Thanks GM Iluvoratin, Hunts: Ranks A-S

How upset for early pull Rank S from ARR, it should be item level sync for Outside anywhere ARR and HW without problem? because few peoples was early pull Rank S till dead in 5 sec to 10 seconds. They are still coming for Rank S till Dead Rank S, They are really very upset. we want be fair for this good idea it should be Item Level Sync for Outside anywhere (ARR and HW) that's good fair? We got too high overgeared so fast killed Rank S in ARR for unfair early pull till die in 5-10 second. that's good idea for item Level Sync, Only Gears ARR iLv 130 and HW iLv270: (outside zones)? We want enjoy and Happy Hunters! We are!

Only Battles for syn iLv, NOT GATHERING's Syn iLv

I hope this is right one Suggestions?

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Originally Posted by ArchangelSavior

How upset for early pull Rank S from ARR, it should be item level sync for Outside anywhere ARR and HW without problem? because few peoples was early pull Rank S till dead in 5 sec to 10 seconds. They are still coming for Rank S till Dead Rank S, They are really very upset. we want be fair for this good idea it should be Item Level Sync for Outside anywhere (ARR and HW) that's good fair? We got too high overgeared so fast killed Rank S in ARR for unfair early pull till die in 5-10 second. that's good idea for item Level Sync, Only Gears ARR iLv 130 and HW iLv270: (outside zones)? We want enjoy and Happy Hunters! We are!

Only Battles for syn iLv, NOT GATHERING's Syn iLv

I hope this is right one Suggestions?

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Or perhaps the playerbase can play the game as intended and leave ARR and HW hunts to the players of that area/level and focus the hunts more meant for them? Argument can go either way.

i think if you want to give some sort of ilvl sync to hunts then they should just make em FATEs tbh :>

or sync ilvl based on area, ARR areas lv50 max, HW areas lv60 max, SB areas lv70 max...but this may lead to some problems with certain quests that involve open world battles andd things like that, for example like what it happens usually on main scenario quests

Because some "missing" Rank A from ARR and HW because of Player Solo killed them, I can see it http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/HuntTracker/ that's why it's happened, we are overgeared, and Don't need for Level 50 to 60, no matter just iLv gears if FFXIV make up system Level or not, only for SYN, FFXIV Workers (GMs) have up to, both Syn and (Level 50 ARR - 60 HW or Not) but more important about ARR and HW need Syn too because we had overgeared so much that's why because some Solo Players killed Rank A from ARR and HW it's not fair.... we looked anywhere hard work.... now Ariyala website said "Missing" We have no idea who did killed it and how long open Rank As yet....

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Originally Posted by OniKimoto

Or perhaps the playerbase can play the game as intended and leave ARR and HW hunts to the players of that area/level and focus the hunts more meant for them? Argument can go either way.

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They intended for all players to go after them when they put the speed upgrades behind them. We're forced to obliterate the weak ARR hunts to get allied seals because there's no other way to get them.

I heard LS Hunts, some solo players killed them that's how!

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Originally Posted by Mirch

or sync ilvl based on area, ARR areas lv50 max, HW areas lv60 max, SB areas lv70 max...but this may lead to some problems with certain quests that involve open world battles andd things like that, for example like what it happens usually on main scenario quests

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Simple way to do it could be to offer a level sync option for the entire area (for ARR regions that would be 50, for HW regions 60, SB regions 70 when the next expansion comes out). Like an area-wide FATE. Now if you try attacking or healing a FATE related target when you're not level synced it says you're too high to interact with the FATE. If you heal someone partaking in a FATE and you're not level synced you get no credit for it. Perhaps a similar system could work here for hunts?

I honestly feel like the older hunts are too rewarding for how little effort is involved in killing them these days, so having to level sync so they actually put up a fight again would be a good move, IMO.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

We're forced to obliterate the weak ARR hunts to get allied seals because there's no other way to get them.

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Daily and weekly hunt marks?
Besides, what can you use allied seals on that isn't horribly obsolete, or purely for glamour? I only use them when I need a boost in company seals for relic or airship parts.

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Originally Posted by OniKimoto

Or perhaps the playerbase can play the game as intended and leave ARR and HW hunts to the players of that area/level and focus the hunts more meant for them? Argument can go either way.

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I'm pretty sure even old hunts drop verity tomestones and count towards tiger mount. They are meant for everyone.

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Originally Posted by ChloeGrace

Daily and weekly hunt marks?
Besides, what can you use allied seals on that isn't horribly obsolete, or purely for glamour? I only use them when I need a boost in company seals for relic or airship parts.

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It would be nice if SE removed the FATE boss marks from ARR daily hunts. Then I wouldn't mind hunting for a measly 64 allied seals a day. Sucks when you get stuck waiting on a boss FATE for an hour.

Personally, I prefer hunts being first come, first serve and actually hate the waiting for people that didn't bother to hunt to show up and reap the rewards from others. I still mark down kills, because no one likes their time wasted, but those ARR riding maps are really valuable.

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Originally Posted by ArchangelSavior

Because some "missing" Rank A from ARR and HW because of Player Solo killed them, I can see it http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/HuntTracker/ that's why it's happened, we are overgeared, and Don't need for Level 50 to 60, no matter just iLv gears if FFXIV make up system Level or not, only for SYN, FFXIV Workers (GMs) have up to, both Syn and (Level 50 ARR - 60 HW or Not) but more important about ARR and HW need Syn too because we had overgeared so much that's why because some Solo Players killed Rank A from ARR and HW it's not fair.... we looked anywhere hard work.... now Ariyala website said "Missing" We have no idea who did killed it and how long open Rank As yet....

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Deal with it

There's no game-specific problem with someone pulling an overworld mob when they are ready for it.
While social obligations may stop many, it's still 100% fair game for anyone there. There's no such thing as an "early" pull. If you weren't there looking for it and actually hunting, then if you've missed it you were too slow.

And yeah it kinda sucks hunting for an A rank when someone already sniped it, I've been there. But again it's fair game and no use complaining about.

or maybe they can just give all hunt monsters loads more hp

A (diminutive) dedicated team looking over and tweaking the state of older content after a major patch is released... now that would be something to brag about wouldn't it? :)

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

or maybe they can just give all hunt monsters loads more hp

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At least with the level 50 mobs, they hit like such a wet noodle I can solo them with infinite sustain (for the rare times I do have to Clemency, I will easily get the mana back before I need to do another). They'll just take longer, but if I don't announce it I can still most likely solo it. And if you make them hit harder, you risk them one-shotting even the level 50 tanks. Level sync is the answer if you ask me.

no such thing as early pulling.

you either kill it or not. People are nice enough to wait 5 min, but shouldn't be forced to. :)

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Originally Posted by Canadane

There's no game-specific problem with someone pulling an overworld mob when they are ready for it.
While social obligations may stop many, it's still 100% fair game for anyone there. There's no such thing as an "early" pull. If you weren't there looking for it and actually hunting, then if you've missed it you were too slow.

And yeah it kinda sucks hunting for an A rank when someone already sniped it, I've been there. But again it's fair game and no use complaining about.

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No someone pull early Rank S, they are still coming for Rank S, Rank S dead now, they got upset and stress because they are still coming to Rank S, they did not know Rank S already died in 5 - 10 second in ARR and HW, they are still coming with not ready. (End of Story)

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Originally Posted by OniKimoto

Or perhaps the playerbase can play the game as intended and leave ARR and HW hunts to the players of that area/level and focus the hunts more meant for them? Argument can go either way.

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Dude people still need them for 2 star speeds so gotta realize that.

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Originally Posted by DemonwrathDeathreign

Dude people still need them for 2 star speeds so gotta realize that.

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that's right and Seal for VI Mats too!

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Originally Posted by OniKimoto

Or perhaps the playerbase can play the game as intended and leave ARR and HW hunts to the players of that area/level and focus the hunts more meant for them? Argument can go either way.

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So if you ever have jobs over lvl 50, dont do these hunts because they are not meant for you? :confused:

No DRG for party, camp spot site with 30 dmg, but is it for 20 like 30 dmg when you no hit be it for dd, for 30 dmg instead? or half is 10 for 20 dmg?

I guess we should start asking if anyone needs regular open world mobs or every single fate then, since we might be accused of early pulling and all.

I just want to pop in and say that GM Iluvoratin is awesome. I've talked with them in the past about some in game issues and they were very helpful.

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Originally Posted by ChloeGrace

Daily and weekly hunt marks?
Besides, what can you use allied seals on that isn't horribly obsolete, or purely for glamour? I only use them when I need a boost in company seals for relic or airship parts.

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Aetheryte tickets. You wind up saving a lot keeping a consistent stack of those.

They simply need to scale the ARR hunts upward or scale us down, otherwise people will continue to murder them in seconds. I mean, why not? You can solo every ARR hunt regardless of rank now.

No. F no. I rather enjoy seeing hunts and smashing them in the face on sight. It's open world and thus my right. Put on your big boy pants and travel with a group if you want the hunt yourself. Don't sit with your thumb up your butt and wait for some LS to do the leg work.

You dont cry early pulling when you see a group of mobs do you? It's an open world enemy all the same.

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Originally Posted by Clethoria

No. F no. I rather enjoy seeing hunts and smashing them in the face on sight. It's open world and thus my right. Put on your big boy pants and travel with a group if you want the hunt yourself. Don't sit with your thumb up your butt and wait for some LS to do the leg work.

You dont cry early pulling when you see a group of mobs do you? It's an open world enemy all the same.

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Not a good comparison since early mobs respawn within minutes not days. And let's not kid ourselves here. While plenty of hunters legitimately hunt, many use certain programs that call out when they spawn and where.

Just level up all hunts to be level 70. There, we've fixed the problem. Kinda hard to take things down in 5 seconds if their stats are high enough to where that's only taking off around 10-20% of their health.

Witnessed this personally...maybe half a dozen of us were at the timed node to spawn Croque, "we" (I don't know all of them, just my LS leader) spawn it, it pops directly behind us, and the player who was the first to hit the node and change to a combat job hits the ubergoober as soon as the call goes out. Literally that second or maybe the second after.

Such a thing cannot be corrected by the player base because of those few who choose to ascribe scarcity value to the tiger mount ("It's more valuable because I have it and others do not.") when the supply should theoretically be unlimited ("Everybody can have one, given enough time and effort."). Nothing short of a mechanical barrier, ie. a 60-second period of invulnerability immediately following spawn for S-Ranks, is going to alter this.

Oh! Aetheryte Ticket too for free teleport.

Ahh another hunt thread... I wonder if the devs even care that players get at each other's throats. Yes we all know the problems... Early pullers, non-scaled kills, respawn timers, Guildworks, LS leeches and deadbeats who join linkshells but then barely participate except when S ranks are called out, etc etc etc... yawn... next.

Reality is, if you found/triggered the hunt, you do whatever you want. It's your right to do so. Wait or pull, your choice.

To the frustrated ones left with the short end of the proverbial hunt stick, keep posting threads like this. Direct your frustrations to Yoshi P and Co. They are the source, not the ones who left you a carcass on the landscape.

There's no such thing as pulling too early, only arriving too late.

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Originally Posted by OniKimoto

Or perhaps the playerbase can play the game as intended and leave ARR and HW hunts to the players of that area/level and focus the hunts more meant for them? Argument can go either way.

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You know our community isn't that clever. As long as they can get something from it it's a soloplayer game.

ARR S ranks really should take a bit longer to kill, considering that they're arguably more valuable then HW S ranks now due to the scarcity of Allied seals coupled with them giving the same amount of verity and poetics.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

ARR S ranks really should take a bit longer to kill, considering that they're arguably more valuable then HW S ranks now due to the scarcity of Allied seals coupled with them giving the same amount of verity and poetics.

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I honestly see no problem with scaling A/S ranks to 70 difficulty. A hunt's a hunt and A ranks are one of the easiest kills. Just RIP any newbie running out of Quarymill that gets slapped by Cthulhuflayer.

There's no such thing as early pulling if it dies within 5 seconds. No way is everyone getting credit for that

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Originally Posted by Velthice

There's no such thing as pulling too early, only arriving too late.

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If my example of pulling within five seconds of spawn does not qualify as "early," then perhaps we should change this to "If you weren't camping it with the rest of us, then you don't get a share of the spoils." If a person hears the call go out, drops everything, races there as fast as their computer will take them and it's still "too late," then just get rid of the "arriving" part, and the call as well. Maybe by next expansion, ARR S-Ranks will be soloable. By then, if no mechanism is in place to increase their longevity, SE might as well slash the spawn timers down to a fraction of their original length, at which point ARR-S's will be the new ARR-A's, where it only gets called and marked dead if the person who found it enjoys being helpful. But at least that way, there will (potentially) be more to go around for everyone.

and Thanks for moved in here

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Originally Posted by ArchangelSavior

No someone pull early Rank S, they are still coming for Rank S, Rank S dead now, they got upset and stress because they are still coming to Rank S, they did not know Rank S already died in 5 - 10 second in ARR and HW, they are still coming with not ready. (End of Story)

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There is no such thing as "early pull" - this has been confirmed time an again. Early pulling is a figment of the player's imagination, unlike the entitlement that says that a group should delay while server + dog shows up to take full credit for something they didn't find That entitlement is very real.

Early pulling simply isn't a thing. Hunts exist to be found and downed. The first group of any size to find a mark can down it if they so choose, whether it be a solo player or a group.

I actually ran into an A rank in Central Thanlan last week, no one else was around, I don't belong to any hunt LS, and my FC buddies were offline or busy. So I had a go. It killed me, which just made me mad. So I came back and tried again, this time it went down. I didn't do that to deprive anyone else of the mark, or any other silly reason like that. I did it because no one else was around, it was there, and I liked the challenge of killing it. It allowed me to get some revenge for the times when my low level alts have been eaten by A and s rank hunts spawning in starter locations. This mark too was in a starter location, so if nothing else I removed a menace.

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

There's no such thing as early pulling if it dies within 5 seconds. No way is everyone getting credit for that

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Including those who actually found the thing.

They should just either add allied seals to every hunt mob or reduce the respawn time so that they are up far more often.