4 Days Until Cleric Stance is Dead

No this isn't a thread to complain that I don't want to dps. I actually enjoy dpsing. This is a thread to celebrate the death of this clunky skill that never turned off when you wanted it to.

Let's walk through memory lane about the times CS has failed us. This thread was inspired by a something that just happened to me last night. I almost wiped my entire BEX WT party because I was solo healer, popped over into CS to drop dots, and it would NOT turn back off. I was able to eventually get it off and raise the dead folks, but it was a close thing. They all probably think I'm a horrible healer, when I solo heal that all the time.

What memories are you glad you won't have to experience again?

You gonna put Lilies on its grave? >w>

I hace so many experiences that I can't make just namr one lol. But I hate it on AST the most because you only have one instant heal, so less chance of recovery for those oops moments. I swear this one change is what I'm looking forward to the most. I love to dps and heal but it was so clunky and even worst on controller with how I had to set up my hot bar.

I can't name the number of times I have used Tetra under CS >.<

The only time Cleric Stance ever failed me, is when i forget to turn it on after a burst heal or prepull. It hadnt screwed my over healing wise in.. i can't even remember when.

Rip to that sweet +10% DPS boost.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

What memories are you glad you won't have to experience again?

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I'm glad I won't have to experience healers who blame CS for their mistakes.

its extra embarassing when you tell a tank to pull everytbing and just after youre done using dots and bane cleric just does its lovely thing and youre stuck doing baby pulls all that run because the tank doesnt trust you anymore :(

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Originally Posted by Pence

I'm glad I won't have to experience healers who blame CS for their mistakes.

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If you have never experienced clicks not being recognized/double recognized then definitely consider yourself lucky. I haven't had it happen TOO frequently, but it has happened.... and not with just CS, that is just the one that is most painful.

edit: That is not to say that people wouldn't (or haven't) used it as an excuse before.... but it does happen.

I cant wait til its gone. I've never minded stance dancing and I like it but only recently have I been noticing all the times I've accidently healed in cleric stance. and its jarring. lol I can't wait til I don't have to worry about that no more.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

This is a thread to celebrate the death of this clunky skill that never turned off when you wanted it to.

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Preach, friend. :D

I'm hyperventilating.

4 days until the death of SCH AoE. (*˘︶˘*) Already partying~

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Originally Posted by joannaluttrell

If you have never experienced clicks not being recognized/double recognized then definitely consider yourself lucky. I haven't had it happen TOO frequently, but it has happened.... and not with just CS, that is just the one that is most painful.

edit: That is not to say that people wouldn't (or haven't) used it as an excuse before.... but it does happen.

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Exactly. I play on Steam and for some reason it just wouldn't behave yesterday. It was freezing me when zoning into instances and there was lag when using my skills. It was right at the serpents. I dropped DS'd regens on the tanks, swapped to CS to drop dots on my target, then was heading back off CS to Medica II the party once aggro had been firmly established. And Steam just wouldn't cooperate. Ended up restarting my entire system after that and it behaved the rest of the night.

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

4 days until the death of SCH AoE. (*˘︶˘*) Already partying~

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Go away Thundah D:< In the name of Furryfoot I rebuke thee, Demon of the anti-Healer DPS. Go back to the tank forums from which you came D:<<<< *Throws handfuls of salt, dried from the tears of soon to be crippled SCHs*

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Originally Posted by joannaluttrell

If you have never experienced clicks not being recognized/double recognized then definitely consider yourself lucky. I haven't had it happen TOO frequently, but it has happened.... and not with just CS, that is just the one that is most painful.

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This!! At some point they changed something and the game started losing buttton presses routinely. Happens all the time. You have to be paranoid and make sure the skill actually goes off, and many times it doesn't. So you press it again, and it fails again. I am very cautious about this on CS but it also often breaks my BLM rotation and drops enochian.

I'm going to be so happy, but my muscle memory is going to get me so many times whenever i want to do damage. I'll keep the new cleric stance in the same place, so that way when i press it it won't be something terribly wrong.

I think the worst part about Cleric Stance was when you realize the very moment you activated it by accident at the worst possible moment. You try to do everything you can. Every ability. Your best heals. All of it. And yet, despite your best efforts, the tank still dies. :(

Unless you had Benediction. In which case you carried on like nothing happened. Lucky ducks.

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Originally Posted by Averax

I'm going to be so happy, but my muscle memory is going to get me so many times whenever i want to do damage. I'll keep the new cleric stance in the same place, so that way when i press it it won't be something terribly wrong.

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Yes! Muscle memory is going to mess me up so much.

So glad this atrocity is getting the boot (unless you want a tad more damage added on). Stance dancing got so frustrating at times. Especially when the tank keeps dropping slowly on health, then a HUGE drop and you're like NOOOOOOOO *throws heal*

Shewww...but WAIT!

You notice you only healed like 550 HP. CS is on!

I still think SE put it in to troll. Like mmhmm, you THOUGHT you was gonna catch that. ;D

To all those tank I murdered by mistake because of CS trying to dps my ass off, Amen~

*Switches on Cleric Stance thinking I turned it off
> Critical! You heal for 1000 HP!
*Switches off Cleric Stance thinking I turned it on
>Critical! Assize deals 500 dmg!

I think the worst were the couple times I forgot to turn it off after a group of mobs. Next pull, toss regen on the tank, turn cleric stance off, "dps" a bit, turn cleric stance on, try to heal... use benediction, wait a couple seconds, turn cleric stance off, cast regen, pretend nothing happened.

x3 Lustrates on my tank last night in the Aery, and he still died. Lag stance at its best.

Bye-bye Cleric Stance. You won't be missed. At least, not by me.

Theses time I double click the cleric stance to remove it and made my party wipe on raid while there was heavy aoe damages.
Theses time I clicked on it to remove it because, at this moment, I thought I had it but I didn't.
Theses time when I was dpsing without it.
Theses I spammed single target heal like hell and it didn't heal properly because Cleric didn't remove.

So many fail that happen any time at on any content. It's funny to think about it now.
But aside these fail I also will have good memories to stance dancing cause I found that fun to plan the best moment to do it and drop it.

I will miss it :'(

I won't miss it give me that full potency Assize on both healing and damage I need it I FUCKING NEED IT

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Originally Posted by KDSilver

But aside these fail I also will have good memories to stance dancing cause I found that fun to plan the best moment to do it and drop it.

I will miss it :'(

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Yeah I'll miss that part a little, too. When cleric stance behaved, it was pretty awesome. It's just most of the time it was like a cat and decided on the fly if it was going to come over to be pet.

When benediction is not available, I realize I've just wasted tetra and CS stance is stuck in that weird spot when it's active and shows a cooldown, I cast a stoneskin and hope it will keep the tank alive long enough for me to get out of CS. With stoneskin now gone, I am really glad they changed CS.

It's gonna take a long time to get CS out of my head now.

I know I'll instinctively keep hitting the hotkey to switch in and out of it.

I'll probably leave that hotkey empty or I know I'll overuse whatever skill I associate with it.

Me from two YEARS ago:

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Originally Posted by RichardButte

Better yet, remove CS entirely and have healers get their damage boost from their mind stat instead of int, adjust the spell damages accordingly, and let their mana management be the only thing determining how well they DPS, instead of how well they clumsily flip the CS switch on and off.

Also, accuracy is a dumb stat that's a hold over from when RPGs had two buttons. WoW got rid of all flavors of it for good reason (and they had like 3 different stats that translated into accuracy, lawl...).

Remove that crap and just let player attacks hit. Crit chance is enough RNG as it is.

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I'm not saying they listened to ME specifically, but it's clear they're on at least somewhat of the same wavelength.

I don't really get all of the anecdotes about Cleric Stance having a mind of its own, but I'm ready to see it go just to cut it out of the healer discussions.

Besides, as much as I like to talk about CS not adding real complexity or value to healer gameplay past the beginner experience, it is undeniably a powerful feature to be able to use damaging GCDs at will and with zero regard for the following 5 seconds. We'll be able to weave in attacks even in extremely tight places and/or when not knowing the full encounter.

Healers may be in a place between skeptical and outright alarmed (except for AST, which has pretty much no reason to be dissatisfied based on preliminary info), but we will probably come out of this patch pretty damned powerful in at least this sense.