Red Mage Abilities

So just curious here if the red mage is a combo of black and white magic does that mean the red mage will be able to heal granted I know that they red mage is a dps class but if he has white magic in him will he be able to heal? I'm not talking massively like with the white mages and bennediction and such just small little heals to help out as needed or something

Nobody knows yet.

Damn I was really hoping that we would know something by now haha mainly cause a friend of mine mains healers basically only reason he plays the game at all and when he saw that there were no new healers he was kinda pissed haha so I'm trying to get him on board lol

We will have a better idea of what RDM (well, all the jobs) can do Monday morning.

Going by the two videos we have of their gameplay so far, here's my take on what SE means when they say red magic is a white and black magic hybrid. I suspect it just means that instead of being limited to the division of elements used like White Mages (only earth, air, water) and Black Mages (only fire, ice, lightning) are, Red Mages will have access to all element types. There's a bit of speculation here, but we do have enough visual evidence to at least partially support this theory:

In the lead up to the melee attack in both trailers they appear to be using some basic elemental casts. In the red mage preview, it looks like a lightning and then either a water or ice spell. In the benchmark they use a lightning and an air spell. A case could also be made that the tether ability that pulls them to their target is an earth spell since it fits the look of what an earth spell might be, but that's less clear. Regardless of the tether and ice/water uncertainty, however, at the very least they're using both a lightning and an air spell, which are normally on opposite sides of the BLM/WHM spectrum.

Here's the videos for reference starting at the rdm combat sequences:
Red mage preview: https://youtu.be/SKuIOtF41dI?t=26s
Stormblood benchmark: https://youtu.be/3_JxY2pRHn4?t=1m54s

This says nothing about healing abilities of course, but I doubt they'll have any. At least not anything that's more powerful than a cross-role Cure already is. If RDM gets any native healing related abilities I suspect it would be along the lines of minor damage mitigation (e.g. a small party-wide phalanx effect on long cooldown), healing potency increase (e.g. a mantra-like effect), or minor resource management (e.g. something more like mp-goad rather than mage's ballad.) Unlike with the elemental speculation above, however, there's no evidence at all for any type of support ability so far, so support ability talk is much more speculative and may very well not even be related to the phrase 'hybrid'.

whats happening monday lol sorry a bit out of the loop

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whats happening monday lol sorry a bit out of the loop

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Try clicking on the link in Rongway's post. :P

I'd like to point out that RDM having cures available shouldn't be considered out of the realm of possibility. SMN has a few basic tricks. Their healing is nothing to write home about, but having an extra rez can potentially save runs. What if RDM is allowed similar tools?

I could see RDM getting a say 300 or 400 potency heal scaling off INT.

Useful for self healing and in some limited circumstances, but you're not replacing a healer in any serious content when you only have a weak basic heal ability.

The content of the next Live Letter is described as being about job action changes and battle system adjustments, but I hope they will dedicate a decent amount of time to talk about both Red Mage and Samurai. I hope to see live gameplay footage that will go over the basics of combos and ability usage. The things you should know going into those jobs at level 50 while addressing concerns players might have.

As far as Red Mage utilizing white magic, I sincerely hope that it will amount to more than purely offensive application. There is a decent possibility of white magic being tied to protective abilities, but I would like to see at least one healing spell. I have some hope considering they have given Clemency to Paladin. Red Mage could receive their own healing spell, one that can preferably be used on other party members, which would be appropriate for a job that has nearly always had access to basic healing magic. Just one spell is all it takes to say Red Mage is capable of healing (to a better extent than Cure or Physick on any non-healer job).

From what we know I'd imagine it would have a split of damaging, BLM-inspired abilities and possibly more "utility" abilities tied more to WHM along with its own "signature" abilities. RDM in this game has also been called a "ranged DPS" with the Range being a bit fuzzy. This means likely serving at least some of the roles that BRD/MCH fill potentially.

Possibilities include (all speculation, mind):

RDM (FFXI) Staples
* Refresh - Some way to give other people mana regen is very likely. Would be nice if it also did TP. Implementation: Single target, oGCD, higher effect Songs/Promotions on a single target.
* Phalanx - Defensive buff that reflects damage. Implementation: party buff, could just be "can cast stoneskin" or something.
* En-[Element] - Gives your weapon a specific effect. Implemented: Monk "Fists of X" or Ninja poisons.
* Debuffs - Disabling abilities. Implementation: Could have access to things resembling Virus, Dismantle/Rend Mind, Trick Attack, Heavy/Silence/Bind along with DoTs obviously.
* Chainspell - Rapid-fire spellcasting. Implementation: Rapid Fire from MCH but for RDM spells (feel like this might have been talked about already?)

Other Guesses:
* Spells cost (large amount of?) mana, melee combos/attacks cost TP and replenish that mana thus ensuring you jump in and out.
* Medium-sized Cure spell (to check the RDM "can technically heal" box)
* Flare-clone that acts as a rotation finisher before you go into melee as it drains your MP
* Lots of DoTs to reflect the old "debuffer" style of play?

As I said, all of these are guesses now as we've seen basically nothing of their gameplay except for jumping in and out of melee, and a couple of small spells.

When they first introduced it they said it will use "red magic," and kind of insinuated that it will be a new take on RDM. Basically not relying on the standard white+black model, from what I understood. I'm excited to see what it can do really. But just going off of what they said, I don't think it will have much in the way of healing. Maybe a mediocre cure? A Drain spell?

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Possibilities include (all speculation, mind):

RDM (FFXI) Staples
* Refresh - Some way to give other people mana regen is very likely. Would be nice if it also did TP. Implementation: Single target, oGCD, higher effect Songs/Promotions on a single target.
* Phalanx - Defensive buff that reflects damage. Implementation: party buff, could just be "can cast stoneskin" or something.
* En-[Element] - Gives your weapon a specific effect. Implemented: Monk "Fists of X" or Ninja poisons.
* Debuffs - Disabling abilities. Implementation: Could have access to things resembling Virus, Dismantle/Rend Mind, Trick Attack, Heavy/Silence/Bind along with DoTs obviously.
* Chainspell - Rapid-fire spellcasting. Implementation: Rapid Fire from MCH but for RDM spells (feel like this might have been talked about already?)

Other Guesses:
* Spells cost (large amount of?) mana, melee combos/attacks cost TP and replenish that mana thus ensuring you jump in and out.
* Medium-sized Cure spell (to check the RDM "can technically heal" box)
* Flare-clone that acts as a rotation finisher before you go into melee as it drains your MP
* Lots of DoTs to reflect the old "debuffer" style of play?

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I don't think this RDM will draw too much from XI given that their purpose is very different. I think of those, we will only get refresh (because MP goad sounds great and fits right in). I think double-cast will fit into its finisher somehow given that it is an RDM staple (V, XI, Tactics), and this will be mixed with black/white magic such as flare and holy. I can also see an additional self-heal similar to second wind.

I'd say too don't get your hopes up for the letter. It sounds more like it's about changes to the battle system, not anything about rdm or sam. I would guess we're not going to learn much about rdm and sam until either the expansion goes live and we see the skills or they're patched in early for datamining.

That said I do hope rdm has a heal of some sort. Paladin does have clemency, so it wouldn't be out of balance to give red mage some kind of heal. Just make the mp cost prohibitive or give it a long cool down.

RDM traditionally used White Magic and Black Magic and they will in XIV too;however, not all White Magic is healing magic. So I can see them combing Aero/Fire, Stone/Thunder, etc. But I doubt they will have healing skills, being a DPS. They may have a self-heal spell akin to Second Wind/Life Surge that heals them for a nominal amount while dealing damage, maybe Drain Blade like RDM had in FF Dimensions.


No other DPS has healing other than SMN (Physick) but it's so weak due to low MND that it's hardly worth mentioning.

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No other DPS has healing other than SMN (Physick) but it's so weak due to low MND that it's hardly worth mentioning.

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To be fair though, tanks didn't have a useful heal before HW. I guess you could argue they had bloodbath + berserk + unchained + inner beast but that's a bit of a stretch and nothing like clemency. You could also argue combat res on smn is way more powerful than something like clemency. Not saying I've seen any evidence at all that rdm will be getting a heal, but there's no real good reason they can't.

Tanks having a heal makes sense. PLD has a special heal because they can cure others (and still heal themselves for 50%) but that's just to make it unique. Healing is preservation, so it fits thematically with tanks who are guaranteed to take damage. For everything except Extreme/Savage encounters, DPS should never take damage unless they make a mistake, or raid-wide damage (should never be enough to kill you outright though), therefore DPS having heals is to cover for a mistaken mechanic (hence long cool down, limited cure potency on Second Wind/Blood Bath/Life Surge)

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Tanks having a heal makes sense. PLD has a special heal because they can cure others (and still heal themselves for 50%) but that's just to make it unique. Healing is preservation, so it fits thematically with tanks who are guaranteed to take damage. For everything except Extreme/Savage encounters, DPS should never take damage unless they make a mistake, or raid-wide damage (should never be enough to kill you outright though), therefore DPS having heals is to cover for a mistaken mechanic (hence long cool down, limited cure potency on Second Wind/Blood Bath/Life Surge)

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Being able to heal fits thematically and historically with rdm too. As was said we already have dps who can battle res, something even a pld can't do despite having access to raise. We have various dps who can battle res, buff defense or magic defense, prevent debuffs, transfer enmity, and debuff the damage mobs do. A long cooldown, targeted heal, intended to be rarely seen wouldn't be anything remotely gamebreaking.

Just a guess but I'd wager that RDM will have a heal much like Paladin's Clemency, that will scale via their main stats and probably be prohibitively expensive to cast or have a cooldown. In this way the flavor of white magic is there but RDM cannot fulfill the role of a full time healer.

My guess is that rdm won't have healing spells but will rather have elemental spells that currently fall under the preview of whm, like stone and aero. In the benchmark trailer you can see the rdm using what looks like a version of an aero spell and then a version of a fire spell...

I'm also wondering if we won't see the -ra and -ga spell suffixes return for rdm, the animations from the benchmark trailer don't match any fire or aero spells already in the game so I wouldn't be surprised if Rdm gets Aera and Fira.

http://i.imgur.com/rNz42Zk.png

Based on new information, I believe Red Mage will receive their own version of Raise and possibly Cure as well. There is a spell visible on the bottom hotbar that has a visual similarity to Raise and also has the same MP cost as Raise (at level 70). In addition, the spell right beside it looks similar to Cure/Cure III and has the same MP cost as Cure. Neither of those actions appear on the list of caster role actions.

http://i.imgur.com/OZZPjSA.png

Another interesting note, it seems Red Mage accumulates a resource by casting spells and then that resource is spent by executing melee weaponskills.

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Definitely liking what I'm seeing with rdm.

I don't think RDM will be doing any healing. It looked like the "white mana" spells were some form of Stone and Aero (along with something else).

Did they say anything about the red mage ui bars? Without knowing anything specific, it looks like a white magic and black magic gauge that fill up when you cast either a white magic damage spell or a black magic damage spell respectively. And it appears that only some of them fill it. There also appear to be some abilities that are both white and black abilities since they fill both bars simultaneously like that aoe that looks like it would be right at home on dark knight. And that one self buff that greatly fills both, of course.

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I don't think RDM will be doing any healing. It looked like the "white mana" spells were some form of Stone and Aero (along with something else).

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I think (and hope) they'll do as much heal as BRD and MCH do mana/tp recovery. Only when necessary.
Technically speaking, this is what would suit them best. They're still suppose to be a mix of BLM and WHM, if they can't heal (or not more than a BLM) then there's some serious design flaw. I am not saying that they can main heal or even be remotely considered as a healer. What I mean is that if needed, they can dish out some emergency heal at the expense of personal dps to help some phase transition like BRD and SMN can recover TP/MP at the expense of their own dps. Ideally they won't do it, but if needed they can.
It's a bit like the paladin heal. A paladin is light years away from a healer, but the one heal he can dish here and there can save someone's life.

This would fit the job perfectly.

Translations from Reddit.

ヴァルサンダー (Val Thunder)
Lv.4 - Lightning aspected magic damage with potency of 300
Increase black mana by 11
50% chance of proccing Val Fire status
Cost 600 MP // 4.86s cast time (probably 5s base)

コル・ア・コル (Koru a koru, probably Corps-à-corps from this list of fencing terminology >_>)
Lv.6 - Gap closer to target that deals physical damage with a potency of 130
Range 25y // Cooldown 40s

ヴァルエアロ (Val Aero)
Lv.10 - Wind aspected magic damage with a potency of 300
Increases white mana by 11
50% chance of proccing Val Stone status
Cost 600 MP // 4.86s cast time (5s base)

スキャッター (Scatter?)
Lv.18 - Unaspected magic AoE damage around target with potency of 100
Increases black mana and white mana by 3
25% chance to proc traited Scatter
Traited Scatter: Increases black mana and white mana by 8
Cost 840 MP // 1.94s cast time (2s base) // Radius 5y

ヴァルファイア (Val Fire)
Lv.26 - Fire aspected damage with a potency of 270
Increases black mana by 9
Requires Val Fire proc in order to use
Cost 360 MP // 1.94s cast time (2s base)

ヴァルストーン (Val Stone)
Lv.30 - Earth aspected magic damage with a potency of 270
Increases White Mana by 9
Requires Val Stone proc in order to use
Cost 360 MP // 1.94s cast time (2s base)

デプラスマン (Déplacement)
Lv.40 - Physical damage to target with potency of 130
Additional effect: Jump back 10y
Cooldown 35s

Acceleration
Lv.50 - While active, the next Val Thunder or Val Aero is guaranteed to proc additional effect (like MCH ammo)
Duration 10s // Cooldown 35s

ムーリネ (Moulinet)
Lv.52 - Frontal physical AoE towards target with potency of 60
If Black Mana and White Mana are above 30, changes to Enmoulinet
Cost 200 TP // Radius 6y

コントルシクスト (Contre de Sixte)
Lv.56 - Unaspected magic AoE around target with potency of 300
OGCD // Cooldown 45s

Embolden
Lv.58 - Increases magic damage dealt by 20%
Effect decreases by 4% every 4 seconds
Additional effect: Increases nearby party members' physical damage dealt by 10%
Additional effect decreases by 2% every 2 seconds
Duration 20s // Cooldown 120s

ジョルラ (Jorura) (No Tooltip)
Approx 240 potency
Procs ability to use Impact
Cost 240 MP // Cast time 2s

Impact
Lv.66 - Unaspected magical damage with potency of 270

Other Ability Notes
Casting a spell with a cast time gives the Chainspell buff which removes the cast time for the next spell

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._translations/

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Definitely interesting. I'm guessing we melee to recover mp and cast to recover tp. I think it's going to be fun. One thing that's weird, taken from that same post only about our cross class skills, or more specifically caster cross class:

">> Diversion - Same as quelling strikes // 15s duration // 120s cooldown

>> Lucid Dream - Halves your enmity and refreshes MP with potency of 80 // 21s duration // 120s cooldown "

Erm, sounds to me like diversion is utterly useless. I guess if enmity was a severe problem would could take both, but even if the mp refresh was entirely wasted there seems to be no reason to ever pick diversion over lucid dream.

From the videos,you have the cast, instant, cast, instant thing going on, each building white and black magic
Then you melee to spend the white and black magic (30/30 and 25/25)

I'm highly curious if it does give mana back, or if it's a matter of "you will run out eventually" like summoner

All the Casters have a shared heal looking skill so yes it will

What we see on the caster role skill list is a support ability said to remove DoTs from a target party member party member other than yourself. (More info can be found here.)

Aside from whether or not Red Mage will bring healing utility, I want to take the time to talk about observations I've made from watching the Stormblood - Job Actions video in combination with Letter from the Producer.

To start with, Red Mage has a unique guage that measures accumulated white and black mana (which I'm going to refer to as red mana when not specifically addressing either white or black mana individually). Their values do not reset outside of combat, but I assume you can only accumulate those resources during combat.

We only have one example which shows the red mana being spent which we see during the Job Actions video. Three weaponskills are used back to back which each consume a large portion of the red mana, but that resource is not a requirement for executing those weaponskills since we see the first of which used without consuming the red mana during the Live Letter. Either because a sufficient amount was not accumulated beforehand or consuming red mana is not a default function and that to spend that resource you must first activate an ability which may be demonstrated in the Job Actions video. It's certainly possible that spending that resource will be our means of restoring MP.

Next up is Chainspell which is a trait that activates upon the completion of a spell cast, at which point the Chainspell status effect is acquired. There is the possibility that the Chainspell buff only applies after hard casting a spell meaning you can't Swiftcast a spell and then immediately Chainspell a second instant spell. The Chainspell status lasts for 15 seconds and ensures that the next spell cast during that time will be instant. After which another spell must be cast to acquire the Chainspell status once again. The primary function of Chainspell is to mitigate the long cast time of certain spells.

Edit: More in-depth analysis can be found here.

Apparently, the elemental spells are Ver-elements.

Verthunder
Verfire
Veraero
Verstone

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Going by the two videos we have of their gameplay so far, here's my take on what SE means when they say red magic is a white and black magic hybrid. I suspect it just means that instead of being limited to the division of elements used like White Mages (only earth, air, water) and Black Mages (only fire, ice, lightning) are, Red Mages will have access to all element types. There's a bit of speculation here, but we do have enough visual evidence to at least partially support this theory:

In the lead up to the melee attack in both trailers they appear to be using some basic elemental casts.

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That is pretty much exactly what I see too...

I was watching what appeared to be dual casting Aeros, Bliz, Lightning, Fire, Stone, (one almost looked like Gravity) combos, then once the guage filled he lept in to do a large zoro style melee attack.

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That is pretty much exactly what I see too...

I was watching what appeared to be dual casting Aeros, Bliz, Lightning, Fire, Stone, (one almost looked like Gravity) combos, then once the guage filled he lept in to do a large zoro style melee attack.

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The "dual casting" you saw was RDM's chainspell trait. They explained in the letter that whenever RDM casts a spell that has a cast time, the next spell is automatically insta-cast.

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The "dual casting" you saw was RDM's chainspell trait. They explained in the letter that whenever RDM casts a spell that has a cast time, the next spell is automatically insta-cast.

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Yeah that's actually called Dual Cast in the classic sense of the Traditional Red Mage who had that trait in the previous Final Fantasy games. And its exactly how it worked.

Chainspell was a separate ability that allowed you to cast them in succession instantly.

Dual cast was casting 2 spells at once, and that's more what it looked like.

Okay, I've done a quick bit of analysis on the red mage procs and chainspell system and I think this will be the most efficient way to manage them and build elemental charge for the melee attacks. Note that this isn't a full analysis of everything, just the strategy of how best to manage the four base elemental spells.

The base elemental spells Thunder and Air are very high cast time with a higher, but still spammable mp cost and a 50% chance (without using the 100% proc ability) to proc the second spell in the chain. The proc'd spells Fire and Stone have a very low cast time with a very spammable mp cost. All four do roughly the same damage and elemental charge build, although the proc spells are ever so slightly lower for both. The cast time is the significant difference, making the proc spells much more effective in terms of output per second despite being objectively weaker per cast.

Chainspell literally makes it so that RDM are guaranteed to never have cast time on two spells in a row. Most of the time this means that they alternate between a spell with cast time and an instant spell. The only exception is if you insert a spell that is inherently instant cast after a chainspelled instant cast to get two instants in a row, although they would still be subject to gcd.

So, with those two things taken together, the goal appears to be to minimize the amount of time spent hard casting the base elemental spells Thunder and Air, and maximize the amount of time spent hard casting the proc'd spells Fire and Stone. Even though the latter do slightly less output both in damage and elemental charge building, the faster cast time results in greater effect over time. So an ideal rotation assuming all the proc effects land would be Thunder-->Chainspelled Air-->Fire-->Chainspelled Stone. Assuming a base GCD of ~2.5s, this would have ~7 seconds of cast time over a period of ~12.5s (the extra 2.5 is due to the gcd clipping from the long cast on the Thunder spell). If you were to do Thunder-->Chainspelled Fire-->Air-->Chainspelled Stone that would result in ~10s of casting time over a period of ~15s. As you can see that's quite a difference.

I don't think Swiftcast makes a difference in this, since the chainspell effect is inherently at least equal or better. The best I could come up with is Swiftcast Thunder-->Air-->Chainspelled Fire-->Stone. This results in ~7s of cast time over a period of ~12.5s which is the same as the non-swiftcast rotation. It appears swiftcast will be saved for raising situations, and even then it's likely that a RDM can just use chainspell to get an instant raise off anyway. I suspect RDM will be the first healer/caster to not have swiftcast be a required cross-role ability.

Now, that's all the ideal situation where you proc 100% of time. The general priority holds though: Cast your base elemental spells while under the effects of chainspell as much as possible and cast your elemental procs while not under the effects of chainspell as much as possible. The choice of which element to use comes down to the status of current procs combined with the one in which you have less charge built up in order to make sure they build up at similar rates.

I'm sure someone else will have a more in depth analysis that includes the melee phase and proc management.

As for me... I really suck at MCH, so I'm a little wary about how this will pan out for me. Hopefully I'll be able to wrap my head around the priority rotation that RDM will have better than I am the MCH one.

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I dont think we are going to see a real analysts until we see a full movelist (i'm hoping soon!).

But in the video yoshi uses scatter (2s cast, 100 potency AoE) as his "first" spell then chaincasted the 5 second spells. so scatter -> chain air -> fire -> chain stone would have only had 4 seconds spent actually casting rather than your 7.

i'm suspecting there will be a better "1" spell than a low potency AoE however.

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I dont think we are going to see a real analysts until we see a full movelist (i'm hoping soon!).

so scatter -> chain air -> fire -> chain stone would have only had 4 seconds spent actually casting rather than your 7.

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That's missing Thunder which is necessary for the Fire so add 5s cast time. I did look at scatter as a possible filler, but its low potency, high cost and potential to only self-proc for more elemental charge takes it out of consideration outside of AoE rotations. I do suspect there might be a debuff spell that fills this role. That or that Impact proccing spell without a name.

Anywho, I'm not talking about full rotations or openers here, just the basic concept of how the elemental spells work which I don't think any other abilities will greatly change. I.e. cast Thunder/Air while chainspelled as much as possible and use the Fire/Stone procs when you are not in order to mitigate the high cast times.

We actually do have almost the entire rotation. Also, the AoE TP skill starts spending B/W mana at 30 of each. That also is the time when the gauge lit up, so I imagine that's when the first combo skill starts spending it as well(But the video had the third hit spending mana even from 27 to 2, so I think that this only holds true for the first ability of the combo).

Of course, we don't have all the abilities and things might change, but I think that most people are overthinking it. Note that the spell names probably aren't accurate, and this is just for single target. Still, it really is quite simple: You alternate between these two sets:

#1: 5s cast time, used when you have Chainspell:

Val Thunder(Black), Val Aero(White). Both have 300 potency and restore 11 mana.

Priority: Choose the skill for which you have less Mana. If your White mana is lower, pick Aero. If your Black mana is lower, pick Thunder. If they both are equal it doesn't matter. Simple as that.

#2: 2s cast time, used when you don't have Chainspell:

Val Fire(270 potency, 9 Black), Val Stone(270 potency, 9 White), Jolt(~240 potency, 3B/3W), Impact(270 potency, 4B/4W)

Val Fire and Val Stone have the highest priority because they generate 9 total mana(9 Black / 9 White, respectively), while Jolt generates only 6 total mana(3/3) and Impact 8(4/4). The actual element for Fire and Stone doesn't really have an effect unless you're about to cap, because the 5s spells are the ones you use to balance the mana gauge. Getting 9 mana instead of 8 is far more important. Impact seems to trigger whenever you cast Jolt, so basically, whenever you don't have either Val Fire or Val Stone, you alternate between Impact and Jolt. Impact has priority over Jolt because it deals more damage and restores more mana. You just cast Jolt when it's your only option.

As such, the priority: Val Fire/Val Stone(Whichever is up) > Impact > Jolt


Alternating between these two sets seems to be the entire rotation unless there's some curveball thrown in. If not, you do this until you are at 75+ mana. Then, you go into melee with the gap closer, perform the 3 hit combo, and I believe that the 3 hit combo then activates the Spellblade finishers. Those would be the Flare and Holy type spells, likely dealing massive damage and restoring 21 Black or White mana respectively.



A simplified sample opener:

(precast Acceleration(100% proc) Hardcast Val Thunder(5s+ before pull) -> Chain Val Aero(oGCD Embolden + Contra de Sixte, or something) -> Val Fire

Then, if Val Stone procced, cast Val Thunder -> Val Stone. Then, if Val Fire procced, cast Val Aero -> Val Fire. This sequence goes on until a spell does not proc(Likely far sooner than this). Let's assume that neither of these two Aeros(the previous one and the next one) procs Stone. In that case, the sequence from here goes, for instance:

Val Aero -> Jolt

Now, at this point, we'd have accumulated a total of 40 Black Mana and 42 White Mana. So next we go:

Val Thunder -> Impact/Val Fire(if procced)

and so on.

One thing i didn't really wrap my head around fully until just now is just how fast and mobile RDM casting will be. The bulk of our cast time will be 2s base making our cast times in the 1.8s range when not simply instant casting every other spell. I.e.most of the time we will be super mobile and only being held back in speed of rotation by gcd. I figure only about 1.8s out of every 5s will be spent in a cast bar.

Still micro-hoping for a lower potency int based indom/assize for the whm side of things. Probably not though.