I'll make you a deal Yoshi

I have 5 friends who want to play this game. They are not happy with how it launched but one thing keeps them from playing with the recent service fee announcement.

Per character cost and retainers possibly costing X number of dollars after 2.0.

Even with the hard-drive crisis affecting the world I'm sure it doesn't cost that much to store the data required for a retainer and/or character. I say this from a developer standpoint as aside from graphic design that is also my main job.

Now personally, yes I can afford to have multiple characters but I don't feel as I'm most do that having more than 1 should cost that much more.

So here's my deal :):
I'm willing to pay 15.99/month for 3 character slots (including 1 retainer each).
This will be inline with many of the MMO's your trying to compete with.

Each additional character slot is 4.99 (one time fee, we buy it outright, maximum of 8 or 16)

Each additional retainer is $1 / month (to a maximum of three)

It's "somewhat" microtransction based but it doesn't provide a benefit other than storage. If your worried about RMT than focus on that, rather than limiting what your players can do with their time/money.

Please keep in mind that it doesn't matter what this game offers. If another game offers a comparable product and at a price that gives better value, you will lose that customer at least 50% of the time.

My friends and I want multiple characters to experience a job or two on that race. I want to be a big honking man meat of a monk, but a Lalafell paladin. I want my Bard to be a cat.

Will I buy more slots? No, because I don't need many. Would my friends? Yes.

And since this is my first Poll! (which I said I would never do)

Like this post if you want it.

Like this post if you DON'T want it.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't work this way. You cant just make a deal with the producer on a person my person basis..... You pay what they are charging or you don't play. The decision to charge monthly fee's and the amount agreed on was probably thought out, discussed, rediscussed, voted on, then published. It's not going to change on the wim of a forum post I'm sorry. Resistance is Futile.

You do not need more then 1 character, you can do EVERYTHING on one, if you still want a alt, buy space for one more, if you just want "more space" use your retainers, its not a hard concept to understand, its sad wow and other mmos corrupted people to where they need 10+ alts when 1 character can do everything in this game which is better then having alts

i gotta deal too, how about 4 dollars a months and ill give you half my cheeseburger yoshi.

At this point there's no real point to be different races. Except that it's all pure vanity...and vanity in an MMO in recent years has been priced outside of the standard subscription model.

Play any free to play and you'll see the true costs of a vanity item...especially if the vanity item comes in a random chest that you might get 1 in 100 chests. $3 a character a month...cheaper then what it would truly costs you in most MMOs. SE doesn't want you to play only 1 class. I think that has been clear from the start...and play any later day final fantasy and it's clear that they want you to have an everything class and then choose how you want to play based on the limitations of what you can apply to said character.

companies dont change prices after changing them for a nice thread

I got a charizard card if anyone is interested in trade

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Originally Posted by Icehunter

Respectfully you didn't get the purpose behind it. Some people don't want to level all jobs on one character they want a race behind the character's job.

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Then you should be willing to pay for what you want, since unlike most MMOs out there your one character literally does everything in SE's Final Fantasy MMOs so you don't need multiple characters perse in terms of experiencing jobs and the like.

Other MMOs allow free character slots (F2P MMOs eventually charge for additional slots) because you're locked into 1 Class Tree per Character.

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Originally Posted by Ptolemy

You do not need more then 1 character, you can do EVERYTHING on one, if you still want a alt, buy space for one more, if you just want "more space" use your retainers, its not a hard concept to understand, its sad wow and other mmos corrupted people to where they need 10+ alts when 1 character can do everything in this game which is better then having alts

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I never played Wow, I could never stay interested in that game's graphics long enough to consider playing it. FFxi and Xiv are my only extensive experience with mmo's outside of beta testing others. I am 'corrupted' by my need for visual stimuli and aesthetics in any game I play, 'corrupted' by Final Fantasy, their making such lovely and versatile characters.

Until they allow you to change races? and types of each race I don't see how you can literally do everything on one character, not to mention gender difference. Even if they allowed that, getting attached to one character and not wanting to delete it because I will go back to it later, having the alts to play when I want variety would eliminate my desire to use one character and erase it to try another race/gender.

For me, there is more to playing than simply doing everything on one character. The multiple races change the visual and aesthetic aspects of the game experience. The genders and races effect the interaction I get from other players. In XIV they also added the variety of choices within the races as well and I am very pleased by this.

I will have alts purely for the visual experience and variety of playing the different types of each race and within the race, the different character models available. I also like to play different starting worlds and experiencing each starting story from different character types. When you think about how each race moves/emotes differently than another, that is also an aspect I like to experience. Starting with a new character model and race is an entirely new experience to me.

TL / DR
I am obviously very much into the graphical and visual elements of a game and they tend to make or break my experience so these things matter to me, can't speak for others but Wow has nothing to do with it in my case.

Not to mention, unlike FFXI there's not even that much racial differences in FFXIV in terms of visual appeal.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

i gotta deal too, how about 4 dollars a months and ill give you half my cheeseburger yoshi.

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3.50 a month and i will put on a sock puppet show staring my character getting beat up by the next primal boss

You're asking them to charge $16 a month? Yeah, that'll go by well. It doesn't matter what the specifics are when you're charging $16 a month and taking a risk of being the most expensive monthly subscription fee, you scare away subscribers.

I know you're going to tell me "but if you look at how it is now, that's a deal!" Explain that to someone who's looking into the game. "I have to pay $16 a month and can only make 3 characters? Why don't I pay $15 for another game and make as many as I want?" I know that it's a good deal, I know what you're getting at but that does not change the fact that it would scare a lot of potential players away.

The mere fact you're telling players to pay anything will scare players off because a lot of people rather get things for free.

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Originally Posted by Icehunter

I have 5 friends who want to play this game. They are not happy with how it launched but one thing keeps them from playing with the recent service fee announcement.

Per character cost and retainers possibly costing X number of dollars after 2.0.

Even with the hard-drive crisis affecting the world I'm sure it doesn't cost that much to store the data required for a retainer and/or character. I say this from a developer standpoint as aside from graphic design that is also my main job.

Now personally, yes I can afford to have multiple characters but I don't feel as I'm most do that having more than 1 should cost that much more.

So here's my deal :):
I'm willing to pay 15.99/month for 3 character slots (including 1 retainer each).
This will be inline with many of the MMO's your trying to compete with.

Each additional character slot is 4.99 (one time fee, we buy it outright, maximum of 8 or 16)

Each additional retainer is $1 / month (to a maximum of three)

It's "somewhat" microtransction based but it doesn't provide a benefit other than storage. If your worried about RMT than focus on that, rather than limiting what your players can do with their time/money.

Please keep in mind that it doesn't matter what this game offers. If another game offers a comparable product and at a price that gives better value, you will lose that customer at least 50% of the time.

My friends and I want multiple characters to experience a job or two on that race. I want to be a big honking man meat of a monk, but a Lalafell paladin. I want my Bard to be a cat.

Will I buy more slots? No, because I don't need many. Would my friends? Yes.

And since this is my first Poll! (which I said I would never do)

Like this post if you want it.

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A lot of people fit under your friends situation, and while I understand the meaning behind what your saying... But don't get your hopes too high, I'm sure the developers have already thought of this in mind with the plans for the service fees and such.

WoW has really broke us into some horrible habits in MMO's, so don't be disappointed that square doesn't wanna take that path.

I would love to be able to pay a one time fee to have an additional character slot and not have to pay a monthly fee for the character itself.

For example: Second character slot 3/mo or a one time charge of $48...

I would rather pay $48 then pay $3 a month. Give us the option, not everyone has to use this, and while you pay more up front, (sure I just paid for 16 months of extra character slot) playing more then that would benefit me in the long run. And SE would benefit by having more cash up front.

Sure the pricing module would have to change, but when I leave, and come back (as I do from time to time), knowing that I have that extra slot already bought and paid for is an incentive in and of it's self.

I am also in support of a lifetime subscription option if ever one should be considered. :)

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Originally Posted by Icehunter

Some people don't want to level all jobs on one character they want a race behind the character's job.

big man mnk, cat bard, lalafell tank. I know at least 5 people that like that, just in my workplace and that's how they play other mmo's.

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So, if they have "specific" wants like that, they can pay for it. Its a luxury to have various races for various jobs. People in hell want ice water. Doesn't mean they deserve to have it for nothing.