Do people even know how frontlines work?

PvP is definitely not the main element of the game and it's actually horrible, but it's by far the only proper way of catching up to the MSQ in stormblood for dps players. Now what frustrates me is the amount of people that have no idea how frontlines actually work. I can't count the times today that I've had a pvp match where people would just keep chasing into enemy lines ALONE. People even ignoring crystals right next to them, just because they want to kill something.

Worst part is that I've seen games where it's literally less than 200 points vs two alliances that are already at 900+.

Frontlines is basically super casual mode. It is mindless silly deathmatches for most people. Now to be fair, I play seriously and my performances (Both in winrate and personal success with getting Battle Ferver) but, I equally recognize outside of marks for glamour gear and a few achievements, there is no incentive to actually win.

Go in looking for a fun time and just be happy when you win. You will be less upset. You could also play Ranked Feast with a team for serious PvP.

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Originally Posted by HyperSMB

Frontlines is basically super casual mode. It is mindless silly deathmatches for most people. Now to be fair, I play seriously and my performances (Both in winrate and personal success with getting Battle Ferver) but, I equally recognize outside of marks for glamour gear and a few achievements, there is no incentive to actually win.

Go in looking for a fun time and just be happy when you win. You will be less upset. You could also play Ranked Feast with a team for serious PvP.

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Well I wouldn't play pvp if I had a choice, but thanks to the addition of a certain class named samurai there's a lack of healers. I personally really want to play RDM, but because hte current dps queue is close to 40-50mins per dungeon it's just smarter to do pvp for 700k+ exp with 10mins of playing...

You're lucky to evem get that.
We get people AFKing all the time.
No one cares because they are just wanting the EXP for it.
On Aether server, TA almost always loses and have been for years even before the EXP.
So in short, no lol.

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Originally Posted by HyperSMB

Go in looking for a fun time and just be happy when you win. You will be less upset. You could also play Ranked Feast with a team for serious PvP.

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They deleted that mode :s

I'm not having much trouble in Frontline but the healer deficit is extremely noticeable! It's brutal out there with all of the new DPS players not understanding how frail they really are, but still fun.

Go in, defend base, get exp? Isn't that how it works?

WARNING THIS IS SARCASM WARNING

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Originally Posted by Serilda

They deleted that mode :s

I'm not having much trouble in Frontline but the healer deficit is extremely noticeable! It's brutal out there with all of the new DPS players not understanding how frail they really are, but still fun.

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Oh shoot, did not even notice XD.

For players looking to rack up and do work, I highly recommend SMN and BRD. Both do tremendous work for long distance (Now that they removed the distance penalty.

BRD will allow you to silence healers and then burn them with Army's -> Barrage -> Empyreal Arrow.

SMN just hurts.

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Originally Posted by NoahArks

PvP is definitely not the main element of the game and it's actually horrible, but it's by far the only proper way of catching up to the MSQ in stormblood for dps players. Now what frustrates me is the amount of people that have no idea how frontlines actually work. I can't count the times today that I've had a pvp match where people would just keep chasing into enemy lines ALONE. People even ignoring crystals right next to them, just because they want to kill something.

Worst part is that I've seen games where it's literally less than 200 points vs two alliances that are already at 900+.

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There are a lot of recent new players, so there's plenty of people who don't know how frontlines work. Then there's people who never bothered to learn how frontlines work or don't care. The best thing you can do is just try to lead if you want to win. That being said I don't think it matters unless you're farming for glam.

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Originally Posted by NoahArks

Well I wouldn't play pvp if I had a choice, but thanks to the addition of a certain class named samurai there's a lack of healers. I personally really want to play RDM, but because hte current dps queue is close to 40-50mins per dungeon it's just smarter to do pvp for 700k+ exp with 10mins of playing...

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My advice is find a healer or tank buddy. I mean, this is a MMO.

yes i know how to pvp. que in afk wait for my easy loss, free exp and continue. fast exp, easy que, no effort!

I'm new to Frontlines. I have never bothered to PVP in FFXIV. I only started because of the insane experience given out since SB landed, regardless of win or loss.

It only took me two to three runs to figure out what to do and what not to do...

What I'm more concerned about is SE nerfing the experience gained on a loss.

With all these people afking in Frontlines (I make sure to watch out for these people and kick them when I can) and with the people who obviously don't care about winning (I've heard people say this in chat), enough people are going to complain about these things that SE will most likely cut the experience gain from a loss in an attempt to stop this kind of behavior. So I implore the lazy fks, please put a minor amount of effort into each match? You will ruin it for all of us, yourself included.

I'm not a big pvper but since they've added xp and are allowing characters down to level 30 in, I've been thinking about doing some for my alt classes to boost them up a bit. As a person who has been playing this game for a long time, though, I just don't see what is so special about level cap that you would afk just to boost xp. It's kind of pathetic. At level 30 you are still going to be doing the same things you are doing at level 70....run around and kill stuff for better gear. At end game you are just repeatedly killing the same stuff so you can earn esoterica at a slower pace to boost your gear.

Edit: Plus with the way pvp is right now. it doesn't matter what level you are, everybody starts out the same.

People know exactly how it works. Almost instant que, rewards Xp, rewards tomes, rewards afk'ers. Speed run consists of feeding the other team and ignoring objectives, so they can do it again. Lol the question is....do you know how frontlines works? =P

what u need is a device that hits ur spacebar every min or so just defend base lol
something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_o_...ature=youtu.be

I've done quite a bit of pvp, and it has gotten a lot worse. Plus, they made healing the most un-fun role now, so expect to see even less healers from now on

Im a pretty bad PVPer.. (I hate any kind of pvp.. -.-) Since PVP change - I mostly stand around near base and do "hit&Run" tactic because fighting a hardcore player is not my thing, so I just run or simply dont move at all >-> ... with that stupid change I cant even have a little fun anymore <.< ...being a ninja and hide invisible at base till some1 trys to invade was fun! But now I only do a few PVP for exp, tomes and seals, to get pvp currency locked gears(please that crap already...).