Deltascape design problems

I think, that some battles in the Omega raid have problems with design and these problems make trouble for melee DPS and their positional attacks.
--- First battle- the problem of positional attacks, when the boss comes very close to the wall. Impossible to make a rear positional attack. Possible solution- the boss must be not too close to the wall
---Second battle, when the floor becomes black, the circle under the boss becomes invisible (I have a white color). Possible solution- to fix the circle, it must be above the black mist, not under
---Fourth battle. The boss's coat blocks the sight and the round under the boss almost impossible to see. Possible solution- to make the coat twice shorter

I think, that these problems must be fixed

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For the first Boss: It's his mechanic. He tries to push the group to the center (later with fireballs), so if there is a possible way to go behind the boss, then this mechanic would be useless. It's better to attack him with less potency from the front or flank then no damage. They could have made him disappear and placed him out of the arena and non attackable. It's ok and it's not last forverer. (20 seconds or so? maybe less).

Second boss: the front is where the eye is. I don't need a ring with a tip on it to figuere it out.

Fourth Boss: The back is, where the cape is. The flank is where the arms are.

As for the first boss- maybe I can agree. About circles- they were created to see the target position and rotation and if a bad design, making trouble to see this circle clear and clean is good for you, it is not good for me and for lots of players, Im sure

I can understand your point.

If Catastroph uses his purple goo move, the player is supposed to hit the float button, so if the player won't hit it and doing his rotation, he'll die anyway. After floating, the effect of the purple goo is gone and the indicator is visible. It's a matter of seconds. So this I wouldn't bother around.

ExDeath, ok, his cape is long. There could be some changes, but

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Possible solution- to make the coat twice shorter

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would looks really stupid on a badass like ExDeath. Let's say maybe a tick shorter to see the circle :)

Or... the circle could be made larger to show without having to change the boss design for ExDeath.

I kinda like the challenge of working through these mechanics.

None of them are all-the-time.
Even the cape moves and you can make sure you're 'guessing' at the right places when it covers it again.

I would be sad if the cloak got shortened, it adds to his look!

I do see your point though, you want to move the least amount possible between rear/side flanks but for these instances you either have to eat the kenki loss on the times where you can't hit a positional (like the first boss) or you have to exaggerate your positionals in order to make sure you are hitting them (like on Exdeath)

Edit: Can use True North on first boss too, not sure if it is up for every time he does that mechanic though

Hmmm first seems like a tank positioning problem to me, I tank it on the side mainly for back attack access or a bit in. Second I don't get that and seems like a camera issue can easily be adjusted to show. Third , really a cape issue? People don't need to be fully stack on boss so kind of pointless. As long as they can target and move a bit they are fine. I rather have them focus on more content then small things.

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Originally Posted by ManuelBravo

Hmmm first seems like a tank positioning problem to me, I tank it on the side mainly for back attack access or a bit in.

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it can't be turned while it's readying that attack.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

it can't be turned while it's readying that attack.

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I've tanked it several times, tanks can time the attacks before they happen based on patterns. At least with parties I've been in. I've done DPS and Tanking and find my self tanking more often do to many tanks not properly positioning. gets irritating when tanks don't listen or get offended for people giving them tips. :/

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Originally Posted by ZerofraZ

Possible solution- to make the coat twice shorter

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Y...you mean half as long? "Twice shorter" literally makes no sense.

Also Exdeath has a VERY specific design. They are not going to shorten his cape.

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Why do you need the ring for positionals anyway? Its obvious where the back and flanks are on both these bosses.

Why don't you just use true north ? (Don't play melee job but I thought the point of that skill was to use in times when it's hard to do positional properly.)

My only issue with his Cape is it hides the markers for fire 3, it happened once when I 'collided' with another melee and we both died.
My own fault really, though I haven't let it happen again <.<

Someone else mentioned this, but this is pretty much what True North is for out of the DPS shared skills. Now granted I've only done this fight one time on my initial clear, but this seems like a tailor made use for this skill.

The others, I get your point, especially on the 2nd boss, but Exdeath is pretty obvious which way it's facing without the need for the circle

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

Why don't you just use true north ? (Don't play melee job but I thought the point of that skill was to use in times when it's hard to do positional properly.)

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Several people have mentioned True North here - the ability is on a 2.5 minute cooldown, so it won't always be available. Since many of the bosses also have other mechanics where they face a random direction (or face a party stack), using True North just to ensure regular positionals is kind of a waste.

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Originally Posted by Sieben79

Second boss: the front is where the eye is. I don't need a ring with a tip on it to figuere it out.

Fourth Boss: The back is, where the cape is. The flank is where the arms are.

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A lot of melee don't actually move a full 90 degrees to hit their positionals - it's more efficient to ride the corner where the Flank/Rear meet to minimize movement. The most reliable way to distinguish that is the targeting ring, so if the ring is covered, it either becomes a guessing game, or forces extra movement. It's a bigger issue for the second boss since it's a spherical blob - if as a melee you can see the eye, you're likely standing in the wrong place.

While not exactly a fix, a work-around for the 2nd boss would be to have the tank mark himself, then you'll always know where the boss is facing. It's always going to be facing the tank unless it's doing it's look-away cast during the tentacles, in which case you should be moving to the safe spot anyway.