Or, at the very least, that's what looks like SE trying to do in 5.0, after all, the class has become almost useless now in 4.0.
So, it's best to try to reduce the number of players who plays it as much as possible, and it is exactly what is going to happen.
WHM in static groups? Forget about it, you might be luck if people even leave WHM slot open in the party finder...
WHM is gonna be removed from the game.
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06-02-2017, 11:22 PMCleberWHM is gonna be removed from the game.
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06-02-2017, 11:23 PMThe_Shang
Another one of these threads? ffs...
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06-02-2017, 11:42 PMSorimachi87
Final Fantasy without White Mage?
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06-02-2017, 11:43 PMFjaere
They should just delete AST and force people to play WHM
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06-02-2017, 11:44 PMRaijinSupreme
Like seriously, another thread?
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06-02-2017, 11:46 PMDementThey should just start deleting these threads and force everyone to post in one thread no matter how super amazing and original they perceive their snarky comments to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fjaere
I get it... WHM got shafted but damn there's already at least 3-5 active "WHM got shafted/Delete WHM/RIPWHM" threads that are available. -
06-02-2017, 11:50 PMdlgc
I am not sure if op was being sarcastic or having a "covfefe" moment. Don't mind me however, I am only here for the post count!
Cheers,
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06-02-2017, 11:53 PMKeikunJust like everyone else complaining about others posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by dlgc
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06-02-2017, 11:58 PMPaladinleeds
White Mage is completely iconic in the Final Fantasy universe. They won't remove it. The backlash would be so strong, it'd kill the game. I mean one needs only look at the storms being unleashed right now over WHM getting the shaft to see what would happen if they actually deleted it. It would also start getting to a point where it's not even Final Fantasy in terms of its content. It just becomes a World of Fantasy XIV per se. Not Final Fantasy XIV.
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06-03-2017, 12:02 AMGaj85
It is still going to be a strong healing class so I really don't understand what all the anger is about?
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06-03-2017, 12:06 AMXlantaa
It is necessary make such drama from this? If the WHM is not good, it will be fixed patch after patch. Do you think this is even the definitive jobs? Heavensward patched almost ll classes in the few weeks after launch. What you will think will happen on Stormblood? The same. If WHm is bad, they will patch it, or maybe nerf the other ones, who knows.
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06-03-2017, 12:07 AMLeigaonThey just have to overreact, something to do until 4.0. People have a difficult time with this and being told something other than what they want to hear..and this is how they break down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaj85
It might turn into one of those "I'm quitting. I'm going away and..and..never coming back! Don't try to stop me! (whisper: don't let them see you cry.) You're going to wake up one day and say "Where..where is Marian? Where?" and you're going to cry, you're going to miss me and you don't know it yet!" #noonewillmissyouQuote:
Originally Posted by Lexia
Same person June 15th sets alarm clock for 2 a.m. on the 16th to get ready for early access. Just like the rest of them. But hey at least this person didn't put in 8 different posts without trying to hit the edit button.
"I've been a hardcore MMORPG player all my life! I've seen it all! There's nothing new you can throw at me! bah, character limit!"
...hit the edit button.
"Well how am I supposed to know THAT?!"
Or like that person that said they can't quit b/c their boyfriend refuses to LET HER. Figure that one out.
I thought my little SMN's were bad because all they care about is what their egi's look like over actual pet problems. I gotta say, some of these whm's need a pacifier to get added to the pre-order bonus. I'm even running into people that don't play the job! Why are you going to call out a job to be removed from the game if you don't even touch it?
"Well it means they'll play a bad healer class"
Nope, fun fact #8: A crap player will stand in the same amount of shi$t playing AST as they will playing WHM. Job stones doesn't make a player care or react better.
But pointing this all back at myself, I'm feeding the chicken because I keep coming back on here during the day to find useful information like that one person who put up that 19 page summoner "lets clear the air" document and get some stuff right. -
06-03-2017, 12:10 AMLexia
This like one of those "XIV servers shutting down" threads?
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06-03-2017, 12:21 AMUltimatecaliburA fair amount of it is kneejerk reactions to changes that are being read out of context.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaj85
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06-03-2017, 12:25 AMSelova
It's hysterical that people are claiming that white mage is dead/not viable when the only thing they are basing this off of is pure speculation. The expansion isn't out yet, 4.0 isn't even out yet. FFXIV doesnt have PTRs for testing jobs so no one has any kind of proof about the state white mage will be in.
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06-03-2017, 12:32 AMCleber
Come on guys, even today, on the very normal party finder, it's pretty common to see the creators of the groups to block WHM slots and leave only SCH/AST open, it happens quite often, also, have you seen PFs with AST blocked? I don't think so...
So now that the different is soooooo high (much bigger than it is at moment) to the point where there is really no reason to play WHM, almost whatever WHM can do AST can do equal or better (I sais almost, not everything), and this thing still has balance, then you can already imagine the difficult for WHM player to find a very common static, let alone SHC or HC groups, in those groups WHM is around 99% extinct, and I doubt anyone here will say the opposite... -
06-03-2017, 12:43 AMDementI don't really see it that often as no content requires AST/SCH. I haven't seen PFs with AST blocked because why block any job? You need a healer, get a healer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleber
Joining a static is a very different beast in and of itself. If you join a static, be it common, but especially hardcore groups, you should be prepared to learn and play whatever job is needed in that static. Some statics will undoubtedly take WHMs into content and that's fine. Some statics will want to have the extra utility of AST and SCH and that's fine too. I started this game as a MNK with 0 desire to learn to tank. I main WAR now because my FC static needed an off tank for Twintania. -
06-03-2017, 12:43 AMXlantaaMaybe it is that entlited attitude of exclude people what is wrong and not the job. Maybe we need fix that attitude. My static have a Monk and White Mage. We didn't have any problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleber
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06-03-2017, 12:48 AMCleberAt moment, I also think that WHM, except for balance, can do as good as an AST, but I'm taking in consideration the new skill and the skills abilities of the new two classes, they are basically worlds apart. =(Quote:
Originally Posted by Xlantaa
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06-03-2017, 12:55 AMZojhaThe players don't invent a meta, they merely discover it. The devs unwittingly create the meta with the way they design things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xlantaa
Thus, if a meta is undesirable, the only ones you can blame are the devs. They were the ones to create it, they are in charge of demolishing it. The players just follow it.