Can we get steel cyclone and inner beast unlinked from Decimate and Fell Cleave please
Or at least the option to unlink all skills from each other in the settings so we can make hot bars that show the actual names of skills instead of a completely different skill
I realize the intent was to declutter the skills but I think enough damage was done removing all the cross class abilities. I have so much free space now my hot bars are barren. I like having separate locations for these skills and now I have multiple of the same name it's confusing.
The same goes for lower level skills on other classes that upgrade, if you don't want them used in higher levels that's fine, grey them out... But give me the option to turn the auto change/upgrade system on/off please
Unlink warrior skills
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06-17-2017, 08:29 AMBlindheartUnlink warrior skills
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06-17-2017, 08:59 AMRagology
For now, you might be able to prepare a macro that will simultaneously add and remove the skills from your bar whenever you switch into a stance.
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06-17-2017, 11:28 PMdragonseth07
I'm afraid I don't understand the purpose of this request. The skills auto changing skills are just a better system.
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06-18-2017, 12:18 AMCarvaka
That macro idea may work, just pop the skill in one, set the icon to steel cyclone or decimate as you please and bobs your uncle. Then you can have it whereever you want.
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06-18-2017, 02:55 AMBazFamrit
This is above and beyond nitpicking.
I used to have macros to swap out those skills because they do the same thing pretty much. Bow SE does it for us. How about you fill those empty slots with the new skills you get from 60 to 70...
We used to use macros to simplify our hotbars and now people are mad that SE did the work for them? Wow... -
06-18-2017, 05:07 AMTaranTatsuuchiWish it did this with stuff like Drearwyrm trance/deathflare...Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonseth07
Really don't need dradwyrm trance once you activated it, it should swap to deathflare when it's active.
Like it does in pvp.... -
06-18-2017, 06:57 AMBlindheartI want to be able to see the right skill name in my hot bar where I have it set, if I'm tanking I have hot bar setup one way, when I'm DPS it's another way, seeing the wrong skill names on my hotbar is confusing about what bar I have loaded. You may think its a better system and that's fine, like I said above I would be happy with an option to turn this new system off so I can manage skills myself. Everybody wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonseth07
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06-18-2017, 12:17 PMdragonseth07Under what circumstances would you see the wrong skill name? That's what I'm not seeing here. Inner Beast is out for Defiance. Fell Cleave is out for Deliverance. There's no way to have the wrong one up. It's impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindheart
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06-18-2017, 03:41 PMBlindheartI want to see fell cleave when I'm in Defiance, that's what I'm saying. I want my skills to have separate buttons that I can see at the same time. Even if it is grayed out and inactive, just like it used to be. Right now, even with no stance up I can only see one skill name and not both even if they are separately created buttons.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonseth07
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06-18-2017, 04:46 PMTaranTatsuuchiI'm not very familiar with warrior's skills, so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindheart
Perhaps you could explain what benefits you get for having them all visible, even if they are exclusive to whichever stance you're in?
From what I've heard about these skills, I don't see the need to have them all visible at once.
Just the ones that can be used in the current stance. -
06-18-2017, 04:58 PMmagnanimousCynic
Let me get this straight.
You want WAR to not have linked skills, therefor increasing button bloat, because your hotbars are too empty and you want to see the other stances skills for some reason? -
06-18-2017, 07:13 PMRagology
Another Macro idea would be to make 2 macro buttons
/ac "fell cleave"
/micon "fell cleave"
and another that says
/ac "inner beast"
/micon "inner beast"
I don't know if the icons will grey out when the moves aren't available but at least the images shouldn't swap out when you switch stances. -
06-18-2017, 07:20 PMArgyle_DarkheartYeah, but why though??? It's literally pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindheart
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06-18-2017, 08:02 PMBrannigan
I thought I had seen every complaint possible about the expansion but this and the Shield Oath/Sheltron thread have caused me to reconsider.
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06-18-2017, 08:31 PMShurrikhan
I'd rather see it done further, such as by activating Deliverance on swapping to Warrior and than combining it and Defiance as well to toggle back and forth...
Unlike the gaudy and information-displacing gauges, this seems like an objectively and purely good change to me. -
06-19-2017, 03:37 AMBlindheartAs I have stated, I have my skills setup differently for each stance, suddenly seeing the wrong skills on my hotbar is confusing and has lead to mistakes in gameplay already for me. As I have also said I would be happy with an option in settings to turn this new feature off. Let me manage my own skills. This goes really for any class that has skills that upgrade, let me choose to have a button that says ruin 1 or aero 1 or whatever just let it be grayed out if I'm not supposed to be using it. If they want to offer a way to condense skills that's great, but give me the option to not have this as well. I like having many buttons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart
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06-19-2017, 06:56 AMTemjiu
I get the request. and I can empathize. there are plenty of things in the game that don't make sense to me, and are just clumsy and of poor design. But I don't see them changing the button setup for warriors in the near future. They have too much fine tuning for all the classes to do as it is, and outside of that, there are far more QoL changes needed in the game that impact everyone. This change would only impact a very small portion of the population.
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06-19-2017, 11:51 PMYasminouGenuine question: Do you have a macro to change your hotbars layout?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blindheart
If so, why do you want to place unavailable skills on your hotbars? I mean, if I understand correctly saying "I see the wrong skill" means you see Inner Beast instead of Fell Cleave. But you seeing Inner Beast means you are in Defiance or neither stance, while you seeing Fell Cleave means you are in Delivrance.
If you do not have any macro, I can only guess that you used to have Inner Beast and Fell Cleave on two different keys.
I think this is the part people struggle to understand, what is the difference in term of "mistakes in gameplay" between seeing a grey Fell Cleave and an Inner Beast besides using this Inner Beast when pressing the key by mistake (fat finger or anything)? -
06-20-2017, 01:03 AMCasualty
I am legitimately confused what mistakes in gameplay can be made. Your kit from stance to stances is almost entirely identical. It differs (sort of) by 3 abilities, each mirroring each other. 1 single target spender, 1 AoE spender, and one self buff spender. Instead of those being 6 abilities, it was truncated to 3. Your single target button (Inner Beast/Fell Cleave) will always be that, likewise the rest.
Why would your hotbars be different per stance if everything is the same? I am genuinely curious as I can't wrap my head around it.