Thank you for (job changes): Thank them!

No physical mages (mch/bard)
THANK YOU!

Really, they really do listen :D

I don't think any real MCHs had an issue with the cast time. It was the bads who complained and got heard.

I was a bit worried about all theses changes then now i have a tremendous hype !

Thanks for all the efforts you have done to do SB this way , it was really necessary !

Great job !

Ps: I'm main Warrior and now i can go on a rampage with my fell cleaves thanks for that too :)

As I said in the other thread:

No more bow/gun mage. To the trash (where it belongs!) with that concept and may it never come back, EVER.

I just want the ability to turn off the "Rescue" spell somewhere in the options. That's all. I'm fine with pretty much everything else they did.

I don't know how I feel about GB cast times going away. ;_;

Hyped for the rest of it, but still it was really only bards doing most of the boohooing.

I love how each class has their unique resource now, good job SE!

I don't even really play BRD or MCH but I'm pretty glad that mobility is back. In my opinion, that was the selling point! Also, Warrior charge + rage bar. Lok'tar ogar?

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Originally Posted by Alerion

I don't even really play BRD or MCH but I'm pretty glad that mobility is back. In my opinion, that was the selling point! Also, Warrior charge + rage bar. Lok'tar ogar?

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GB was built into MCH. It's kinda the equivalent of adding WM to BRD really....but we also get to sing songs now, so......RIP.

looking forward to teh pld changes , i think they didnt sayed what the wings skill was at the end , curious im :P

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Originally Posted by Pence

GB was built into MCH.

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This is true, while I am firmly against cast times for either. I will readily admit that it was MUCH better designed for mch than brd.

Lol, magic block and an ability that lets you 100% block rate.. nice :P

Concerned that boss placement on cleaving attacks and stuff while tanking might be weird to have it "behind" you (when normally you face the boss away from everyone else on the opposite side), but I guess we'll just have to adapt.

Wonder if Paladin didn't get a self sustain for their TP, and if that's because all melee DD have Goad now.

As someone who started playing bard in HW it didn't feel like a real job until I got WM and EA, so these changes sound like a step backwards (literally, considering that's how it used to be).

Glad everyone else is happy with the bard changes though, since it seems to be popular preference. If the emphasis is more on songs than doing damage or if it's somehow not as spammy as the L50 content is now I'll probably stick with it anyway.

Never ever used Wanderer Minuett or the Mch to begin with o.O

Its hella annoying + no auto atk + cant atk while dodging <.<
I do more dmg without it.
I dont choose to play mch/brd if it has Mage mode button lol

Getting very much over 'Casuals are too bad, so we made it easier' as a reason for every change....it's too much Lick King for my liking, atm.

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Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove

Never ever used Wanderer Minuett or the Mch to begin with o.O

Its hella annoying + no auto atk + cant atk while dodging <.<
I do more dmg without it.
I dont choose to play mch/brd if it has Mage mode button lol

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You should read some guides.....none of that is a real issue for MCH...

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Originally Posted by Pence

Getting very much over 'Casuals are too bad, so we made it easier' as a reason for every change....it's too much Lick King for my liking, atm.

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Oddly enough, Wrath of the Lich King was one of WoW's most successful xpacs...

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Oddly enough, Wrath of the Lich King was one of WoW's most successful xpacs...

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It was "the" most successful actually. Every expansion after bled like 2 mill players.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...5815773287.png

I didn't catch all of the live letter but I loved that everyone was getting easy to follow indicators. It will make playing so much easier!

I suspect the overall theme for the jobs is going to be "Easy to play. Hard to Master."

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Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove

Never ever used Wanderer Minuett or the Mch to begin with o.O

Its hella annoying + no auto atk + cant atk while dodging <.<
I do more dmg without it.
I dont choose to play mch/brd if it has Mage mode button lol

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Real talk, you've been playing both really wrong and you weren't doing more damage without them. Sorry.

But now you don't have to worry lol.

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Originally Posted by Khemorex

looking forward to teh pld changes , i think they didnt sayed what the wings skill was at the end , curious im :P

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It protects the group behind you.

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Originally Posted by akaneakki

It protects the group behind you.

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And 100% block rate, and the shield now blocks magic damage too (in general blocks magic, not just on that skill). (I think they said 15% damage reduction to everyone behind you).

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Originally Posted by Shougun

And 100% block rate, and the shield now blocks magic damage too (in general blocks magic, not just on that skill). (I think they said 15% damage reduction to everyone behind you).

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That's cool and the skill looks very PLD ish too! :D

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Never ever used Wanderer Minuett or the Mch to begin with o.O

Its hella annoying + no auto atk + cant atk while dodging <.<
I do more dmg without it.
I dont choose to play mch/brd if it has Mage mode button lol

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What? Omg xD

OH YES THANK YOU SO MUCH T_____T
I ****ING HATE WANDERER'S MINUET
/Caps

can anyone link me or list the changes?

Now I'll be able to move more on mch! Oh wait I never moved anyway except to move out of aoes :/

Sort of concerned that the buffs to pld (and a lesser extent whm) seem to be focussed on the wrong things - pld more defense, whm more healing, when the problem was they offered nothing BESIDES that to raids to begin with.

Mch looks like it's gonna be fun, but no GB + only three ammo + where me turret has me worried!

So far LIVE Letter is a 9/10 for me great stuff

For once you guys deserve my thanks for doing some things right. Keep it up. I hope you make more good decisions in the future.

This seems amazing, thank you devs and Yoshi! OMG The hype for SB is real now!! :D

Okay now the hype is real.

quick question can you meld str on to crafted tank accesories now still or has that all been changed. switching tanks back to STR for damage just means you must wear penta melded crafted accesories like before

p.s. this wasn't a good thing in the first place.

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quick question can you meld str on to crafted tank accesories now still or has that all been changed. switching tanks back to STR for damage just means you must wear penta melded crafted accesories like before

p.s. this wasn't a good thing in the first place.

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You can't overmeld main stats.

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Originally Posted by dalta

can anyone link me or list the changes?

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there's no list yet.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

there's no list yet.

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i ment link for the live letter or write a list :P

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

You can't overmeld main stats.

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thank god i hate that tanks had to pay through the nose for the obsession with damage, plus so glad they locked healer dps and tank accessories to jobs so that you can't blm with healer accessories to reach ilvl :o)

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Originally Posted by Khemorex

looking forward to teh pld changes , i think they didnt sayed what the wings skill was at the end , curious im :P

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Kosmos will get her wings!?!?!?

Fantastic!

Found a good quality video captured from a PC running PS2 emulation...
KOS-MOS get's her wings and saves the Elsa in Xenosaga Episode 1. Not quite what PLD is getting, but close enough for Kosmos. Jump to 36:40 if you just want to see her get the wings...

KOS-MOS gets her wings and saves the Elsa.

But with the Creed Armor (PLD AF in HW) and this new ability, it surely feels like I am beginning to fulfill the role of a protector like KOS-MOS.

PS. Kosmos also wants the hair from 38:07-ish

Damn, now I know what I'll be doing in the pre-expansion maintenance, gotta get PCSX2 running on my i7 laptop first though...

I am WAR as main and it looks fucking BEAST!!!!!!! And pld who have does wings it looks fucking awsome. They needed that.

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I am WAR as main and it looks fucking BEAST!!!!!!! And pld who have does wings it looks fucking awsome. They needed that.

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:) Thanks. i'm working on Warrior, but I've always played with sword and board....so...PLD. I'm happy that they didn't hurt WAR, and that they have worked to give PLD something truly distinct of it's own that plays into our use of shields.

What I'm curious about with MCH....It looks like ammo has been reduced from 5 to 3 and when they used Riccochet it consumed an ammo. Could this mean that proccing weaponskills are going away and the ammo is being repurposed to unlease oGCD abilities?

The Bahamut summoning, holy shit!