(AST) The most pointless change of them all...

Collective Unconscious. Why can I no longer right click and spin during it? I have always defaulted to right clicking to move my camera in any MMO, only to have it now cancel the ability if I do so. WHY. WHY SE.

I feel like there's an option in setting that makes it so you don't turning to face the camera direction, but I can't say for sure.

Oh so THAT'S why it randomly stopped during Sasano earlier today. I had suspected that they might have changed it but never ended up checking afterwards...

Very silly change. Much like the utter lack of notification about cards. We still ought to have our RR effect displayed on our status bar, among other things.

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Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki

Very silly change. Much like the utter lack of notification about cards. We still ought to have our RR effect displayed on our status bar, among other things.

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I honestly only noticed it because I usually mess around in cities with the Wailing Spirit outfit and spinning in circles as a spoopy ghost. Can't do it anymore. I had originally noticed it in some instances but attributed it to server lag thinking I was still moving.

As to cards/the job gauge, I could write a novel about how terrible the changes are for AST (And many jobs in general). Hopefully they pull their heads out of their collective nether regions and at least add an option for things.

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Originally Posted by LegoTechnic

I feel like there's an option in setting that makes it so you don't turning to face the camera direction, but I can't say for sure.

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You mean Legacy Camera?

WOW. Okay, so I thought it was bad enough. Apparently even the auto follow/face after healing a target disables collective unconscious.

Did SE even test this patch?

Yeah, this is broken. Affects pad users too - I've had it happen twice in a row in one fight. Not the end of the world, but definitely needs patching or new ASTs aren't going to realise how it's meant to work o_O

I'm just more surprised that more people haven't noticed it yet.


Though they may just be attributing it to other things.

That change was made probably because of the new lvl 70 Paladin.

If you would allow to rotate while channeling Paladin would be able to move his Area of damage reducion. So they probably fixed all the channeled abilities so people wouldn't be able to rotate and AST Collective Unconscious got a collateral hit because of that.

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Originally Posted by AlphaSonic

That change was made probably because of the new lvl 70 Paladin.

If you would allow to rotate while channeling Paladin would be able to move his Area of damage reducion. So they probably fixed all the channeled abilities so people wouldn't be able to rotate and AST Collective Unconscious got a collateral hit because of that.

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And that's perfectly understandable, logic wise.

But things like having it canceled by the auto face after a heal?

That's just poor design.

It's definitely irritating that you can't so spin so much as a smidge without instantly cancelling the effect. Apparently I was in the habit of turning my character's view to monitor fights while I waited the 1-3 seconds for CU to apply its buff, and I'm having to remind myself to take my finger off of right click when I want to use it.

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

It's definitely irritating that you can't so spin so much as a smidge without instantly cancelling the effect. Apparently I was in the habit of turning my character's view to monitor fights while I waited the 1-3 seconds for CU to apply its buff, and I'm having to remind myself to take my finger off of right click when I want to use it.

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It's pretty bad when I'm literally forcing myself to take my hands off both my keyboard and mouse entirely just to minimize the chance that I might accidentally move my camera/character.

I had thought that It was lag when the few times this has happened. Honestly, this is absolutely stupid. I use the right click camera shift so I am facing the right way for whatever reason (to heal someone behind me, to avoid a gaze mechanic, etc) I've used this less since launch because I of the troubles. As it stands I'm so trained with it that it either goes on CD without applying anything or I dont use it because Most often then not, taking hands from mouse/keyboard mid fight is total BS

I reported it as a bug today (couldn't find any previous reports o_O) and it was moved to Accepted Bugs very quickly, so hopefully this will be resolved soon.