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    Wolfysbane's Avatar
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    Tentali Vera
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 60

    Red Mage Abilities

    So just curious here if the red mage is a combo of black and white magic does that mean the red mage will be able to heal granted I know that they red mage is a dps class but if he has white magic in him will he be able to heal? I'm not talking massively like with the white mages and bennediction and such just small little heals to help out as needed or something
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    Noyoyo Noyo
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Nobody knows yet.
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    Wolfysbane's Avatar
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    Tentali Vera
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Damn I was really hoping that we would know something by now haha mainly cause a friend of mine mains healers basically only reason he plays the game at all and when he saw that there were no new healers he was kinda pissed haha so I'm trying to get him on board lol
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    We will have a better idea of what RDM (well, all the jobs) can do Monday morning.
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Going by the two videos we have of their gameplay so far, here's my take on what SE means when they say red magic is a white and black magic hybrid. I suspect it just means that instead of being limited to the division of elements used like White Mages (only earth, air, water) and Black Mages (only fire, ice, lightning) are, Red Mages will have access to all element types. There's a bit of speculation here, but we do have enough visual evidence to at least partially support this theory:

    In the lead up to the melee attack in both trailers they appear to be using some basic elemental casts. In the red mage preview, it looks like a lightning and then either a water or ice spell. In the benchmark they use a lightning and an air spell. A case could also be made that the tether ability that pulls them to their target is an earth spell since it fits the look of what an earth spell might be, but that's less clear. Regardless of the tether and ice/water uncertainty, however, at the very least they're using both a lightning and an air spell, which are normally on opposite sides of the BLM/WHM spectrum.

    Here's the videos for reference starting at the rdm combat sequences:
    Red mage preview: https://youtu.be/SKuIOtF41dI?t=26s
    Stormblood benchmark: https://youtu.be/3_JxY2pRHn4?t=1m54s

    This says nothing about healing abilities of course, but I doubt they'll have any. At least not anything that's more powerful than a cross-role Cure already is. If RDM gets any native healing related abilities I suspect it would be along the lines of minor damage mitigation (e.g. a small party-wide phalanx effect on long cooldown), healing potency increase (e.g. a mantra-like effect), or minor resource management (e.g. something more like mp-goad rather than mage's ballad.) Unlike with the elemental speculation above, however, there's no evidence at all for any type of support ability so far, so support ability talk is much more speculative and may very well not even be related to the phrase 'hybrid'.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 05-19-2017 at 08:32 AM.

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    whats happening monday lol sorry a bit out of the loop
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    Wynne Yilmaz
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfysbane View Post
    whats happening monday lol sorry a bit out of the loop
    Try clicking on the link in Rongway's post. :P
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    Violet Baudelaire
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 83
    I'd like to point out that RDM having cures available shouldn't be considered out of the realm of possibility. SMN has a few basic tricks. Their healing is nothing to write home about, but having an extra rez can potentially save runs. What if RDM is allowed similar tools?
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I could see RDM getting a say 300 or 400 potency heal scaling off INT.

    Useful for self healing and in some limited circumstances, but you're not replacing a healer in any serious content when you only have a weak basic heal ability.
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    Blue Plenilune
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    Diabolos
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    The content of the next Live Letter is described as being about job action changes and battle system adjustments, but I hope they will dedicate a decent amount of time to talk about both Red Mage and Samurai. I hope to see live gameplay footage that will go over the basics of combos and ability usage. The things you should know going into those jobs at level 50 while addressing concerns players might have.

    As far as Red Mage utilizing white magic, I sincerely hope that it will amount to more than purely offensive application. There is a decent possibility of white magic being tied to protective abilities, but I would like to see at least one healing spell. I have some hope considering they have given Clemency to Paladin. Red Mage could receive their own healing spell, one that can preferably be used on other party members, which would be appropriate for a job that has nearly always had access to basic healing magic. Just one spell is all it takes to say Red Mage is capable of healing (to a better extent than Cure or Physick on any non-healer job).
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    Last edited by Blueyes; 05-19-2017 at 07:40 PM.

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