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12-12-2011, 05:15 PM
OMEGA_HACK

Moogle Battle Video

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Wow, the editing alone is pretty nifty, and I like the music. This fight looks like it will be fun! (although I can see MAR burns already...)
12-12-2011, 05:16 PM
Rentahamster

We already have a thread for that here:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post476186
12-12-2011, 05:29 PM
Sputnik

looks like one of them is casting a song at 0:54 and atleast 1 of every job, 2 glads lol
12-12-2011, 05:32 PM
Answa

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Originally Posted by Sputnik

looks like one of them is casting a song at 0:54

You mean all the moogles?
12-12-2011, 05:33 PM
OMEGA_HACK

They summon the King! (And the song sounds like a remix from VI!) Mog's Theme Which is plain ole'awesome-sauce!
12-12-2011, 05:37 PM
Ruri

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

They summon the King! (And the song sounds like a remix from VI!) Mog's Theme Which is plain ole'awesome-sauce!

Yea I love the music :)
12-12-2011, 05:37 PM
Munba

Sweet. The music (mog theme remix) is awesome!
12-12-2011, 05:56 PM
Theplatter

Can't wait for this fight. I'm going to have to listen to the original mog theme music from VI again, but the music from this video keeps making me think of the Nightmare Before Christmas theme :)
12-12-2011, 05:58 PM
b0ats

wowowow looks so fun! and of course the music is awesome :)
12-12-2011, 06:05 PM
Shneibel

hope it wont be 1 tank 5 LNC and 2 healer setup at 1.20 or it ll be freaking sad
12-12-2011, 06:07 PM
Richard_BG

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shneibel

hope it wont be 1 tank 5 LNC and 2 healer setup at 1.20 or it ll be freaking sad

its gonna be MRD MRD MRD MRD THM CNJ CNJ. Calling it now.

also this:

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so instead of Hellfire at the end of the fight we now have Mooglefire in the middle of the fight. sad sad sad reuse of fight mechanics to scrape by.
12-12-2011, 06:10 PM
zaviermhigo

That little moogle Gladiator is the cutest thing I've ever seen....EVER!
12-12-2011, 06:15 PM
Dreadnought

i could.not.care.less. about the music or the level of "cute" this fight brings- those two things are 100% irrelevant to me.

the only thing i care about are the fight mechanics and its fun factor (which to me has nothing to do with cute or music)

im wondering how the lack of crowd control will work out. i also wonder how susceptible (if at all) the moogles are to magic attacks, or are mages only going to be used for healing with the occasional Prot/SS .
12-12-2011, 06:18 PM
Answa

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Originally Posted by Dreadnought

i could.not.care.less. about the music or the level of "cute" this fight brings- those two things are 100% irrelevant to me.

the only thing i care about are the fight mechanics and its fun factor (which to me has nothing to do with cute or music)

im wondering how the lack of crowd control will work out. i also wonder how susceptible (if at all) the moogles are to magic attacks, or are mages only going to be used for healing with the occasional Prot/SS .

Crowd control in a major boss fight? Someone didn't play FFXI.
12-12-2011, 06:18 PM
Ilethius

Looks fun, hopefully will add some longevity, but i doubt it.

I also think it will be mrd x 6, conj/thm x 2 :(
12-12-2011, 06:25 PM
Isaveron

Quote:

Originally Posted by Answa

Crowd control in a major boss fight? Someone didn't play FFXI.

This isn't FFXI.
12-12-2011, 06:26 PM
OMEGA_HACK

It will only be x6 MRD if the moogles are easily killed. If they must be slept, bound or by any other means paralyzed AoE damage might not be primary factor in killing them.

Which is why I think Shadowbind might get some really good use in this fight. Move them to the edge > Shadowbind > move to other edge of arena to avoid damage from the bound ones.

Also seems like the mini-moogles work in conjunction with Moggle XII, so they might actually be something like the nails from ifrit to weaken Moggle himself and make him killable? And to mix it up from the Ifrit fight it would be interesting to have them do the "big move" each time a Moogle is killed (but gets weaker as more and more moogles die). That would counter act an AoE spam method, because you'd be dead if it spammed the big move right back lol.

This is all speculation for the most part obviously, take it as a grain of salt if you like.
12-12-2011, 06:26 PM
yukikaze_yanagi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilethius

Looks fun, hopefully will add some longevity, but i doubt it.

I also think it will be mrd x 6, conj/thm x 2 :(

some people should re-read the new actions i think...mrd don't have anymore storm's path spam, and thm lost sacrifice, meaning it can only heal with cnj's cure (and the gimp of the case)
12-12-2011, 06:30 PM
Pulseczar

The music is great—but the battle looks very boring. Hopefully it will be different when actually playing it.
12-12-2011, 06:31 PM
Richard_BG

Quote:

Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi

some people should re-read the new actions i think...mrd don't have anymore storm's path spam, and thm lost sacrifice, meaning it can only heal with cnj's cure (and the gimp of the case)

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∟MRD WS 7 - AoE attack.
Combo: MRD WS 6, Bonus: Consumes all TP to increase damage when your HP is below 50%.

That being said HOPEFULLY SE has learned its lesson early on and balanced most of the classes semi-close to eachother and AoE spam wont be the best way to handle adds. But I wouldn't hold your breath.
12-12-2011, 06:31 PM
NamudNevets

Quote:

Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi

some people should re-read the new actions i think...mrd don't have anymore storm's path spam, and thm lost sacrifice, meaning it can only heal with cnj's cure (and the gimp of the case)

Yeah i love MRD now but im sure it is changing big time
12-12-2011, 06:32 PM
OMEGA_HACK

It might act the same but the strength might be way off (just like how the "new" sentinel doesn't block 60% of that magic anymore; based on the video)
12-12-2011, 06:37 PM
Answa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isaveron

This isn't FFXI.

No shit. Now find me an NM you can sleep in FFXIV.
12-12-2011, 06:43 PM
Dreadnought

Quote:

Originally Posted by Answa

No shit. Now find me an NM you can sleep in FFXIV.

i did play FFXI for four years.
this isnt FFXI.
i havent played a battle in FFXIV that consisted of several mini bosses with 1 main boss.
since i have played other MMOs i am under the impression that crowd control should be a factor.
why would sleep be your only means for CC? what about gravity, slow, magic stuns, bind... pretty much everything else? why cant future mini bosses/bosses have a small susceptability to some CC in FFXIV?
CC is a very enjoyable mechanic to me and if the bosses are of a certain difficulty then it CC wouldnt cheapen a fight, only add to the amount of strategies.
12-12-2011, 06:52 PM
Greil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard_BG

That being said HOPEFULLY SE has learned its lesson early on and balanced most of the classes semi-close to eachother and AoE spam wont be the best way to handle adds. But I wouldn't hold your breath.

GLA Abl. 6 Increases target's enmity. Traits may trigger an AoE and a chance to inflict Blind.
∟GLA WS 8 Self AoE Increases enmity of all enemies within range. Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack.
∟PGL WS 4 Self AoE AoE attack.
Combo: PGL WS 1, Bonus: Chance to inflict Slow.
∟LNC WS 2 Self AoE AoE attack.
Combo: LNC WS 1, Bonus: Chance to inflict Stun.
∟ARC WS 3 Target AoE Deals damage to all enemies within range of the target. Low accuracy.
Combo: ARC WS 2, Bonus: Increased accuracy.
∟ARC WS 4 Frontal AoE Delivers a close-range, cone-shaped attack in the target's direction.
Combo: ARC WS 1, Bonus: Fivefold attack on target.

Why take 6 mrd when other classes can do the same ?
12-12-2011, 06:56 PM
Richard_BG

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greil

GLA Abl. 6 Increases target's enmity. Traits may trigger an AoE and a chance to inflict Blind.
∟GLA WS 8 Self AoE Increases enmity of all enemies within range. Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack.
∟PGL WS 4 Self AoE AoE attack.
Combo: PGL WS 1, Bonus: Chance to inflict Slow.
∟LNC WS 2 Self AoE AoE attack.
Combo: LNC WS 1, Bonus: Chance to inflict Stun.
∟ARC WS 3 Target AoE Deals damage to all enemies within range of the target. Low accuracy.
Combo: ARC WS 2, Bonus: Increased accuracy.
∟ARC WS 4 Frontal AoE Delivers a close-range, cone-shaped attack in the target's direction.
Combo: ARC WS 1, Bonus: Fivefold attack on target.

Why take 6 mrd when other classes can do the same ?

AoE =/= Same. Circle Slash/Wide Volley =/= Storm's Path. Until we know how they are balancing the class abilities you might as well go off of 1.19 bests.
12-12-2011, 06:57 PM
Dreadnought

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greil

GLA Abl. 6 Increases target's enmity. Traits may trigger an AoE and a chance to inflict Blind.
∟GLA WS 8 Self AoE Increases enmity of all enemies within range. Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack.
∟PGL WS 4 Self AoE AoE attack.
Combo: PGL WS 1, Bonus: Chance to inflict Slow.
∟LNC WS 2 Self AoE AoE attack.
Combo: LNC WS 1, Bonus: Chance to inflict Stun.
∟ARC WS 3 Target AoE Deals damage to all enemies within range of the target. Low accuracy.
Combo: ARC WS 2, Bonus: Increased accuracy.
∟ARC WS 4 Frontal AoE Delivers a close-range, cone-shaped attack in the target's direction.
Combo: ARC WS 1, Bonus: Fivefold attack on target.

Why take 6 mrd when other classes can do the same ?

i can answer that.
extra defense which those other classes dont have + lots of DD. why take anything else?
12-12-2011, 07:00 PM
viion
Some things incase you did not notice
1. Music is a recomposition of "Nightmare Before Christmas", which fits perfectly, if you think about it ingame and real life, amazing song.
2. THM has [SIZE="7"]3715[/SIZE] MP
3. ARC has 2326 MP
4. ARC doesnt have a choco? lol
5. The new ? icon, dont know what it is,
6. The broken icon wont be in game its in all vids
7. There are v2 icons above it
8. No more Shell magic (or they not using it? doubtful)
9. GLA has almost [SIZE="6"]5k[/SIZE] hp
10. New "Sword+" Icon as an effect on some people, be new skill?
11. New skills, (Arch row 3, skill 5, 0:34 time)
12. Almost everyone is using Food
I wasn't very pumped for this, but now I am, looks very cool. But I do feel it will turn into a MRD smash. We will have to see now that attribute selection is back.
12-12-2011, 07:16 PM
lordvr

The moogle theme song predates Nightmare Before Christmas.
I personally can't hear the resemblance at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVs_e...908C6370F2D270
12-12-2011, 07:20 PM
Dreadnought

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordvr

The moogle theme song predates Nightmare Before Christmas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVs_e...908C6370F2D270

idk, i dont hear the similarities. either way, (no offense) how is the music important at all?
12-12-2011, 07:46 PM
yukikaze_yanagi

The music isn't important for the fight per se, but for the entire experience it's quite important. It's what make a great game a masterpiece
12-12-2011, 07:46 PM
Shneibel

either way, if there is a video at middle of battle mean we ll have to skip it again because the mobs already have player on target or attacking player while they watch the video ?
12-12-2011, 07:47 PM
Murugan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shneibel

either way, if there is a video at middle of battle mean we ll have to skip it again because the mobs already have player on target or attacking player while they watch the video ?

What are you talking about? The only way that happens is if someone in your party skips the cut scene and engages.
12-12-2011, 07:49 PM
Shneibel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murugan

What are you talking about? The only way that happens is if someone in your party skips the cut scene and engages.

that s not what happen at the last main history quest for me when I solo, got shot dead after watch the movie
12-12-2011, 07:51 PM
Chardrizard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shneibel

that s not what happen at the last main history quest for me when I solo, got shot dead after watch the movie

Did you really just pick out that one thing that isnt even an edngame content (that was also developed by team before Yoshi) and ignores Dzemael or Ifrit fight?
12-12-2011, 07:55 PM
Shneibel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chardrizard

Did you really just pick out that one thing that isnt even an edngame content (that was also developed by team before Yoshi) and ignores Dzemael or Ifrit fight?

being force to skip Dzemael too, and ifrit fight is at the begin of battle which is the same as the lvl 25 and ifrit doesnt have any video in the middle of battle
12-12-2011, 08:23 PM
Claire_Pendragon

Im more curious as to why the Lalafell had Exc next to his name for class.
12-12-2011, 08:27 PM
NamudNevets

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon

Im more curious as to why the Lalafell had Exc next to his name for class.

EXC = MRD I wondered the first time i saw it but someone explained it. :)
12-12-2011, 11:37 PM
Irana

I keep thinking Nightmare before xmas when I see the choco fight xD
12-13-2011, 12:09 AM
Jennestia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

idk, i dont hear the similarities. either way, (no offense) how is the music important at all?

Are you able to sit there and say you'd have zero complaints if there were no music at all in this fight, let alone game? Not even custom music playing?

Music is just as important to a game (let alone boss fight) as anything.

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