Some friends and I are going to start the climb to floor 200 tonight and basically I was curious how daunting of a task this is? We'll be a party of 4 with healer (SCH), tank (DRK or WAR), and 2 dd(NIN or SMN, BLM or MCH). Would this be a good comp or are we better off doing something different? Our weapons/armor are all around 70. Also how would you compare the difficulty of the last 20 or so floors?
PotD floors 100+ questions, please help!
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06-13-2017, 02:15 AMFumaPotD floors 100+ questions, please help!
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06-13-2017, 02:19 AMPence
I've never tried it, but not having capped weapon/armour is probably a bad thing. And weird? You're basically running endgame content without gearing. Not the demo 100+ was built for.
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06-13-2017, 02:22 AMFumaI've already obtained 1 kinna weapon from PotD and based off what I've calculated we should be hitting 99/99 around floor 120-125 or so which is well before the difficulty ramps up. So personally I don't think it's that weird. But thanks for your opinion from someone who has never tried it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pence
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06-13-2017, 02:26 AMRyel
Did this not too long ago, entering 100+ around 70/70 is fine as long as you hit 99/99 before 150+.
This is a pretty good guide for reference: The Way to 200: A Guide to Palace of the Dead Floors 101+ -
06-13-2017, 02:29 AMPenceAs I said i've never done it. But 99/99 would be easier. Thanks for the passive aggression, I hope you don't wipe early. :)Quote:
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06-13-2017, 02:29 AMFumaThank you, my google skills were failing me when I tried to look for something earlier at work.Quote:
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06-13-2017, 02:31 AMLissandra
I'd advise bringing along a SMN for that possible extra raise. But if worse comes to worse and pretty much everyone is good as dead, if you have a raising pomander, pop it and whichever two are the last ones standing go run somewhere with no mobs and is safe (to die there). You'll raise there on the spot and not immediately get mauled.
The last 20 floors isn't hard per se, you just need to be careful. The patrols that are a pest is the Chimeras. Their voice moves are one shots. Also, always try to pull one into a open area with ample room to run around. -
06-13-2017, 02:31 AMFumaRead what you originally posted and then sit back and think why I would give a response like that. :)Quote:
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06-13-2017, 02:33 AMFumaOne strat I was thinking was doing a party comp like this... healer (SCH), tank (DRK), offtank/dd (WAR), and dd (SMN). Just to give us an added safety blanket encase someone gets one shotted or stepping on a landmine at a bad time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lissandra
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06-13-2017, 02:37 AMMaero
150+, 99/99 is for sure best.
We have made it to 170 many times .. ugh but went as far as 178 but died to a stupid trap, lol
Enemies definately hit very hard in later floors and especially if it's enemy traps you can get overwhelmed quickly
The floor 170 boss as example (before we knew certain mechanics) one single attack hit for over 20K, we have since learned -
06-13-2017, 02:38 AMLissandraThe floor 180 boss is Behemoth. He's a dps race. I personally never did it with 2 tanks in the group, and neither do I know how strong WARs can actually be, but perhaps you guys can pull it off. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fuma
EDIT: I also edited my previous post in case you didn't notice. I forgot the raising pomander is moot if the last person dies and tries to get raised. You fail it. So it is the last 2 people. Both go to separate safe spots; the first of the two to die will re-raise while the other dies in vain. :p -
06-13-2017, 02:41 AMGalactimus
Everything is pretty simple up to 179 and you'll easily cap your weapons and armor before then. 150, 160, and 170 are pushovers when you are 99/99. However, you'll definitely want to save 3 of every Pomander for 180+. Don't underestimate King Behemoth on 180. Use three strength pomanders, three steel pomanders, and Lust. We survived with a few hundred HP. If you aggro two Chimera's at once on 181-189 you either pop a witching/rage or you're back to Floor 50 in 10 seconds (dodging Ram's voice and Dragon's voice at the same time isn't pretty.) And floor 191+ may feel safer than 181 but if you haven't saved your Serenity pomanders you'll end up on Floor 199 with your items locked, your abilities locked, and your time running out.
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06-13-2017, 02:46 AMTsumdereLiss said it before but I'll say it again, Behemoth (floor 180) is a DPS race and there is a few mobs (i.e. Crawlers) that very short enrage timers and will wipe the party if not killed before. The enrage timer in my experience is 30 seconds to a minute, it's really fast. Not to mention you want to kill the wandering chimeras on the later floors ASAP because if another chimera wanders into your path while you are still killing the first one, you have to use a pomander of rage/witching or die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuma
SMN and NIN sound like the best DPS to bring. That extra raise on SMN is the bees knees and saved many a wipe (finished with PLD/SMN/BRD/AST).
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06-13-2017, 03:01 AMManuelBravo
Best advice I can give you would be make sure everyone is 99/99 1 Tank 1 healer and I would take blm's if possible have some of the highest DMG outputs for the upcoming floors. You can use other dps yet seems that they will take longer to kill. The upcoming floors are pretty much more advance mobs yet overall for the most part the same. Oh also lots and lots of mimics.
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06-13-2017, 09:36 PMSuperNoob
Gotten a lot of lure. Reach 187 with no pomander...
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06-13-2017, 10:02 PMMisterLucie
SAVE YOUR POMANDERS. Seriously, having 3 of everything in the last 20 floors (191+ specifically) will make things a breeze.
I did it in a group of WAR/WHM/WHM/BRD and it was pretty easy, you just have to know the individual monster's mechanics and make very careful pulls while also being mindful of your timer. It can get pretty tight at 191-200.
Specific monsters to look out for, off the top of my head.
Chimeras - do all the typical Chimera abilities, anything they hit you with will one shot, can be silenced.
Flood Dragons - randomly hit a party member with a targeted AOE, leaves a DoT that needs to be dispelled IMMEDIATELY because it ticks for insane damage.
Ahrimans - Cast Level 5 Death that will instantly kill (I think in a cone in front of it?) Save stuns and knockbacks for that cast.
Knights - Casts a donut AoE when they pull that will kill anyone sitting at mid range. Stack on top of them.
Bird - Casts Revelation, small circular aoe targeted on someone, that will one shot and self buffs haste. Aoe is almost unavoidable after the haste buff, so try to kill them quickly.
Anzu - Body slams random party members for aoe damage + vuln debuff, try not to stack. -
06-13-2017, 10:07 PMAkashiXI
Hey, I recently just did this with some of my static (two days ago) so I can give advice. Having a Ninja/SMN or BLM combo is ideal for both trash pulls and boss fights. Paladin is the best tank due to having both silence and stun, more notably having stun on GCD for floors with no abilities. Stock up your pomanders for floor 190+ as the debuffs for floors are much more frequent and stack in terrible ways (we had two no items no abilities, and two no abilities with gloom). Finally, try to get as close to capping your aether as possible, as higher level bosses will take a lot to finish. Good luck!