychopaths up to a certain age due to their brains not being fully developed. Not sure if true or BS but it makes sense to me.

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Not psychopaths, sociopaths. Slightly different. People aren't born with any sense of right from wrong or any kind of morality, they are social constructs that have to be taught before a person can really function in society. Still, this is in relation to small children, by the time they reach school age their parents/families should have at least begun to ingrain them with basic social behaviors. I really doubt anyone capable of running a DDoS would fall into this category unless they were a clinical sociopath, which is a whole other ball of wax.

I seriously doubt they'd be saying this if it wasn't true.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

I seriously doubt they'd be saying this if it wasn't true.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...4701c3c685394f

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PR gonna PR.

It felt like a DDoS to me as it was still a major issue on NA servers to break past Raubahn Extreme and Pipin Savage for a few days longer than on the other data centers.

SE's forced bottle neck was to get people to step back and do other tasks verses spamming the NPC. It worked.

But it took 3 days longer to suddenly ease up on NA servers? I mean you can claim "Balmung and Gil hurrdurr" all you want, but it was the exact same in Primal.

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Originally Posted by hallard

So you're saying that if a lone script kiddie managed to take down one of the most popular MMOs nowadays and cause butthurt amongst hundreds of thousands of players, they WOULDN'T make a twitter account with some edgy name just to brag about how easy it was to stop a weeb catgirl game? I find that much less likely than SE managed to screw up hardcore during the move and is struggling to cover it up by claiming it's a malevolent DDOS when, in fact, they just didn't expect the normal expac playerbase to be so large.

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Well, they got data about pre-orders AND subscriptions. This isn't the 90s. They can get a report on that whenever they want. Plus, they actually moved servers because the previous ones were at it's limit. So your point makes no sense at all. It's a DDoS.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

This doesn't feel like a DDOS attack. Feels like XIV Servers can't handle themselves. Insult to injury where they decided to move NA servers to the other side of the map at the same time as an expansion. Recipe for disaster if you ask me.

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Things have been quite stable for a while now, even on the ever-crowded Balmung. This was a bunch of repeated crashing, in a short period of time, that has now stopped. Seems like someone had their fun and is done.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

PR gonna PR.

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You can continue to push your agenda but it would be pretty foolish of a company like SE to publish they are undergoing a DDOS attack when they weren't.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

You can continue to push your agenda but it would be pretty foolish of a company to publish they are undergoing a DDOS attack when they weren't.

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It would be foolish indeed!

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Things have been quite stable for a while now, even on the ever-crowded Balmung. This was a bunch of repeated crashing, in a short period of time, that has now stopped. Seems like someone had their fun and is done.

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Or SE identified a profile for the incoming DDOS packets and blocked them at their perimeter.

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Originally Posted by ChloeGrace

Really. Why?
Are they contracted by competitors to disrupt service? If so, then that's more than a little illegal. Yeah, I know. Good luck enforcing that law.

Is it for S&G? Surely there are better targets out there than an MMO.

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honestly? most of them are kids who got the program to do it. It doesn't take a lot to do it...just guts. Because it's easily traceable.

The reason why they don't get caught? Because most companies don't wish to pursue over seas legal battles.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

This doesn't feel like a DDOS attack. Feels like XIV Servers can't handle themselves. Insult to injury where they decided to move NA servers to the other side of the map at the same time as an expansion. Recipe for disaster if you ask me.

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lol, why do you play FFXIV if all you do is complain. Seriously, look at your post history. You complain all the time.

If I complained like that, i wouldnt play it. Why play something you hate? It's honestly a serious question. If I hated a product that much i wouldn't involve myself in it.

Do something that makes you happy. Complaining on forums all the time will never make you happy.

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lol, why do you play FFXIV if all you do is complain. Seriously, look at your post history. You complain all the time.

If I complained like that, i wouldnt play it. Why play something you hate? It's honestly a serious question. If I hated a product that much i wouldn't involve myself in it.

Do something that makes you happy. Complaining on forums all the time will never make you happy.

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Looking on the forums I see nothing but complaints. If it bothers you then stay off the forums and enjoy the game itself. More power to you eh?

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Looking on the forums I see nothing but complaints. If it bothers you then stay off the forums and enjoy the game itself. More power to you eh?

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That's because half the posts are yours ;)

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

This doesn't feel like a DDOS attack. Feels like XIV Servers can't handle themselves. Insult to injury where they decided to move NA servers to the other side of the map at the same time as an expansion. Recipe for disaster if you ask me.

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Thing is, they have been open and honest to us before in regards to when their servers were having issues, why lie now? Also to note that other major MMO's like Guild Wars 2 has been dealing with the same issue lately from what I have been told. I don't think they are targeting FFXIV in particular, but whatever is considered a major MMO title.