Split Balmung into 2 separate servers

Please split Balmung & maybe Gilgamesh into 2 separate servers. But keep them locked for any new characters and transfers until things stabilize out.

Back in the 1.0 days, Besaid and Fabul merged together to become what we know now as Balmung. This may have seem like a good idea back then, but it's way to overcrowding today.

This might help with the problems that we are having today. SE can give people the option of which server they wish to remain on or transfer to, so you can stay with FC and/or your friends, etc.

This is just my thought that might alleviate some of the server issues.

NA doesn't need any new servers, though.

Nah. They just need to squash Balmung and Greg's population back down to manageable #'s.

Now that I see them adding new worlds, I think the most likely thing to happen is it'll just stay locked. The population will slowly go down, and once our worlds finally have a more even distribution, they'll add a new world(s), which may be the push Balmung and Gilgamesh need.

Just wait it out. All the casual that want to try out SB are back and want to play it. In a week or two everything will be back to normal.

Sure it sucks having queues of 4k (lol, i ain't waiting that..) and you want to play, but what can you do? That's life.

I'm wondering... how would you want to decided who gets to stay on which server after the split? Who goes to BalmungA and who to BalmungB? Randomly? You get to choose one of your liking?
If you get to pick, you most likely pick the server your friends are going to, right? Like... a whole group decides to which server they're going to move... you see what I'm getting at here? If they split the server and everyone gets distrubuted randomly, theres going to be an outcry about splitting friends, FC, communties... if you get to choose (and most likely decide together with your group) - how is that going to be so different than having your group discuss moving together, now that we're having free transfer? Just because a split would actually force you to make that choice?
Splitting the server would essiantially be creating a new server - and why should they bother when there are quite a few servers on your datacenter that you can fill before they make a new one?

How do you do the split though? It would be better if they simply set a NA server as a promotional server like omega but it be for balmung players

What needs to happen is Squeenix needs to offer free transfers off Gilgamesh and Balmung for over one year to any server they choose.

It is utterly ridiculous to have locked down these servers. People have paid enough to get on them over the past four years.

Squeenix needs to show unlimited transfers off Gilgamesh for at least a full year, if not two.

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Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora

What needs to happen is Squeenix needs to offer free transfers off Gilgamesh and Balmung for over one year to any server they choose.

It is utterly ridiculous to have locked down these servers. People have paid enough to get on them over the past four years.

Squeenix needs to show unlimited transfers off Gilgamesh for at least a full year, if not two.

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Anyone transferring to either server, myself included, were well aware how populated they were. SE is doing what is best for all servers by locking them.... though admittedly late.

A split isn't going to work since how exactly would you even facilitate one? A better solution, if they ever were to go this route, is a brand new server where only Balmung players could transfer into for a couple weeks. The reason being is this allows anyone transferring to keep their houses-- the biggest motivating factor for many players, especially roleplayers. You then designate it an official RP server, along with another one or two. That will entice roleplayers off Balmung. After all, there's a reason people keep bringing up the RP label during live letters.

But they aren't going to do that since it costs money. Which is fine, however I am curious just how many people will actually leave Balmung.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

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Personally if i was in charge of doing it i'd do it based off of activity with the main focus on anyone who was not subbing an account for a year+ and came back for SB would be automatically moved to a new server regardless with an added bonus of any person who is a couple and wants to play with their partner gets moved together on the new server. yes they may have friends and family on the server they've been moved from but if they werent playing pre sb then they either have other means of contacting those people or just didnt care enough for them to contact them while they werent actively subbing the game.

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Originally Posted by RubenSnizzle

Sure it sucks having queues of 4k (lol, i ain't waiting that..) and you want to play, but what can you do? That's life.

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Right now, Leviathan has queue of 4k+ and it's hardly moving. Yet the server is still open for transfer/character creation.

Seriously, it's another server they need to close down. The wait times are getting ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by vio_p

Personally if i was in charge of doing it i'd do it based off of activity with the main focus on anyone who was not subbing an account for a year+ and came back for SB would be automatically moved to a new server regardless with an added bonus of any person who is a couple and wants to play with their partner gets moved together on the new server. yes they may have friends and family on the server they've been moved from but if they werent playing pre sb then they either have other means of contacting those people or just didnt care enough for them to contact them while they werent actively subbing the game.

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That would just make your customers angry, and rightfully so.... not worth it

There is no way for a server split to work without extreme customer backlash. If people couldn't handle two days of Raubhan savage and Pipin extreme, gods help ya if you try to force a move on them. That said, it's a shame that this is the case. A forced split from the existing serfvers--essentially social dynamite--is the only way I think we have hope of seeing any real improvement.

1. Message all players who have characters on the servers that are to be terminated both via e-mail, on mogstation and in game.

2. Give 30 / 60 / 90 days for them to select where to transfer their character(s) among a selection of pre-determined worlds. This would give people time to plan for the move and would hopefully help large communities not get shattered.

3. Offer some form of compensation or transfer for things like housing, apartments, airships, etc.

4. Grant all players who actively take part in the move--i.e. selecting a new world for their character(s) with worthwhile compensation for positively and actively taking part in resolving this problem.

6. Move unclaimed / unselected characters to whichever world SE desires since their player did not actively choose to take responsibility for them.

...And there you have it. The huge servers are dispersed, people have enough time to sort things with friends / fc / community, people get compensated for the annoyances of these actions and rewarded for actively taking part.

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Originally Posted by Katryn

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Problem is, is that everyone would then select one server. You'd have to set a cap per server on a first come first serve basis. Once the cap is filled, no more characters allowed to go there. They then have to select a new world. But that would then face the earlier backlash of "I can't play with my friends!" because they didn't select it in time and they'd feel that their delay in getting the message or whatever is SE's fault. Unfortunately, I think the random split (with FC's getting to stick together in one server, while friends lists and linkshells go cross-realm) is the way to go. Swap one of the servers in a different datacentre with Balmung or Gilgamesh (to put Gilgamesh and Balmung on different datacentres), then ensure the split is only moving people within the same datacentre. That way, all your contacts from that realm you were on before remain. There'd still be a huge backlack (there would be however a forced server split is done), but I think this might be the safest way to do it as it would help people keep contacts much easier.

I think the queue times are being made worse by DF being unstable at peak times, there is 0 queue right now and was 200-500 during the day its hardly at the breaking point just give it a week or two and it will go back to normal.

If you cant wait there is free transfers...

Kinda makes me wonder, if Balmung were to be reopened, simply cus the levels finally got to a safe level, do you think people would start trying to flood back in?

Besaid + Fabul = Balmung? I may have missed something in my FF culture

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

Kinda makes me wonder, if Balmung were to be reopened, simply cus the levels finally got to a safe level, do you think people would start trying to flood back in?

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Almost inevitably so, yes.

A big factor in that is how Mateus turns out as a second RP server. If it's still languishing, many people from there might give up and simply go to the larger option. That alone has been a huge reason roleplay on other servers has died off. People always had the choice to transfer onto Balmung where they were practically guaranteed to find RP.

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Originally Posted by Arutan

Besaid + Fabul = Balmung? I may have missed something in my FF culture

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Back in 1.0 there were several server mergers. A lot of the servers we have now didn't exist by the names they have now. The original server I was on was Rabanastre which got turned into Durandal and then Durandal got split in half to form Hyperion. :)

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Originally Posted by Beatrice

Back in 1.0 there were several server mergers. A lot of the servers we have now didn't exist by the names they have now. The original server I was on was Rabanastre which got turned into Durandal and then Durandal got split in half to form Hyperion. :)

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I was just thinking of the merge of an FFIV city with an FFX city to make a weapon.

they clearly don't seem to care about how their servers arnt allowing people to connect and the que times for logging in on large servers sucks, the servers ability to allow people to stay connected sucks, instance servers suck. They need more backbone servers for sure, as far as congested worlds, their PR is so bad right now, I wouldn't be shocked If they tried the united airlines method, if you don't wanna leave a overbooked server, draw a lottery and throw random people onto less populated ones. XD

How about anyone that joined or transferred to Balmung after certain time are the ones the get split to a different server.

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Originally Posted by Katryn

There is no way for a server split to work without extreme customer backlash. If people couldn't handle two days of Raubhan savage and Pipin extreme, gods help ya if you try to force a move on them. That said, it's a shame that this is the case. A forced split from the existing serfvers--essentially social dynamite--is the only way I think we have hope of seeing any real improvement.

1. Message all players who have characters on the servers that are to be terminated both via e-mail, on mogstation and in game.

2. Give 30 / 60 / 90 days for them to select where to transfer their character(s) among a selection of pre-determined worlds. This would give people time to plan for the move and would hopefully help large communities not get shattered.

3. Offer some form of compensation or transfer for things like housing, apartments, airships, etc.

4. Grant all players who actively take part in the move--i.e. selecting a new world for their character(s) with worthwhile compensation for positively and actively taking part in resolving this problem.

6. Move unclaimed / unselected characters to whichever world SE desires since their player did not actively choose to take responsibility for them.

...And there you have it. The huge servers are dispersed, people have enough time to sort things with friends / fc / community, people get compensated for the annoyances of these actions and rewarded for actively taking part.

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Yeah, that wouldn't work. Certain servers are considered "official" by outside communities. Gilgamesh for example is reddits' official server unless you're on legacy, than it's Balmung.

So splitting them up won't happen, as one server will get designated official by the community again, and thus nothing gets solved.

The better solution is to just offer a bigger carrot and don't allow character creation, housing, new retainers or FC's until congestion goes down. Literately SE can reach out to the largest FC's and ask them if they want to move and give some benefits to them for volunteering to do so. Have all the characters in that FC, their accounts, and their retainers on that server get moved in one shot if the FC members confirm being moved. If they don't confirm, they get dropped from the FC.

But short of that, any solution that is involuntary is going just result in backlash. The last thing you want is SE to just to arbitrarily divide the server by giving everyone a number, either a "1" or a "2" and let them freely trade 1's and 2's for 7 days before anyone holding a "1" gets dropped onto the new server, and anyone holding a "2" is left behind. Lose the ticket and you get sent to whichever one is needed to make up the balance.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

How about anyone that joined or transferred to Balmung after certain time are the ones the get split to a different server.

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How about no? That is a bad idea. As is all other variants of forced server-splits.

As long as there are free transfers, the super long queue times will do the job on their own. The problem will resolve itself when those who do not want to wait leave for another server.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

How about no? That is a bad idea. As is all other variants of forced server-splits.

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How about people shut up and deal with the queue, while SE did allow this too long it the player base that created the problem.

I would think they just need Free transfer away from Balmung and Gilgamesh Same with the over populated JP servers. Then depending on which server they move to give them 1-2 Months Free.

IE if someone on Balmung moves to the lowest 2 populated servers give a person transferring 2 months free along with a free transfer away. If they move to 3-4 least populated server 1 months free. If they move to any other server no free months just free transfer away.

I think that is the only way you will get enough people to make a move to make a difference.

Also, my wife doesn't care she is in the hospital with 2 broken legs, will October in which case all this craziness will be over with. On that note in this time I am playing and will get a head of her which means I'm not in a supper big rush to do, so the queue don't bug me but not being able to do the 1st instance in SB was a little bit of an issue.

Was SEnix offering a guild move like seriously who cares what world you are on as long as you have your friends to play with that's all that matters I say wait to see if they offer the guild move and if they are just do that people.

The guild transfer should be free if you wanna go solo just pay everyone knew what it was before SB launched.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

How about anyone that joined or transferred to Balmung after certain time are the ones the get split to a different server.

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So people who paid money to transfer should get the boot? Wut?

I'd honestly prefer to see Gilgamesh and Balmung separated from being on the same Data Center over a forced split of a server.

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

So people who paid money to transfer should get the boot? Wut?

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Well native players (1.0 players) or people that joined at the start of 2.0 shouldn't be the ones that have to get and "get the boot" so yes the people that help cause the problem (ones that transferred in when server was locked to new characters) should be the ones that booted to a new server.