Patch Notes are up!!

Go forth! Discuss! Tanks, NIN, and BRD get buffs!
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...75523012584b54

-ugly cries- NIN was doing fine. Where are my DRG buffs? My SCH buffs?!

The NIN change isn't really a buff due to the damage type bugfix.

I always thought SAM and RDM would get a slight nerf since they can snag the aggro from tanks early on (especially RDM) much easier than any other DPS.
But with the enmity buff for tank assume the SAM and RDM are safe for now.

No housing smh.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

No housing smh.

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We've known for a long time that it's not coming until sometime during the 4.1 era...

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

I always thought SAM and RDM would get a slight nerf since they can snag the aggro from tanks early on (especially RDM) much easier than any other DPS.
But with the enmity buff for tank assume the SAM and RDM are safe for now.

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They were always safe, they had Diversion. The ones who refused to use it were just doing the group a disservice.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

No housing smh.

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Housing was confirmed for 4.1/4.1x, why are you setting yourself up for disappointment?

Looks like Magitek predator mount is from normal mode, I was expecting it to be from Savage.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

They were always safe, they had Diversion. The ones who refused to use it were just doing the group a disservice.



Housing was confirmed for 4.1/4.1x, why are you setting yourself up for disappointment?

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Source? ....

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Originally Posted by Valinis

Source? ....

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Originally Posted by Rita1989

No it wasn't we are getting it in the 4.0 series sometime.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...4r&sh=e92cdd4d

"Famitsu: Information on Shirogane was missing in the PLL, but when will it be implemented?
Yoshida: It's a while away, so you won't have to worry about that yet.
Famitsu: In other words, do you mean to release it in patch 4.2?
Yoshida: No, I won't wait until patch 4.2. I think it will be somewhere in patch 4.1."

Really? BRD and PLD buffs? No DRG buffs? No SCH buffs? No changes to PI for WHM? These WAR buffs are minimal and not really what they need. This patch is a joke.

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...4r&sh=e92cdd4d

" 4.1 is planned for about 3.5 months after launch."

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Thank you. I fail to see how Yoshi stating "I think" is a confirmed date however.

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Originally Posted by rjspencer4

Looks like Magitek predator mount is from normal mode, I was expecting it to be from Savage.

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I'm still betting on it being cash shop. Can't tell yet though seeing how the optional item section is undergoing maintenance.

Seems like HW again. Here a 5 weeks proposal based on the assumption the tokens drop as in HW:

https://pastebin.com/jPR3YPV5

My g/f and I read the notes , she happy about the drk buffs. We talked as she is frustrated at the tank changes SB, even considered a break or even switch to play eso. She even stated "bloodspiller hit hard, now it just hits harder
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I'm excited too as drk was gonna be my next job I level up. I just hope this fixes drk some at least, and here is hoping people do start using their enmity reducers, and healer just stop letting tanks die on trash mobs.

I never expected anything but Omega from this patch. The tank stuff seems like a emergency band-aid fix to me. (That won't solve the underlining problem btw..)

Anyone expecting much more from this patch is setting themselves up for disappointment.

4.1 however....

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

Really? BRD and PLD buffs? No DRG buffs? No SCH buffs? No changes to PI for WHM? These WAR buffs are minimal and not really what they need. This patch is a joke.

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They said in the patch notes more changes are coming probably prior to savage

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Originally Posted by Laerad3993

I'm still betting on it being cash shop. Can't tell yet though seeing how the optional item section is undergoing maintenance.

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oh.....this does not bode well

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

Really? BRD and PLD buffs? No DRG buffs? No SCH buffs? No changes to PI for WHM? These WAR buffs are minimal and not really what they need. This patch is a joke.

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tanks needed the buffs. Due to the str revert, they don't hold enmity well. I've seen drg and no one has complained. Whm is also fine. just adjust to the changes.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

Thank you. I fail to see how Yoshi stating "I think" is a confirmed date however.

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"No, I won't wait until patch 4.2." is what confirms it's 4.1/4.1x?

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

Really? BRD and PLD buffs? No DRG buffs? No SCH buffs? No changes to PI for WHM? These WAR buffs are minimal and not really what they need. This patch is a joke.

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Those changes aren't coming until 4.05, where they've got enough data from Omega (Normal) to assert what kind of buffs/changes are required.

The only thing Yoshida actually said was that housing wouldn't be available at release and they'd make it available shortly after to give people time to go through the MSQ and not feel they had to rush just to get a house.

2 weeks/4 weeks/4.1/etc is all speculation by the player base. There is no official release date for it yet. Releasing it now would have been in line with Yoshi's statements. Releasing it in 4.05 or 4.1 is just as likely.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

"No, I won't wait until patch 4.2." is what confirms it's 4.1/4.1x?

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In what way does that not include 4.0?

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Originally Posted by Tristann

Seems like HW again. Here a 5 weeks proposal based on the assumption the tokens drop as in HW:

https://pastebin.com/jPR3YPV5

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Thanks for the link.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

In what way does that not include 4.0?

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Do you have evidence that we don't that it is coming in 4.0? So far, all we know points to 4.1-4.1x, not 4.0. And not 4.2, either. Logic and common sense would dictate 4.1-4.1x.

Omega drops are functionally identical to Alexander even down to the item names. I had a really strong feeling omega would function just like Alex but damn. Back to collecting bolts, pedals, and cranks it is!

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Originally Posted by ErryK

Do you have proof that it is coming in 4.0? So far, all we know points to 4.1-4.1x, not 4.0. And not 4.2, either. Logic and common sense would dictate 4.1-4.1x.

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You're the one with all the proof of it being 4.1, I never claimed it to be in 4.0 like you are pretending I did. Nothing is pointing to anything except Yoshi's "I think". You don't even know how many patches will be in the 4.0 series.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

You're the one with all the proof of it being 4.1, I never claimed it to be in 4.0 like you are pretending I did. Nothing is pointing to anything except Yoshi's "I think". You don't even know how many patches will be in the 4.0 series.

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{/facepalm}, sure, whatever floats your boat.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

{/facepalm}, sure, whatever floats your boat.

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You're the one who started throwing claims left and right with no proof. Don't get salty now.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

You're the one who started throwing claims left and right with no proof. Don't get salty now.

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What claim? We have word from the director/producer that it's coming 4.1-4.1x, whether you want to tinfoil your way into believing it's otherwise is up to you, cuz like I said, whatever floats your boat, seeing as you're the one stating that it's coming in a 4.0x patch.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

What claim? We have word from the director/producer that it's coming 4.1-4.1x, whether you want to tinfoil your way into believing it's otherwise is up to you, cuz like I said, whatever floats your boat, seeing as you're the one stating that it's coming in a 4.0x patch.

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He said "I think", do you even know what that means? It's like you assume that something someone said months ago will stay true forever.

Wow you are unreal. I never claimed it was coming in the 4.0 series.

Well, they fixed the issue where AFK in PvP did not actually harm the bottom line of other players.
You now actually benefit your party by trying...

But the underlying problem of not being able to level grind / tome grind in enough open world ways,
thus being thrust into the mind numbing cycle of speed running instanced crap still remains.
And so i will still not vote to kick any player who AFK's in PvP, because honestly, we should all just stand around for 20 minutes and watch Netflix.

Hopefully Eureka proves to be the first step in solving this most glaring issue in the game.... hopefully.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

He said "I think", do you even know what that means? It's like you assume that something someone said months ago will stay true forever.

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I know what "I think" means, but it's all we have to go off of. But like I said, if you wanna tinfoil your way into believing it's 4.0x, go ahead, you're only setting yourself up for disappointment. When 4.1-4.1x hits and we get Shirogane housing, I'll be enjoying the schadenfreude.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

Wow you are unreal. I never claimed it was coming in the 4.0 series.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

In what way does that not include 4.0?

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In other words, since you clearly don't understand, you're basically stating "What excuses 4.0 since he said he thinks it's gonna be 4.1?", basically stating that it could come in 4.0x.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

but it's all we have to go off of.

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That makes it 100% true and accurate right.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

That makes it 100% true and accurate right.

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More accurate than tinfoiling. I'm done, clearly common sense is lacking.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

More accurate than tinfoiling.

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Tinfoiling because I don't trust an "I think"? Ok buddy.

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Originally Posted by BigRed5392

they can't really revert the change, they took out the vit reduction from weakness. Tenacity does more then boost attack btw, it boosts attack def and how much you get healed for.

Also insulting the company like that is against the forum rules. I get your angry, but saying the above is petty. As we wouldn't be in ff14 if yoshida didn't take over.

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The problem with tenacity is that it scales terribly, so you want to avoid it as much as possible. It's functionally identical to parry in that regard.

I'm hoping that the "adjustments to the strength of open world enemies" isn't referring to nerfing hunt marks. The only two I feel could use some adjustments one way or another are Oni Yumemi due to how absurdly murderous its Ice/Shock Spikes are to melee and melee only and Aqrabuamelu's Deadly Thrust hitting like a wet noodle.

I do think the damage output of some standard enemies could use a nerf, though, especially certain humanoid NPCs. I'm nearly getting killed in just 1v1 situations against some of the Au Ra NPCs at the steppe without my chocobo helping me.

That famitsu article, at least, confirms that Shirogane will be released no earlier than 4.1, and will likely be released during the 4.1 series, rather than immediately at 4.1. Which I think is a great thing. We also know that there will be a live letter coming up on July 15th, which will, hopefully, give us some answers on Shirogane.

I didn't read the posts except for the first one, but.... SERIOUSLY, nothing for SCH. FRICK!!!!

I'll read and update my post later, T.T

So I read the patch notes, nothing else out of the ordinary, though i wonder why they still use the crank, shaft, spring, method for tokens; though i guess Omega is still a machine so it works.

Oh and coining it now O1, O2, O3, O4, lol

But seriously... NO SCHOLAR CHANGES!!!!! We Suck, FIX US, T.T

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Originally Posted by BigRed5392

they can't really revert the change, they took out the vit reduction from weakness. Tenacity does more then boost attack btw, it boosts attack def and how much you get healed for.

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They can revert it though. They can just change weakness to apply an Attack Power and Magic Attack Power debuff rather than targeting stats. Right now, tanks don't really get any real power boost with their accessories.

Tenacity also has horribly scaling to the point where we want to avoid it like parry.