Why healers shouldn't DPS

After much discussion and learning from an experienced healer who has "cleared hard content", I am finally enlightened and would like to share with the world what I have learned and why DPSing as a healer is against Yoshi P's desires and hence a sin.

A) You can't spell HEALER without "HEAL". But no matter how you rearrange the letters, you can't spell "DPS" from "HEALER". There is no D (damage), P (per), or S (second) in the word "healer". Clearly, this is intended by Yoshi P as a means to subtlely tell us healers should heal (since you can spell "heal" from the letters in "healer"), but not do damage (since you can't spell "DPS" from "healer").

B) The game explicitly encourages you to stand in AoEs by example:

http://i.imgur.com/ukHlEYH.png

Clearly, players are NOT meant to avoid AoEs. They are meant to take the damage and you as a healer need to heal through it. Otherwise, the game won't let NPCs in Hall of the Novice stand in AoEs. If everyone stood in AoEs, the way the game is meant to be played as Yoshi P intended, then healers will not have time to do DPS. Healers are only doing DPS because people are playing the game wrongly.

C) Ad Hominem attacks on healers who don't DPS

As evidence from several other threads, people would rather try an insult and bully healers who don't DPS than actually consider the idea that there is another way to play, and that is what Yoshi P encourages. Because of all the ad hominem attacks going around, people forget to try to play the game the way Yoshi P intended.

D) Using HoTs only is lazy

Healers who DPS mostly only rely on HoT (healing over time) spells. These healers claim they are only healing 17% of the time... Now, if you're healing only 17% of the time, and healing is your main job... you're only working 17% of the time. That is like going to the office as a programmer, and only programming 17% of the time. And you spend 83% of your time watching videos. This is what healers who DPS are like. They heal 17% of the time and spend 83% of their time NOT healing. Tell me who is the lazy healer here.

E) The dungeons have a 90 minutes time limit

Yoshi P said he designed the game with NO healer DPS in mind, which is why dungeons have a 90 minutes time limit. If Yoshi P encourages healer DPS, then why would dungeons have a 90 minutes time limit? Right now there are too many speedrunning groups, with healers doing DPS and being lazy and not healing. They are not playing the game the way Yoshi P intended. If it was intended by Yoshi P for healers to DPS, then we will see dungeons have a shorter time limit closer to the clear times the speedrunning groups achieve. But right now, it's at 90 minutes, and speedrunning groups are only spending 15% of the time limit in a dungeon, which is completely against how Yoshi P designed the game.

F) Healers play healers because they want to heal. They don't want to DPS.

G) Your heals are very bad in cleric stance. If Yoshi P intended for healers to do damage, then why would your heals be very bad when in cleric stance? Cleric stance is meant for healers to do damage when they are alone doing FATEs or quests. They have their chocobos to heal them so they're a DPS. In dungeons you can't pull that off because if you go into cleric stance, you can't heal and people will die. If a healer is using Cleric Stance in a dungeon that means they're being lazy and will cause a wipe since their heals won't be high enough to counteract the incoming damage.

H) The White Mage "lily" mechanic is a sign from Yoshi P to tell healers to start healing more. Why isn't the "lily" mechanic tied with damage? It's tied with healing because Yoshi P knows the NA community is too toxic and healers don't want to be healers (which is why you have healers healing only 17% of the time). Yoshi P is telling us, with the lily mechanic, to start healing again otherwise you'll never get lilies.

Am i wrong or is this post an exact copy of the one inside the "We are all DD's now"-topic?

Anyways, its not really helpfull to reopen a new topic when the old one just died down, nor to reuse the same arguements 10 times over.

Also, a whole lot of what you write is full of speculation and just your interpretation.

(and yes, i replied as if his post was meant to be serious. I know its not, but hey, let's try)

It's Skyrior XD

Another informative post, Thanks KisaiTenshi for looking out for the true healers!~~~

1000 % agree ty skyrior u tell them wats wat

Go dps lazy healer

This is awesome. Satire goes great with my morning coffee.

Heal Everyone And Lash Enemy Rears.

:o

Intended Healer DPS confirmed!

We were missing a troll thread from you. Too many serious in a row.

Yawn.








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Originally Posted by Skyrior

B) The game explicitly encourages you to stand in AoEs by example:

http://i.imgur.com/ukHlEYH.png

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My favorite bit.

Also this one was actually pretty funny, Skyrior. Bravo. o//

oh skyrior

The sad thing is, this is basically a copy of an actual post that seemed to be seriously written (and similar arguments from the same poster) - and the original one even received likes. >.>

Thanks Skyrior, you made me lol on this.

Aww yiss, Skyrior is back and better than ever

I dunnu, I actually find this guy fun? :P When the forums are full of people actually believing the bs they spout is God's spiel, a guy honestly bs-ing (as in not seriously ) is like a breath of fresh air!

Meh, I queue as a healer, that's what I'll be doing. Why is this the only game that has this shitty mind set?

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Originally Posted by Taika

The sad thing is, this is basically a copy of an actual post that seemed to be seriously written (and similar arguments from the same poster) - and the original one even received likes. >.>

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I have tried to read that post through three TIMES and I have no idea what the point of it is or what I am supposed to conclude from it

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Originally Posted by Gazille

Meh, I queue as a healer, that's what I'll be doing. Why is this the only game that has this shitty mind set?

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I assume you're not being serious, but in case anyone might think along these lines and aren't yet experienced with this game, it's because not all games are the same and it's not about "mind sets" but about how the jobs and fights are designed. :) In short, when you play this game, you should play this game.

This is the probably the best thread Skyrior ever made lol

Well played man, well played:D

That picture made me remember the revolutionary AI improvements present in the last HW MSQ duty, where the AI actually avoids a heavily telegraphed AoE.

I wonder if they'll keep doing that in the Stormblood MSQ.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

That picture made me remember the revolutionary AI improvements present in the last HW MSQ duty, where the AI actually avoids a heavily telegraphed AoE.

I wonder if they'll keep doing that in the Stormblood MSQ.

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I hope so. That is something that has always annoyed me... especially in duties where if a certain PC dies then the duty fails. STOP STANDING IN GARBAGE AND YOU WON'T DIE! grr. lol.

man a vaguely entertaining Skyrior post. impressive.

Oh god, after that one post he made here

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Originally Posted by Skyrior

There's so many things wrong here that I don't know where to begin... Please just cease writing because you clearly do not know how to play WHM properly.



Did you just contradict yourself?



Clearly shows you've never done a big pull properly because out of the three healers WHM handles this the best with instant and short CD asylum, in-cleric Benediction, potent Divine Seal regen, and Holy stunning. Ironically ASTs are the ones with the most problem with big pulls because Gravity doesn't stun and Time Dilation and Collective Unconscious (for the potent regen) are on a longer cooldown.



You do realize you should use Assize and Asylum on CD...? (Not so for raids if you need to save them for specific mechanics) And since when is using Regen a "jerk" behavior on trash pulls?



Have you ever been in one such party before...????



Try doing that in A12S... Hell just try it in A9S with an average party and see if you can clear if your cohealer will not put in extra work to cover your shortfall.



Even in Baelsar's Wall, which is NOT AT ALL savage content you should be using regens on the DPS for the prey markers or divine seal Medica II. You do not use Cure/Cure II.

The rest of your post is rubbish.

If raid content is designed around requiring healer DPS (as in early Gordias prog), and even for non-savage content you can NOT clear if you only cast Cure I and Cure II then clearly it is not intended for WHMs to spam Cure I and Cure II.

If you want to comment further at least finish the HW storyline.

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I thought I give this thread a read (I just passed over it cuz Skyrior thread.) After reading this post though I learned he knew healers well so I thought I see what this thread was about. Very good laugh for anyone that is annoyed with that one person ;p

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Originally Posted by Taika

The sad thing is, this is basically a copy of an actual post that seemed to be seriously written (and similar arguments from the same poster) - and the original one even received likes. >.>

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lul so that is what it was from, funny, this was a good one ;p

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Originally Posted by Spiroglyph

I have tried to read that post through three TIMES and I have no idea what the point of it is or what I am supposed to conclude from it

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Really? it is even quoted in that post:

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

The rest of your response... is little more than a rant. You continue to presume healers must constantly heal yet oddly contradict yourself by acknowledging most 8-man content doesn't need two healers.
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You can bury your head in the sand all you fancy but if the tank and DPS have 300+ abilities cast and you only have 50. Well, who's carrying whom?

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I never thought I would see the day I'd like a Skyrior thread.

You forgot to add healers who dps are lazy because they dont have time to run their laps and do their jumping jacks to maintain their physique.

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Originally Posted by Rasylia

Am i wrong or is this post an exact copy of the one inside the "We are all DD's now"-topic?

Anyways, its not really helpfull to reopen a new topic when the old one just died down, nor to reuse the same arguements 10 times over.

Also, a whole lot of what you write is full of speculation and just your interpretation.

(and yes, i replied as if his post was meant to be serious. I know its not, but hey, let's try)

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You are wrong, totally wrong.

Healers should ONLY dps when solo. So the solution is simple. Let your party wipe, so that you can ham on DPS.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

That picture made me remember the revolutionary AI improvements present in the last HW MSQ duty, where the AI actually avoids a heavily telegraphed AoE.

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They dodge better than some of the players I've seen.