What's the point of Ninja stealth (and trick attack) anymore?

It's an awkward opener (due to speed debuff) and useless thereafter, I'm surprised it didn't get cut with all of the other worthless abilities.

During trash it slows you down and only applies to one target: Useless

During boss: One short debuff and that's it, essentially worthless.

Ummmmm.................What? First of all trick isn't used on trash, we have AOE skills for that. Secondly how you can describe a 10% increase in damage for the whole party several times during a boss fight worthless I'll never know.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

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^^^^^This exactly

I mean you're not likely to use hide for trick attack so much so as to refresh your ninjitsu cd between pulls. Also it's a bit of flavor for the job outside of dungeons/raids.

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Originally Posted by Tsubaki75

Ummmmm.................What? First of all trick isn't used on trash, we have AOE skills for that. Secondly how you can describe a 10% increase in damage for the whole party several times during a boss fight worthless I'll never know.

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The trash comment was to make a point. It's worthless there and in boss fights unless maybe I'm misunderstanding? How do you use stealth and trick attack when you can't use it in combat? It's an opener and nothing more unless there's a way to use hide in combat.

You don't, Suiton applies the "hidden" status and trick is used after. So in combat it is used after a ninjutsu

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Originally Posted by Tsubaki75

You don't, Suiton applies the "hidden" status and trick is used after. So in combat it is used after a ninjutsu

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Yep, there goes the derp. Well, son of a....

No worries M8

The positional requirement on Trick Attack's debuff still bugs me with how prone bosses/hunts are to spinning/turning in SB,

Granted, we have True North and all, but that's only usable every three minutes.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

The positional requirement on Trick Attack's debuff still bugs me with how prone bosses/hunts are to spinning/turning in SB,

Granted, we have True North and all, but that's only usable every three minutes.

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They could always just remove positionals all together from the game which is what I thought they would do but they decided to keep it in the game for some odd reason.

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Originally Posted by Inosaska

They could always just remove positionals all together from the game which is what I thought they would do but they decided to keep it in the game for some odd reason.

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Mnks just would love that hmm....

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Originally Posted by Inosaska

They could always just remove positionals all together from the game which is what I thought they would do but they decided to keep it in the game for some odd reason.

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While I would love positional to be gone. Might actually find monk more fun without them. Getting trick attack up is pretty easy.

And if the boss is prone to spinning in circles the "true north" role skill is your best friend. It removes all positional requirements including trick attacks

Theres something else that you use in combat that lets you do the Trick Attack move.
1-target boss: SUITON. (which is Ten-Chi-Jin or Chi-Ten-Jin)
Multiple bosses aka AOE: HUTON (which is Ji-Chi-Ten or Chi-Ji-Ten)

When you do those, it lets you do the Trick Attack move , just like if u would have used Hide. But Hide, doesnt work in combat. Hide is mostly for the outer world when you're by yourself. But not in combat. And yes, do your trick attack move (after your Suiton or Huton in battle). Gives good damage.

Hope that explains it :)