POTD floor 200 solo

So I know no one has done it yet...but I'm curious about the save files, do we still have to not die to get past 100? I am asking cause I've made mistakes went out and reset my save. I'm curious if they said anything about this and further wasted my time, otherwise it doesn't matter to me outside of knowing if they snuck it in or nah. (This is mainly cause they added that floor 200 solo achievement and that title is godlike but I kind of fear no one will be able to even do it) This is also in no way me asking them to do this or anything.

I assume you get the achievement by doing 1-200 in one go with no deaths, similar to the 1-100 achievement.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

I assume you get the achievement by doing 1-200 in one go with no deaths, similar to the 1-100 achievement.

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See that's part of why I fear no one will be able to do it is all I'm saying, cause as far as I know, no one has done it yet.

Unless they somewhat nerfed the bosses, certain bosses like certain meteor spam boss were literally impossible to solo due to lack of dps before the consecutive meteors splattered you on the ground

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Originally Posted by Bhearil

Unless they somewhat nerfed the bosses, certain bosses like certain meteor spam boss were literally impossible to solo due to lack of dps before the consecutive meteors splattered you on the ground

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And this was the other reason...lol even Reddit was saying that hands down Behemoth will be the gate, because even 4 man parties most of the time are killing him during the second cast.

The two frontrunners for being able to do it, Summoner and Warrior, have both been gutted in 4.0, so it's even less possible now. I don't think anyone is gonna clear beyond the 170ies.

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Originally Posted by Bhearil

Unless they somewhat nerfed the bosses, certain bosses like certain meteor spam boss were literally impossible to solo due to lack of dps before the consecutive meteors splattered you on the ground

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I dunno, the Sustain might be strong enough to keep the person alive if they are on the nose when applying it. Otherwise the strategy would be to make sure you hold off your burst dmg until that final moment making sure you don't use it at a moment when it won't be accessible to you.

they nerfed all floors and bosses and they implemented sustaining potions

I havent been inside yet, but I guess they made it easier
there are also some redmages that reached floor 161 and some samurais that reached 160

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Originally Posted by Rhyn

The two frontrunners for being able to do it, Summoner and Warrior, have both been gutted in 4.0, so it's even less possible now. I don't think anyone is gonna clear beyond the 170ies.

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Paladin would seem the most capable option now. It was already one of the better options, just lacking DPS before.

As one player who is trying to get that done, I can tell that even Palladins will have a rough time. Their Damage Output on 60 is not as much higher as needed for palace of the dead, so they will have to watch their timers and reach the exit asap.

red mage and samurai are most likely slaughter machines, but when vercure will get nerfed (thanks to summoners complaining about physick) it will get even tougher.

So basically, if you wanna clear 200 solo, you need to know potd in and out, using pomanders for time saver and emergencies only.

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Originally Posted by Rhyn

The two frontrunners for being able to do it, Summoner and Warrior, have both been gutted in 4.0, so it's even less possible now. I don't think anyone is gonna clear beyond the 170ies.

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Funny thing, a japanese guy cleared up to 180 on astro before stormblood. Most likely, that person can clear 200 now. Im sure we will see someone from japan pr angelus from cactuar doing it first.

Speaking of which - WTB sustaining potions available for 3-5k gil each from a vendor...seems like a good gil sink come on SE!

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Originally Posted by Airget

I dunno, the Sustain might be strong enough to keep the person alive if they are on the nose when applying it. Otherwise the strategy would be to make sure you hold off your burst dmg until that final moment making sure you don't use it at a moment when it won't be accessible to you.

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the sustaining potion won't be enough to survive a second meteor on 180 I guess. some classes will need to use blood bath or mitigation (for example black mages who reached 180 will have to use virus on behemoth to lower the damage.
But you are right, the fight is all about having stamina before you burst it down. so you pop lust at about 20% ( I think..), spam sustaining potions, mitigation and give it all you got.

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Originally Posted by Ayerinn

Speaking of which - WTB sustaining potions available for 3-5k gil each from a vendor...seems like a good gil sink come on SE!

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I have 97 sustaining potions thanks to my attempts lol. But I had to consume them like crazy later on, so I guess I already had over 100 potions to keep me alive.

I was curious about this yesterday and checked the leaderboards. Unless my I'm misremembering, the farthest I have seen is a RDM on 186. So maybe some day?

I am not sure if one can still do this as a summoner. The sustain potion do help but I am not sure if this is enough. The <100 are easy as a redmage..The biggest problem I have is not my skill but randoms DCs thanks to the server. Everytime I do PotD I am going to be kicked at least once..which counts as death if you are solo..since I do run it in groups sometimes I see others getting DCs too so its not only me..

Dear SE please either give us the chance to get back into the instance if we are kicked (like it will only close after 5-10 minutes) or make it so that you can have at least like 3 "deaths". I mean you need to run 1-200 without normal deaths and having a DC will make hours of work be gone for something we cant influence at all. (Strangely when I was kicked right in front of the exit after the boss I was able to get back in just fine..but this was with a group..yet the group was not there anymore..why is that not possible for solo play?)

There's a recorded stream of RDM dying on 185 to a single mob while still have two Rage and three Witching and over half hour time. If he was more carefull, he'd probably got to 200.

And yes, DCs are the biggest challenge in solo, can't do 7-8 floor sets without disconnecting with 90002 at least once.

And the sad thing is, that this happens only that much since SB started: I did have some DCs before that but never so often.

*Looks.*

Monk 180. Red mage 185. Same character. How interesting. Even more interesting is their PvP track record. O_o

they removed tank busters from all bosses. They are fairly easy now, since you can just spam sustain potions anyway

the biggest hurdle is rng (floor effects, mimics, pomanders, traps) and thats all to it (aside from dcs)
but everyone should be able to get to 200 now if hes lucky and careful

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

they removed tank busters from all bosses. They are fairly easy now, since you can just spam sustain potions anyway

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That's Incorrect, the tank busters are still there, a boss for example Yulunggu will use its cleave splash which is the tankbuster, Some infact even have 2 busters.

I hope they fix the DC issue as Dcing at say floor 180 is ridiculous especially as Potd is a time consuming activity itself, As Alleo said above, give us 5-10mins to get back in, leave our character at the same spot, and have the same aggro'd enemies attack if you was fighting them as it happened to stop it being exploited.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

they removed tank busters from all bosses. They are fairly easy now, since you can just spam sustain potions anyway

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sustaining Potions are not the only thing you need. You need to know your job and POTD in and out. DPS in general (unless RDM) will have to mitigate damage by using virus, bloodbath etc. Bards will have the hardest time, as they only have potions and second wind, but nothing else to mitigate.

So you need: skill, sustain potions, food and luck. Infusion potions are highly recommend on later floors.

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Originally Posted by Kaiche

That's Incorrect, the tank busters are still there, a boss for example Yulunggu will use its cleave splash which is the tankbuster, Some infact even have 2 busters.

I hope they fix the DC issue as Dcing at say floor 180 is ridiculous especially as Potd is a time consuming activity itself, As Alleo said above, give us 5-10mins to get back in, leave our character at the same spot, and have the same aggro'd enemies attack if you was fighting them as it happened to stop it being exploited.

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ok, they still have "tankbuster", but instead of 10k+ dmg they deal less dmg than autohits (~2k), so they arent really existent anymore

I've personally made it to 150 before the new achievements came out.
Knowing the boss beforehand I would have likely planned better and have had the win. But alas...

I'm not sure past 170/180 solo is going to be very possible ever, less we go unsynced one day.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

they removed tank busters from all bosses.

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Oh this is news to me... Might have to try my adventure again!

I died at boss 150 yesterday so I can say that the bosses still can be hard. You need a certain pomander at boss 140 and need to hit him constantly with it to win this one so its not that easy and boss 150 was still quite mean with the adds. (I was tired and panicked a little x))

But yes luck is still quite a big reason to win or not. I was really unlucky on my last few floors till 150 and never got the good pomanders and had to use a lot of the rage ones. I also had no pomander of life left. But you still need to understand your job and know how to do the bosses because they still hit hard and one mistake can cost you your life. I missed killing that one zombie so it held me in place and the AOE killed me after that.

In the end DC is still the problem number one for me. I decided to try it with a character that started at 51 because I will not lose all the floors with that and I had a DC on floor 53..if this had been my other slot I would have lost all the work from 1-100...generally I find the achievement for the second solo title a bit too much..it still would have been quite the work if it started to count if you try it from 51..but from 1, thats just evil imo.

Could you imagine how bad it would be if you need to beat coil and Alex savage without a wipe to go into omega? And this every time?

Edit: sorry messed up the bosses..wrong floors

140 boss is the easiest one, can be killed in under 30 seconds even as a tank. Give him 5 vulnerability stacks at start and every Resolution cast will deal over 40k damage. Killed him every time just when adds spawned.

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Originally Posted by TaurusGilgamesh

sustaining Potions are not the only thing you need. You need to know your job and POTD in and out. DPS in general (unless RDM) will have to mitigate damage by using virus, bloodbath etc. Bards will have the hardest time, as they only have potions and second wind, but nothing else to mitigate.

So you need: skill, sustain potions, food and luck. Infusion potions are highly recommend on later floors.

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This right here.

Hardest part about this climb is not D/Cing in the middle of it. Third time I've tried to climb it now solo and I've D/Ced at some random point along the way. This time it was on floor 128
I really wish they'd do something to compensate for this since it's pretty demoralizing when it happens.

I understand their concern for players possibly abusing the system should they allow ppl to keep their progress if they D/C in the middle of it by just unplugging if they get a bad floor. But I just don't know? I honestly feel it wouldn't hurt if they went ahead and allowed it in the long run. I'm sure more people would be willing to try and continue to work at the content if they didn't have to worry about the servers being their greatest enemy.

All gripes aside, I'll continue to chip away until I get to 200 but I do feel they could at least give some lee-way about this one particular problem.

The fact that to get the title you have to start from 1 instead of 51 is rather insane, every 151-200 attempt has this huge preparation time of running 1-150 solo, which is extremely time consuming.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

140 boss is the easiest one, can be killed in under 30 seconds even as a tank. Give him 5 vulnerability stacks at start and every Resolution cast will deal over 40k damage. Killed him every time just when adds spawned.

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I edited my post, put the wrong numbers down. I died at boss 150 (the succubus) and yes 140 is easy if you have the pomander. Not sure if you can beat it without that one.

I do wonder if SE ever really thought how much work this second solo title is? Especially with the 0 death part on top of it. Solo is still not a cakewalk and even if you could restart at 101 again after you die, you would still need to go through 99 floors..I am not sure if there is any other content in the game that punish you that much..And on top of that, its one of the few content where a DC will mean a loss of hours of playing..I really hope that I will not have a DC on the floors after 100...could you imagine having a DC around floor 191? Or even later? Maybe even on 200 before you leave the instance?

I saw a video of a red mage trying to do boss 190 solo. She got two shotted. Just two normal hits from the boss where enough to kill her...can somebody tell me how one should survive this? She used the sustain potion and as a redmage you at least have heal but two hits and she was down. Thats insane. This will make it impossible for most of the jobs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B63l...ature=youtu.be

Here is the video if someone is interested. So much to how its fairly easy now :'D

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Originally Posted by Alleo

I saw a video of a red mage trying to do boss 190 solo. She got two shotted. Just two normal hits from the boss where enough to kill her...can somebody tell me how one should survive this? She used the sustain potion and as a redmage you at least have heal but two hits and she was down. Thats insane. This will make it impossible for most of the jobs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B63l...ature=youtu.be
Here is the video if someone is interested. So much to how its fairly easy now :'D

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I just wanted to post this as well.
But we need to say, that he did not have a pomander of steel anymore. At the beginning, as a succubus, he had 3 minutes left, but wasn't fast enough to click the succubus off.

That boss does two autoattacks immediately followed by a tankbuster (Scalding Scolding), need to heal through these and succub after it. Just need to know it's full rotation and be ready when it starts cycling.
I think SE will nerf the bosses again because more than a month and nobody got that achievement. Or they'll increase level cap to 70 which will make everything trivial.

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Originally Posted by YenNox

I just wanted to post this as well.
But we need to say, that he did not have a pomander of steel anymore. At the beginning, as a succubus, he had 3 minutes left, but wasn't fast enough to click the succubus off.

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But even with steel it took like three hits to kill her/him. (And this was with sustain potion too)

@SuperZay: But can you heal fast enough to survive this solo? He/She did wrote in the reddit thread that she was not even able to double cast heal before it all went south and if a tankbuster is following these two attacks (that seems to have hit her for 18k) I cant see how any job can survive this solo. With a team you will probably have a tank to take the damage and a healer to heal them up. Or at least have more than one person to heal at the same time. I just cant see how this doable for any other job than redmage and maybe some healers (if they get past all the DPS checks to reach this boss) and I am not even sure how even those will survive this attack pattern. (Or was your post about your own solo experience?)

I do believe that they have to adjust the boss a bit. The solo title should be hard to get (but its already hard thanks to it being from 1-200 and having lots of monster between the boss floors that you cant defeat solo) but it should not be impossible or near impossible. Other content can at least be out-geared somewhere in the future, but here you simply cant do that.

I say this as someone who honestly enjoyed doing my 1-100 achievement, spent some time on the leaderboards for it, and still spends more time in Palace just for the sake of it than any reasonable person should: the whole Necromancer achievement and way they've handled the 101-200 floors is a big bummer for me honestly. Especially with how sensitive this game is about connections and booting you out, even assuming they fix the bosses to actually be reasonably do-able beyond a couple of classes and some god tier Pomander management, you've still got the looming threat of one hiccup in your connection, one DDoS at a bad time, one whatever sending you all the way back to floor 1.

I don't even know what I'm asking for here. Not an easy 1-200 achievement, because I do think it should be a challenge, but maybe tune it some so that 101-200 is slightly more do-able and let me try starting at 101 if I've beaten 100 so that I can practice those higher floors more without slogging up from 50 each time. It just feels like they didn't put any thought into it, and with how scared they seem to be of touching up old content I'm worried they never will. Maybe a handful of people worldwide, at best, with the title will be enough to change their minds.

From my quick research on the ranking, it appears that no one has been able to do all 200 floors solo, although there is a handful at 180+.

I suggest that adding a grace periods for DCs, allowing people who have cleared 1-100 solo to be able to start at floor 101 on wipe, and maybe tuning down the floor 199 boss would work wonders.

And, the grace period could not be exploited as easily as you might think. It takes a full 20 seconds to disconnect yourself so you could not use it in a pinch and upon loading back in, it is just going to put you right back where you were.

I don't think they should necessarily make it easier, but I do think they should give us a few more tools to minimize the impact of RNG. Something that'd allow better control over pomander drops would be great, and increasing the number of each pomander we could carry would be even better.

make it possible to carry 4 or 5 pomander of each kind and let str/def pomander stack one time, guess that would be enough to ensure a "safe" trip to 200

except rng really messes around :p

@ServerCollaps: Did you see the video that I linked? Steel pomander will probably not save you from this boss if you do it solo. The redmage already said that she did it with others before and even there this 190 boss can be a pain, because she is simply hitting way too hard. She had steel on at the beginning but even if she would have been able to click of succubus, she would have died after the third hit and this boss does two hits + tank buster.

In the end if they do nothing with the way this boss hit, even with more pomanders the only job that might be able to do this would be redmage. Healers and tank simply have not enough DPS to go that high and all other DD do not have enough heal to survive the boss at all.

She only had like 12 minutes left on the clock because you will need lots of time on the higher floors solo and she would have to heal a lot so who knows if she could even beat the boss in time.

And lets not forget that there are monsters on the floors that simply cant be killed solo. Yes one could say that it would be the challenge to avoid those but there is a lot of RNG in this and I am not sure if a challenge is truly a challenge if a lot is down to simple luck.

Also its a solo title for doing this from 1-200 (which alone is insane..), so it should be doable by each job. Not "1 job might be able to survive this if they are truly lucky and one should forget to even try it with the rest".

And on top of that you have the horrible DC problem...all of this together just destroyed any motivation at throwing myself at this. I would be fine if I have to restart again if I make a stupid mistake. Or if I am simply not good enough with the job. I am not fine with losing hours of work thanks to one DC or thanks to a boss being not doable at all.

SE please dont put a solo title behind this if its not even sure if you can beat it. I want a challenge and not something impossible..(or maybe possible with only one job)