A question for DPS mains and what not

So, I have a question or two for those of ya'll that main DPS

How do you guys do it? I've always been interested in playing BLM and MCH, but the queue times for tanks/healers have kind of spoiled me. I've also always felt that I'd claw my way to the cap, and then just end up using one of my tanks/healer jobs for endgame anyway because of supply and demand. I'd ideally like to be able to fill whatever role my FC/static would need of me. Perhaps I'm biased but I often think it'll just be anything but a DPS, but I could just be being silly :rolleyes:

Do you guys ever feel like you're judged/kicked more harshly and readily from end game dungeons?

I guess the biggest bit is, I enjoy party play and dungeons, but have no real static group to play with so it's just easier to tank/heal.

How has your experience been, as a DPS? How do you plan to go about SB with two new DPS coming out as well?

I know this question is probably silly :P Just wanted to ask though

Honestly my Queue times as a Ninja main don't ever really feel that much longer (if at all) than my Scholar's. Dungeons require a lot of DPS and they fill up pretty quickly. I don't ever feel like I'm judged harshly or kicked at all. ...Then again I think my dps isn't half bad. So as long as I keep hitting stuff I'm good.

I feel healer and tanks get judged more harshly because if they fuck up, usually it means a wipe. You know?

Dps is far more lax than I think you're suggesting.

Edit: And with stormblood coming with even more DPS, I think their timers might hurt a little bit. But it'll be for the best. I think we'll still have the same ratio of healers vs tanks vs dps in the end result

Its never really bothered me,

I've generally been at 12-14 minute queue times... sometimes only 5 minutes at high levels expert and 60th level dungeons. I never get complaints on my DPS as a SMN, and I tend to get a lot of Coms. Whenever I play either BLM or SMN I get a lot of them.

I have come to learn a lot of it from SMN is because the AoEs in this game are much like Crowd Control in other games. And a little DPS CC like that seriously speeds up the run, if you're really good at it, people notice. There's a lot of really good Single Target Damage DPS classes... but not as many that can AoE DPS which equates to crowd control in this game. Hence that small portion fills neatly in a gap and creates the need. (Much like the Control Mage of Dungeons and Dragons, where crowd control is defined as a Fireball or just outright destroying weaker mobs leaving only the strong standing)

People appreciate a good AoE damager and its readily apparent when you have a good one. Crowd Control, is really about controlling the battlefield, whether thats an AoE sleep... or just an AoE Magic blast wiping out the weaker ones...

DPS queues is a good excuse to read something irl.

I have my 263 blm main, a 257 war and a 257 Ast. Typically I find queuing as blm depending on time of day between 5-10mins... But also depends on what dungeon/raid I'm running. If I need to run something due to a quest which isn't job specific, I'll pick blm. If q is longer then 10 mins I'll switch to Ast or war. But overall in q as a dps isn't as bad as it used to be.

DPS ques require some patience. But like others have said, it's not really as bad as some people make it seem. I have a friend who can't stand any que that goes on for more than 5 minutes. If you're impatient, you probably won't have a good time. I've never been kicked from an instance as a dps. But that's also because I'm rarely the player holding the group back. You're more likely to get kicked as a tank or healer. As long as you know your skills and what you're capable of, you won't have problems. The strength of dps ques comes from 24 man raids. Those ques are pretty quick most of the time, whereas I've spent upwards to 30+ minutes in que as a tank for Dun Scaith. There's a weird dichotomy between dungeon ques and 24 man ques that people rarely seem to acknowledge.

So much other things to do in this game while queueing that waiting time isn't an issue. Some examples are gathering, crafting, FATE-ing, Gold Saucer, the list goes on.

Honestly, the DPS queues have never ~felt~ terribly long. I always manage to find something to do while queued, whether in-game or on the side IRL while I'm waiting. It's made a world of difference enjoying the time I spend queued.

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Originally Posted by Arkenne

DPS queues is a good excuse to read something irl.

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Or, write.

40 pages of a novel are already done.

DPS queues give me time to tab out and watch videos, or do small tasks in-game.

Huh, I see. Guess it's just a matter of picking a DPS to try then!

Any opinions on Blm/Mch/Brd?

I'm interested in BLM, but I was looking through that thread with their DPS info and uh

I didn't know BLM had quite so many variables for optimal DPS ,3,;

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Originally Posted by Justsomeguy

Huh, I see. Guess it's just a matter of picking a DPS to try then!

Any opinions on Blm/Mch/Brd?

I'm interested in BLM, but I was looking through that thread with their DPS info and uh

I didn't know BLM had quite so many variables for optimal DPS ,3,;

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Then don't go optimal from the get-go, give it a try. If you find yourself liking it, may as well then go optimal.
MCH and BRD are getting some mayor changes in about 3 weeks. BLM also, but doesn't seem like it'll be a total overhaul.

I always do hunts and dailies during the waiting times when on DPS.
As a tank I get insta invites which is sweet, but for raids it is upward of 30 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Arkenne

Then don't go optimal from the get-go, give it a try. If you find yourself liking it, may as well then go optimal.
MCH and BRD are getting some mayor changes in about 3 weeks. BLM also, but doesn't seem like it'll be a total overhaul.

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I support this, just try them and see which one you prefer.
You might also want to take a look at the new skill video and see if Something appeal you more.
Bard doesn't seem to change too much, new mechanic with songs having ressource but we've no clue what these actually do.
Mach have a new heat gaug that you have to, according to what we understand, keep around 50%. (basically, do not overheat your weapon nor use it when it's cold)
BLM mostly received QoL change, FireIV will cost less mana due to a new mechanic, Enochian won't be as painful to keep up. Mostly the same thing but easier to handle.

Depends. In my FC we have a ridiculous amount of tanks (over half if them main it), so often we're hurting for DPS/healers lol. A lot of them have started leveling an Alt DPS job. XD But yeah, duty finder kinda sucks. It can be anywhere from a 10 minute wait, to 45 minutes lol. As one of our tanks put it (after leveling his DPS alt for a week or two): "Dude, you guys get a shite deal. Wait 20 minutes for a dungeon, then get in and end up tanking half the damn thing yourself anyway."

We are judged less harshly in normal everyday-content (not saying it's right, but it's a fact). You'll get the odd person that puts their foot down and kicks a crap dps, but most just ignore it so long as their not doing something that will wipe the group. In end game raids/primals, it's very different lol. There's so much reliance on DPS checks and pushing past phases, you will be kicked, or severely ridiculed if you can't meet them. Also most likely to have spiteful healer let you die if you make a mistake. X3

With Stormblood I'll probably end up switching to heals for my FC. Lots of them switching to RDM and SAM, which is great because too-many-tanks, but not great because still-missing-heals lmao.

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With Stormblood I'll probably end up switching to heals for my FC. Lots of them switching to RDM and SAM, which is great because too-many-tanks, but not great because still-missing-heals lmao.

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It seems like RDM will have a heal and res skills of their own :v

If you really don't wanna deal with queues because DPS and your aim is solely lvling them, you may as well go for PotD.

Well, for now it's just for leveling to try them and what not, but...

I don't know if it's time to rack healing/tanking/support stuff for a bit since that has been most of my MMO career since I knew it was a thing. I'm just prone to massively overthinking things, hence this thread in the first place :p

Either way, can't hurt to try anything, really!

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Originally Posted by Justsomeguy

Do you guys ever feel like you're judged/kicked more harshly and readily from end game dungeons?

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it may happen every now and then if you are performing very poorly but most people are content with mediocre performances. if it is happening frequently you may want to read up on how to play your class or just simply make better decisions during the fight.

a lot of dps do things while waiting. For example, I sometimes exercise, read, or even write. There are also lots of things to do in game as well, but I personally get annoyed like when i'm in the middle of a quest and the que in notice pops up.