Did NOT see that one coming!Quote:
Intelligence
•Attack Magic Potency
•Damage dealt by puglist
1.20 is more of an adjustment than i thought.
New Parameter Effects (INT = PUG DMG ect)
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12-13-2011, 12:41 PMAvraymNew Parameter Effects (INT = PUG DMG ect)
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12-13-2011, 12:42 PMgrandm
at this rate PUG is going to get RDM as second job :P
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12-13-2011, 12:42 PMNadienKirisameThere was a few other threads on this subject of the bonus stats... that is for the auto attack damage bonus only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avraym
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12-13-2011, 12:44 PMJinrya-Geki
I figured there would be a lot of pissed Pugilists. Haven't seen a thread on it so I am guessing no?
But I can see Intelligence as a main stat for pugilists, when you are modeled after Dudely from Streetfighter. -
12-13-2011, 12:44 PMAvraymAre you sure? Because all the other parts include the word ARMS. Pug just says "Damage deal by pugilist".Quote:
Originally Posted by NadienKirisame
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12-13-2011, 12:46 PMNadienKirisameWell PGL and MNK are going to have more magic enhanced elemental attacks as it seems... so in a way this sort of does make sense...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki
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12-13-2011, 12:46 PMDoctorMog
Apparently Pug's need to be Intelligent to punch things in the face.
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12-13-2011, 12:47 PMNadienKirisameThey are actually finding there are a lot of typos/mistakes in the post... they have been correcting them as they catch them though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Avraym
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12-13-2011, 12:52 PMgrandm
PUG using Intelligence made more sense than GLD using Mind, when i first thought of it, i can only guess GLDs mind is for PLD. but with PUGs elemental attacks and defence its not a huge surprise to use intelligence
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12-13-2011, 12:57 PMIlean
If you don't get INT+STR you don't get the kind of fighter PUG is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...-oEVU7U#t=113s
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12-13-2011, 01:03 PMJinrya-Geki
Monks are the masters of the mind and body!
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12-13-2011, 01:05 PMCoglinWhich still sounds odd due to the fact that we have a stat named "mind", yet as a PUG we use "int" instead......Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki
Havingsaid that, yeah I agree with you though. -
12-13-2011, 02:43 PMKiote
It's a good thing there is so much melee armour with Int on it.. oh wait...
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12-13-2011, 03:04 PMSoukyuu
It was pretty clear we would need Int as soon as they told us we'd have "stances" that leech MP, good to see they also added another incentive to put points to Int.
Armor not having Int is not an issue, rather it saves you points you can allocate for Int for example. Or any other stat you prefer to push further (Str). -
12-13-2011, 04:03 PMNeptunePrepare to be adjusted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avraym
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12-13-2011, 04:57 PMXoo
For crying out loud, the abbreviation for Pugilist is PGL, not PUG!
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12-13-2011, 05:06 PMFiron
I knew pgl needed int for something cause when 1.19 dropped i had 230 int <.<
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12-13-2011, 06:20 PMAlise
As said before, PGL become jack of all trade, the master of none.
With damage attribute share between STR and INT, make it even harder to build up dps. Would be easier if it had been DEX+STR.
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12-13-2011, 06:22 PMJacienObligatory repost: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76MNVXkzHSgQuote:
Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki
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12-13-2011, 06:23 PMJacienPretty Gamer LadiesQuote:
Originally Posted by Xoo
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12-13-2011, 06:24 PMFironthat makes no sense how are they an jack of trades....What se did was simple since we use ele stances to make our attacks stronger int is best second mod for attacks,,,Quote:
Originally Posted by Alise
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12-13-2011, 06:29 PMviion
The reason its not MND is because XI uses MND on PUG and this is not XI its XIV, they have to be different, so its INT. true story.
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12-13-2011, 06:37 PMEstelliosPGL now have something Materia-wise they can do with the previously useless Head slot. They can also use INT on their weapons as well as Fire/Earth/whatever Potency if you want to specialize different H2H.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiote
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12-13-2011, 07:34 PMMeowMeow
I like the change. PUG (Pgl abbreviation is dumb :P) is meant to do both physical and magical damage. It only makes sense they'd use the stats that boost both to increase their damage. I was hoping PUG would get auto-refresh or something this patch to help with the MP costs, but I guess that's exclusive to the mage classes. Oh well, we shall see how the new self-absorbent MP-sponge DPS goes.
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12-13-2011, 07:53 PMDeli
XD so addicting I must force myself to stop watching.
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12-13-2011, 08:04 PMShneibel
why make a big fus about INT add dmg for PUG ? ._.
PUG have toggle add elemental dmg , elemental dmg inrease by INT as ingame mechanic so in some point thing does connect
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Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki
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Originally Posted by Coglin
the "mind" it mean is the though = brain = intelligent = mental stable (mean no panic, no surprise, no doubt)
This doesn't only apply to Monk, it apply to all fighting art
not the "mind" in game
Try to understand/know about thing before you say anything and dont compare reality theory vs gaming theory cos it is pue pointlessQuote:
Healing Magic Potency
Magic Accuracy
Damage dealt by gladiator, thaumaturge, and conjurer arms
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12-13-2011, 08:05 PMVackashken
PUG truly looks like its either going to sink or swim - no middle ground.
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12-13-2011, 08:10 PMDeliI think it's just hard to find a gear that's boost both str and int... (even the old system -str to +int or -int to +str)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shneibel
most of melee gears are str dex vit tie together.
and most INT boost gears are mage only.
Maybe the rings and the new stat boost crafting can change it.
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12-13-2011, 08:50 PMShneibelthat s why the game have materia right ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deli
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12-13-2011, 08:54 PMXooJoin Date:Mar 2011Quote:
Originally Posted by Vackashken
Posts:707Character:Vackashken Zuth
World:Fabul
Main Class:PGL Lv 50
Otherwise it sounds like you're talking about a little, ugly annoying dog. -
12-13-2011, 09:41 PMShneibelbig deal iddQuote:
Originally Posted by Xoo
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12-13-2011, 10:18 PMKlive
I guess something like this was coming when I saw you could meld INT materia into pug weapons. Same for gla and mind as well.
To what materia to what weapons they can be bond, as been showing what the dev team has had in mind for the classes. -
12-13-2011, 10:26 PMCoglinWell, no, they didn't single out PGL for an off stat becauseof elemental stances, or any other reason, they gave every class an off stat that contributes to AA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firon
Thank you captain obvious. It was a comment referring to the phrased he used compared to the in game stats avaliable, and the one chosen. Refering to the phrase itself not the reasoning of SE for choing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shneibel
You should of used the bolded portion that you wrote and applied it to you thought process, or lack there of before making this post. -
12-13-2011, 10:40 PMGriss
Guessing a bunch of people zoomed right past this one as well
Enhanced Blindside: Adds a physical attack bonus to Blindside based on INT.
How ever the weight of these bonuses particularly these auto attack ones have yet to be seen. -
12-14-2011, 12:57 AMnorthernskySame with Arc, and look at the mp pools too, we've had clues for a whileQuote:
Originally Posted by Klive
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12-14-2011, 01:00 AMAtryxEtairCheck patch notes again. There are specific traits and abilities that have "based on [stat]" in their description. EX. Blindside; Based on INT.Quote:
Originally Posted by NadienKirisame
Edit: That was clarified. No idea how I didn't see that.