Town Design Flaws

Why should I care about towns such as Sui No Sui, and Ala Ghiri, if I cant even even go in any of the buildings? I thought this was 2017, not a cheap 2000s mmo. In my opinion it really breaks the immersion, and feeling compared to towns in the 2.0, and 3.0 areas. I want to be be able to go and see what the people are up to, I want feel immersed in the town culture, not just outside.

I noticed the lack of swinging doors, but to be honest, the zones are so much larger idgaf xD There's so many other things going on.

Just see it as people dont want you to just come into their private homes - I'm keeping my own doors looked for weird, by-passing strangers aswell!

(While I do sort of understand what you're getting at... what would be inside the houses? Generic living room versions?)

Would it be weird to say that I do NOT find this to be an issue? I always thought it was weird in so many single player RPGs how you could just walk into people's houses, unannounced, and they'd talk about the plot or give you stuff for poor reasons. Jontron pretty much put it right in his Hercules games video.

Walks into house.
Owner: Get out of my House.
Jontron: Well, yeah, I guess anything other than that would be deviating from the norm...

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Why should I care about towns such as Sui No Sui, and Ala Ghiri, if I cant even even go in any of the buildings? I thought this was 2017, not a cheap 2000s mmo. In my opinion it really breaks the immersion, and feeling compared to towns in the 2.0, and 3.0 areas. I want to be be able to go and see what the people are up to, I want feel immersed in the town culture, not just outside.

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I don't really find that I care about the towns either way. The NPCs are too dull (no routine a la Skyrim, no real dialogue of note), the merchants are too predictable and redundant, etc. They'd have to include far more than building interiors to meaningfully affect immersion.

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Originally Posted by Vexander

Would it be weird to say that I do NOT find this to be an issue? ...snip

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Nope. I always find it a bit odd that nobody locks their doors in towns in single player RPGs. It actually feels more realistic to me to NOT be breaking and entering on every single place I see.

It break your immersion to not be able to randomly walking into someones home etc?

XD Ehhhh It didn't bug me.

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Originally Posted by Vexander

I always thought it was weird in so many single player RPGs how you could just walk into people's houses, unannounced, and they'd talk about the plot or give you stuff for poor reasons.

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It's also weird that the hero can die, then try again indefinitely anyway. It'd make more sense to erase the save file and give you an alternate hero to try again from scratch, with the game shutting down entirely if you run out of heroes that would make sense in the plot.

Not very immersive with the effective immortality. They could at least go with reincarnation instead of revival.

I can agree about the inability to enter some buildings - Stuff like taverns or other "Businesses" being walled is weird... But Houses and such not so much. Then again, they are also in occupied territories, so trust is likely a big issue and further explains away the locks potentially.

You mean the houses that were usually empty and on the rare occasion that an NPC were inside most of the time you couldn't interact with them? Yes, such a major flaw. My immersion can't take it.

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Originally Posted by Muchmidget

Nope. I always find it a bit odd that nobody locks their doors in towns in single player rpgs.

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Haha 1st said that in breath of fire 2 on snes go into some1s house n rumage through thier drawers for goodies xD

I would also like to run into homes uninvited and spectate what people are doing during their daily lives.
Maybe sit down by their table and have a meal.
Invite some friends and ERP on their daughters bed.

But... that's normal though. Those are private dwellings.

Ul'Dah has taverns and businesses/guilds that you can walk into which is pretty different since those are public establishments.

GTA V and Witcher 3 also don't allow you to go in every and any building.

It's a trade off.

What you want is more like the Bethesda games (Elders Scrolls, Fallout) but, honestly, those don't scale well - places that are meant to be cities often feel more like villages.

It's not the houses that is the problem, it is some of the restrictive area, simple jump off the side of the steps would get you to the bottom, but an invisible barrier stops you from taking a short cut. There are loads of places like this throughout FF14 that kinda break immersion more than trespassing in a random NPCs house

If you feel like going into random people's houses the housing wards are perfect for just that purpose. Most people allow random people to enter anyhow.

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Originally Posted by GDFletcher

It's not the houses that is the problem, it is some of the restrictive area, simple jump off the side of the steps would get you to the bottom, but an invisible barrier stops you from taking a short cut. There are loads of places like this throughout FF14 that kinda break immersion more than trespassing in a random NPCs house

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This is a complaint I can get behind. Can't begin to count how many times in SB already where I tried to take a shortcut off a cliff, only to be met with an invisible wall that forces me to go the long way or get so close to the bottom that leaping off doesn't save my any time.

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

This is a complaint I can get behind. Can't begin to count how many times in SB already where I tried to take a shortcut off a cliff, only to be met with an invisible wall that forces me to go the long way or get so close to the bottom that leaping off doesn't save my any time.

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I was stuck grinding the innkeep in Ishgard for his triple triad card, and the SOUND of fall damage from people jumping over the railing above started to gross me out. A cacophony of cracking ligaments, knees snapping and legs fracturing, followed by players lurching their broken bones to the dark knight trainer in hopes of unlocking the inner darkness within their now crippled bodies.

Be kind to your joints and take the long way down. You'll thank me when you're older and can still walk.

Either way I feel that a few buildings should be open. They don't all have to be. When there's none, it just feels off.

we have yet to have a game like that where you can go in buildings and it's loaded with content inside as well as outside.