Bots are a serious issue that needs to be fixed ASAP.

Bots artificially inflate the supply and therefore cause prices to go down, hurting actual gatherers who gather with time and sweat.

This needs to be fixed. It's hurting the gatherer economy badly right now. It's why omnigatherer isn't really profitable while omnicrafters make millions. The dev team is willing to go so far as to ban chat in the Feast after the toxicity so it shows they have the capacity to stop botting too especially when more people are complaining about botting than with PvP.

Breaking news.... good find there Lois

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Originally Posted by Skyrior

The dev team is willing to go so far as to ban chat in the Feast after the toxicity so it shows they have the capacity to stop botting too especially when more people are complaining about botting than with PvP.

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You misunderstand. PVP was behind gathering bots, not the other way around. They are able to avoid banning people for botting by ignoring it. They couldn't do the same with PVP, hence the removal of chat.

I don't mind it, at least we have some materials on hand, that most level 50+ gatherers abandoned long time ago. Sometimes I can't be bothered to go and grab 5 low tier materials that you need as sub material etc, or the pain to gather shards if I forgot to sent out my 6 retainers, I am glad to get these items without any frustration. Same goes for crafting, you know how much money I make with items people abandoned years ago? I don't mind couple of bots undercutting me, at the end I still make enough gil to not care. It can't be compared with pvp bots since that's a complete different thing, and why nowadays everybody needs to move their actual topic of interest towards pvp, when trying to prove a point?

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Originally Posted by Skyrior

Bots artificially inflate the supply and therefore cause prices to go down, hurting actual gatherers who gather with time and sweat.

This needs to be fixed. It's hurting the gatherer economy badly right now. It's why omnigatherer isn't really profitable while omnicrafters make millions. The dev team is willing to go so far as to ban chat in the Feast after the toxicity so it shows they have the capacity to stop botting too especially when more people are complaining about botting than with PvP.

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Um .. XIV 1.0 had bots since early on, XIV 2.0 had bots on release day.

This game has always had bots, I've given up hoping SE will ever do anything about it, all they so is ban-waves then the next week there are literally SCORES of new ones power-leveling, you can see them leveling in the Black Shroud on Mondays regularly and by Friday they're 50+: you can see them using Search, there are usually two set of them, one with keyboard-mashed names the others with two names of 4/5 characters where you'll immediately see a pattern to how they've been generated.

One wave I reported over 30, three weeks later the 10 I checked were still here, level 50+ so I gave up reporting since there is no easy way to report bots you can only see a nameplate of that can't be targeted.

I twice reported the Free Companies they form, often with 24/24 active members, those FCs still existed 2 months later so I gave up reporting them.

Wouldn't it be possible to trace said bots to find out where their clients operate? It's obvious they're part of some RMT service (money for gil, money for level 60, etc.) which to some extent should be illegal.

The funny thing is, it's not exactly illegal. And even if it was, the first question would be, by which country's laws. It's against the Terms of Service, yes and bannable offense.

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The funny thing is, it's not exactly illegal. And even if it was, the first question would be, by which country's laws. It's against the Terms of Service, yes and bannable offense.

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I hate that i'm posting in a thread by He Who Shall Not Be Named's thread but if you think of the game as it's own separate country and the terms of service as the law then it kinda is illegal, that's not even stretching into RP either.

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I hate that i'm posting in a thread by He Who Shall Not Be Named's thread but if you think of the game as it's own separate country and the terms of service as the law then it kinda is illegal, that's not even stretching into RP either.

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That is a fine comparison to make, if you are fully aware what illegal means. However too often I see people use "illegal" when they meant "is not allowed" or even "I don't like it" and that's rather big disparity between the concepts.

Another day, another Skyrior troll thread.

There is no evidence that Tataru is a Garlean spy.

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Originally Posted by Lirion

There is no evidence that Tataru is a Garlean spy.

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Indeed its common knowledge that Tataru is an avatar of Ziodark. Hide your children, she is comming for them.

http://i.imgur.com/zEYFlhG.jpg

This game has no bots. Gating zones behind MSQ solved all the botting problems.

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This game has no bots. Gating zones behind MSQ solved all the botting problems.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQVsC_EWDL0

I saw these bots few days ago myself, was kinda surprised, after few seconds of killing something around them, they gone and jumped one direction .. like 200 meters and did the same, strange stuff.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQVsC_EWDL0

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I was joking or being bitter, probably more bitter. If you check the threads where they discuss MSQ gating. Always half a dozen people it stopped botting in HW's. They pretend like out of sight out of mind.

The bots from vid. If you wait by the sylph dailies/timed bottany node. You can see them doing MSQ. For some reason they can talk to the npcs underground teleporting back and forth. But they can't do the dance emote underground.

As long as the bots are paying a subscription, they'll always be around.

How do you propose to fix the problem? SE has been working on handling bots for quite some time, and recently there's the easier way to report RMT. Maybe you can suggest something different. It's not really fair to complain without offering a solution.

Edit: Ah, well I didn't realize this was a troll till I saw OP. Gosh darnit.

Tataru confirmed Zenos Yae Galvus

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This needs to be fixed. It's hurting the gatherer economy badly right now. It's why omnigatherer isn't really profitable while omnicrafters make millions.

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While bots are a problem, they aren't remotely the reason gatherers make less than crafters, considering their only real effect on the market is keeping the price of shards low. Gatherers make less than crafters because: 1. most crafters are also gatherers 2. most items use very few gathered items to make, and most importantly 3. There's an infinite supply of items

Just to hijack the thread away from its intended subject, has anyone else been seeing shout bots somehow getting around the blacklist? I've seen a few spammers in the last couple days that, when I go to bl them, it returns with a "no character by that name could be found" response, yet a few minutes later there's another shout by the same character. I wanted to believe they were just getting banned before the bl went through, but it seems more like they've found some way around it so it gets harder to ignore them.

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Just to hijack the thread away from its intended subject, has anyone else been seeing shout bots somehow getting around the blacklist? I've seen a few spammers in the last couple days that, when I go to bl them, it returns with a "no character by that name could be found" response, yet a few minutes later there's another shout by the same character. I wanted to believe they were just getting banned before the bl went through, but it seems more like they've found some way around it so it gets harder to ignore them.

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Sounds like they're logging out and perhaps even fully deleting the character as soon as a shout or two is done.
Because then they could make another character by the same name, which is a lot easier to automate than it is getting a new name each time (by a small degree, I'd imagine).