Preferred AOE DPS jobs

What job do you prefer to see when you go into a dungeon doing large pulls?

in 3.0
SMN x2 = YEAAAAAAAAH
SMN + BLM = Great
BLM x2 = nice
monk x2 = kill me now.

Thanks everyone for their input below.
in 4.0 --- so far from the feedback

Tier 1
#1 BLM - quadflare with a foul
#2 RDM

Tier 2
#3 SAM - has the potency reductions
#3 SMN
#4 MNK - with cd bursting 6 Rockbreakers

Tier 3
The rest

SAM has the potency reductions not unlike BLM, meanwhile MNK maintains full power behind their biz. True after they burnt heir ogcs they'll only have Rockbreaker but if you're really wanting to push that mob mass then it probably evens out.

After several runs Expert Roulette farming for Verity and having BLM, SMN, RDM, SAM, and MNK as my other DPS (I'm bard), I've had WAY faster runs with RDM and BLM as my partner. I'm not sure if the MNKs I've been paired with were not good, but it just wasn't great imo.

SAM no contest. 6 aoe abilities, some with only 10% falloff. Well, as far as melee goes.

BLM and RDM. The sheer amounts of dmg the BLM can have on aoe are ridiculous. RDM is on the same boat. Countless extreme runs with a dps addon rank BLMs first and RDMs second but with a small difference. Then, way below BLMs and RDMs, its between SMN and SAM. Ive seen high SAMs and low SAMs of the same gear. Same goes for SMNs.
So from data i have collected:

1 BLM
2 RDM
3 SAM
4 SMN
rest.

A monk's burst AoE under perfect balance in dungeons is still one of the most powerful out there since you can get 6 Rockbreakers back to back especially if you've built up stacks before hand while mobs were being pulled together. After that their sustained AoE will be behind Samurai and the casters.

SAM no contest. 6 aoe abilities, some with only 10% falloff. Well, as far as melee goes.

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Originally Posted by Sailysium

A monk's burst AoE under perfect balance in dungeons is still one of the most powerful out there since you can get 6 Rockbreakers back to back especially if you've built up stacks before hand while mobs were being pulled together. After that their sustained AoE will be behind Samurai and the casters.

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Have you ever seen a BLM quadflare in a row with no cast times and with a foul included? I think BLM wins on the burst department.

This thread tells me that most people have never seen good Bards in their entire life.

Then again, I don't run into many good Monks either, despite the fact that they had the highest theoretical AoE DPS in HW.

One of my friends figured out that Ninja actually has MASSIVE burst AoE damage, but he'd have to come into this thread to describe it, as I don't really understand it myself. But he said something about Ninjas being able to pull off 2k AoE potency over a 4-5 second burst period if pulled off correctly.

I've only gotten SAM to 54 (and played at 60 a little in Deep Dungeon). It seems like their AoE rotation eats up all their TP before large groups of mobs are dead, but maybe I'm wrong here?

blackmages are the best for AOE not only do they do alot of damage but because of the way the class works they never have to worry about running out of resources either

Newbie here, how high/low are dragoons in dishing out aoe damage? They seem to have a decent kit, but I don't really have anything to compare it to (only really play dragoon)

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Originally Posted by KFP7

Newbie here, how high/low are dragoons in dishing out aoe damage? They seem to have a decent kit, but I don't really have anything to compare it to (only really play dragoon)

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DRG is not top 4 AOE DPS.

single target DPS #
http://i.imgur.com/aHrZaDL.jpg

bump. would like to see more feedback is possible.

I feel like SAM's AOE actually seems pretty damn strong.

Granted, I haven't started parsing again since the launch of 4.0 since I am afraid of how woefully inept the numbers will make me feel.

Isn't that damage chart just sheet dps on a dummy? I mean, that's irrelevant info if that's the case imo.

I'm honestly surprised nobody is mentioning Bard. With how foe works now, along with Mages Ballad giving us our old Rain of Death spam, we are sitting in a good place for burst aoe.

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Originally Posted by AkashiXI

I'm honestly surprised nobody is mentioning Bard. With how foe works now, along with Mages Ballad giving us our old Rain of Death spam, we are sitting in a good place for burst aoe.

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Bard eats away their tp so freaking fast, it's not even funny. Invigorate and the aoe TP ability aren't nearly enough to sustain aoe in, for example, a dungeon run. Also, mages ballad is only up ~1/3rd of the time and requires dots to reset RoD; paeon eats your TP even faster, and minuet is basically a single target damage increase.

Bard aoe is good, but it's not top tier, and especially not over even medium duration, let alone a chain pulling dungeon.