need quests

I'm looking forward to the changes they are making in the game but am disappointed with the lack of content. fighting an NM over and over isn't content. Fighting Ifrit and a giant moogle isn't content. I know some people don't like pointless quests. Like go kill this or go find that.

They are nice to do in between the main story. It also makes the grind seem less like a grind. If I have to kill 100 bees it's nice to know I'm doing it to save a child from a lethal sting. So SE if you look here please add some more meat to the bones of the game.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...th-every-patch

As has been said many times in many different ways...

You cannot build a good house without a foundation. They are essentially rebuilding the foundation on which the game stands; content will come after. If you cannot wait, go play a different game for a year.

Exactly, one cannot build a good house without a foundation. Unfortunately I don't see senseless repetitive killing of monsters as a foundation. To me the foundation of a good game are its lore, world and people.

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Originally Posted by Raldo

As has been said many times in many different ways...

You cannot build a good house without a foundation. They are essentially rebuilding the foundation on which the game stands; content will come after. If you cannot wait, go play a different game for a year.

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For a long time I was like this. I defended SE's failure and hoped they would come out with something great that would blow us all out of the water. This game was in development for 5 years. It's been released for over a year. Compare this game to Rift that came out same time last year.

When it came out it had over a 1000 quests. Now it has even more. I understand we need a solid foundation. You set this before you cut the ribbon. If this had been any other company the plug would have been pulled by now.

If there is no content and I mean real content added I don't know if XIV will make it to 2.0. The people who run this game are business men. At some time they will stop the bleeding of money no matter how many people want the game to continue. Trust me I want this game to succeed but in order for that to happen the players need to be brutally honest and tell SE when they're messing up.

Also on a side note I didn't know this was another thread on this subject. Please pardon me for making another but thanks to those who post.

I'm not defending their horrible launch; I completely agree with everything you've stated as far as their existing quests are concerned. They're simplistic, there are too few, and they didn't even exist at launch. I am merely saying that given the current situation, it is better to wait. If Rift intended to rip out the floorboards and place some new groundwork for their game, I would not expect much content until they were finished with that either.

I'm not sure how anyone can "be like this for a long time" since this is the first time that something like this has happened. I'm not here to justify their launch or any of their past decisions; heck, I'm not even saying that what's coming out for 2.0 is even going to be good. Perhaps I take this stance because my day job is software development, but making stuff on a broken foundation is hard and should be avoided if at all possible.

Here's another analogy for you:
You have to use the restroom, and you are on the highway in a moving car. You can either roll down the window and do your business uncomfortably out the window, or you can wait 'til we get to the rest stop and do it how you're supposed to. Holding it may be unpleasant, but it's generally worth it.

Yes, this forum is here for addressing concerns, and you're welcome to say what you'd like to say. On the other side of that coin is me saying what I like to, but fret not, I have no intention of being a troll and continuing to post in this thread, since I think I got out what I wanted to. I do like making analogies, however! :)

I like the both of you. I had somehow missed any info about Bastion when it was released, so thanks for that Raldo. Bottoms up. And I agree OP, (I'm the OP of the topic King Zeus linked to), there are not enough quests. Raldo may be right, it may be in our best interests to play something else for a while. If you haven't already, may I suggest Everquest 2? It just went F2P and it has over 6,000 quests. It's been keeping me up at nights lately, and I've been neglecting Skyrim, Skyward Sword and FFXIV in favor of it. Although last night I did get down on some Donkey Kong Country Returns for a while. Anyway, I'll stop with the off-topic chit-chat now.

i wouldnt even bother asking for content till 2.0 comes out, cuz mostlikey wont get it till then.

I can see the wisdom with waiting. SE has been redeeming themselves. I just can't see paying for with such little content

This is one of my main issues with the game.

I'm a quester. I need lore and story-driven content to hold my attention.

Like many players at launch, I had believed that levequests could fill that need. That, even though you started with simple kill-x-number-of-monsters quests, they would evolve into something more. Something with substance, like what you see in the opening movie. Unfortunately, they didn't.

So, when they weren't expanded on and, instead, repositioned as solo content, imagine my excitement when Yoshi-P announced the new mission statement about giving us a variety of leveling options. Quests, real quests, were being implemented in the game, that yielded exp and would be suitable for leveling.

That is, if there were enough of them.

To my dismay, the meat and potatoes of leveling then became old-school grinding parties. Something I walked away from when I quit FFXI four years ago. And that is when I pretty much stopped leveling battle classes altogether.

My concern isn't if 1.0 is going to see an influx of quests. I'm pretty sure that it won't. And I've decided my attention is better spent until 2.0 on games like WoW and SW:TOR that can fulfill my need for questing.

But can someone please answer us if FFXIV 2.0 will be restructured so that it will finally include real quest-based leveling? Will quests take center stage and not just be an afterthought?

I don't think they've said one way or another about it.

If they do go that route though, they reeeeally need to up the exp rewards from quests.

I would like to see it.

Remember in patch 1.18 they added encampments that was to be used as quest hubs?

Yoshida: "Also, we’re planning to introduce various new encampments that will serve as quest hubs".... "In this way, we’re going to gradually increase the number of public areas with quest hubs."

Source: Here Letter from the Producer, IX

I wonder why they never did anything with them... :( I had hopes for some interesting open world content thru them. Maybe Hamlet defence in 1.21 will be something good.

IMO we can do without the "Kill 20 rats" quests as a form of progression. I like the current setup where you have repeatable leves to give people a short boost of exp, we can grind if we want, and we have various one-time quests around the world that are a little more story driven and vary between going to places for clicky ???s, killing things for drops, and things inbetween. One of my favorite parts of FFXI was how story driven even the most meaningless questline was, and how some of them had you going all over the world to all sorts of places (even if more often than not the rewards for the quests were absolute garbage). Hopefully in 2.0 when they start focusing more on content than redesigning the core game we will see more of these quests (but with more relevant rewards for your time).

I wouldnt expect them now considering all those scripts and triggers are a lot of work to create and will all ultimately get thrown right into the trash can the second the new world goes live, it's just a waste of development time :(

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Originally Posted by kanjitai

I'm looking forward to the changes they are making in the game but am disappointed with the lack of content. fighting an NM over and over isn't content. Fighting Ifrit and a giant moogle isn't content. I know some people don't like pointless quests. Like go kill this or go find that.

They are nice to do in between the main story. It also makes the grind seem less like a grind. If I have to kill 100 bees it's nice to know I'm doing it to save a child from a lethal sting. So SE if you look here please add some more meat to the bones of the game.

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there are tons of quest in game, what are you talking about

I agree with most of you we need something to do. yeah theres alot of quests but for like DoL or DoW you gotta grind to get them. I do not wanna grind till 2.0 im sorry, you got a couple of dungeons fine and a few primals ok. so how many times can you do those by 2.0. I think things have become a bit slow, quests that take 20min are not quests to me or leves that are repetative with no new ones for 10+ levels is just grindomania to me. we have what maybe a total of 4 or 5 company leves. 2 caravans, a few quest and your rnk is maxed. idk we need stuff that takes weeks to accomplish something that keeps us there and i mean quest wise, like a mini expansion or something, this wait till 2.0 is a long time away. yeah 1.21 is coming but how much of it is gonna be content/quest.. getting new jobs will likely be easy and take what a day then back to grinding. I hope the hamlet will give us something to do. I see alot of people have grinded to 50 on everything already.. I mean what are those people gonna do.. the achievements are great but another grind, something to do yes but a repetative thing again. I dont vent much this is definatly one of them. oh and another thing I see 2.0 in almost every thread.. we got over a year for that we needs quests/content new leves and in abundance. the engine thing or graphics or system resorces are bogged down for new stuff to do idk about that, I understand everything is being focused on well you know 2.0 but we need to have stuff that keeps our attention now. I see alot of people log in.. do the new patch in a day or 2 or maybe even 5 days, and then JUST LIKE THAT THERE GONE... they dont log in till next patch, thats not good.