a general questoin

Hello everyone, I just watched noclip vids about 14 and how it went far from 1.0 and how epic they solved the problems but…am I the only one who got…disappointed when Yoshi-p stated that ‘’I never want to make it so that you have to play14 continuously and have to log in everyday’’&‘’avoid forcing people to play because everyone is busy’’? is he trying to say that we don’t care about the people who puts time and money to this game and care about the busy people who doesn’t play our game? if that’s true that’s explain why we didn’t had a real endgame content in HW other than savage but I really hope Yoshi-p will give us more reasons to stay login in and never make comments like that because its really unrespectful to your player base. its really sad that you are trying to say that to who helped you build this game and stuck with you during1.0.not just clearing the content then what ? going to play another game. I really hope Yoshi will change his mind soon :( what do you guys think?

I would guess it's more of a reference to older, more grind heavy MMOs such as FFXI. I loved FFXI but if you weren't putting in a bare minimum of 20 hours a week with 40 hours or more per week being preferable, then you were probably not progressing in any meaningful way at endgame. That kind of lifestyle is unsustainable for pretty much everyone in the long term as outside needs will always catch up.

He was talking about how FFXIV is a Theme Park MMO, not a Sandbox. It isn't disrespectful, it is honesty.

It's why I love XIV to begin with. I don't feel pressured to be logged in everyday.

He doesn't want you to have to.

whats the problem of adding content like that these days to your player? to me this type of content will make the community grow and be together not just trying to find a static to do savage with , cuz only svg needs some type of grp to get a clear in a respectful time but the other content its just there to be there without a real meaning or feeling like an achivment to get it :/

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Originally Posted by Dement

I would guess it's more of a reference to older, more grind heavy MMOs such as FFXI. I loved FFXI but if you weren't putting in a bare minimum of 20 hours a week with 40 hours or more per week being preferable, then you were probably not progressing in any meaningful way at endgame. That kind of lifestyle is unsustainable for pretty much everyone in the long term as outside needs will always catch up.

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i got that he doesnt like ffxi type of mmo and cant work in this generation but really whats the problem in giving us content that will make people with time enjoying it until the next content is there and doesnt make adjustment for the people who doesnt play this game cuz they was busy playing another game xD

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Originally Posted by chromo

i got that he doesnt like ffxi type of mmo and cant work in this generation but really whats the problem in giving us content that will make people with time enjoying it until the next content is there and doesnt make adjustment for the people who doesnt play this game cuz they was busy playing another game xD

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Because it's terribly difficult to balance rewards vs. effort. If you implement this type of content, the rewards would have to be relevant to the effort so the rewards would have to be top tier items. Then that trickles down to other content where other players insist that you must have the grind items in order to take part in other activities (Savage, Primals, non-grindy stuff). If you don't implement top tier items for that kind of effort than the amount of people who will do it is so insignificant that you may as well not have bothered to begin with.

Also I don't play 24/7 because of real life, not because I'm playing another game. I'm not in college anymore and have a wife, a child, a job, a social circle and responsibilities. I can't put in more time than I already do to this game. If they implemented something akin to the older style MMOs, I simply wouldn't play anymore as I could never devote the time necessary to progress.

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Also I don't play 24/7 because of real life, not because I'm playing another game. I'm not in college anymore and have a wife, a child, a job, a social circle and responsibilities. I can't put in more time than I already do to this game. If they implemented something akin to the older style MMOs, I simply wouldn't play anymore as I could never devote the time necessary to progress.

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i respect your family and your time but it doesnt mean you cant add content like this cuz maybe some people will not get time for it cuz even savage need time to clear it too

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Originally Posted by chromo

Hello everyone, I just watched noclip vids about 14 and how it went far from 1.0 and how epic they solved the problems but…am I the only one who got…disappointed when Yoshi-p stated that ‘’I never want to make it so that you have to play14 continuously and have to log in everyday’’&‘’avoid forcing people to play because everyone is busy’’? is he trying to say that we don’t care about the people who puts time and money to this game and care about the busy people who doesn’t play our game? if that’s true that’s explain why we didn’t had a real endgame content in HW other than savage but I really hope Yoshi-p will give us more reasons to stay login in and never make comments like that because its really unrespectful to your player base. its really sad that you are trying to say that to who helped you build this game and stuck with you during1.0.not just clearing the content then what ? going to play another game. I really hope Yoshi will change his mind soon :( what do you guys think?

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I think you are interpreting his comments in a completely wrong manner.

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I never want to make it so that you have to play14 continuously and have to log in everyday...
...avoid forcing people to play because everyone is busy

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Quite the opposite to your interpretation, Yoshi-P is showing great respect for players because he won't make a game that makes it so that you have to (as in must) play continuously, or even login every day, or content that forces people to play; he's saying he won't do that because people generally are already quite busy. He is in effect saying that out of respect for our own health and well being he doesn't want to, and won't implement a game that uses the psychological hooks that force players to be there continuously, every day and feel that they are obligated, or forced to be there - at the expense of sleep, health, social life, work, and real life obligations. Frankly I find that a relatively enlightened approach.

He's not in any way disrespecting players. I'd also say that the never-ending buffet of content that we have had in FFXIV quite cleanly satisfies your hope that Yoshi and team will give us more reasons to stay with the game.

I think you are off base and are misunderstanding not only what was said, but also the intent behind it.

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He's not in any way disrespecting players. I'd also say that the never-ending buffet of content that we have had in FFXIV quite cleanly satisfies your hope that Yoshi and team will give us more reasons to stay with the game.

I think you are off base and are misunderstanding not only what was said, but also the intent behind it.

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i rly hope so