Rampant Frontlines Healer Bots

I'm on the Aether Data Center on Sargatanas. Every healer in frontlines with the last name Sharma is a bot; many people are already aware of this, however there are many more who aren't. This needs to be addressed, it's no fun joining a party where 2 of your party members are bots, and they're both healers to boot.

I'm fed up with trying to farm wins while constantly getting last place because of garbage bots. I don't know where else to take this post but considering it involves pvp, I thought this would be a good start.

Pointing out names is normally harassment, but I don't think that applies to bots - unless because it's 2017 we have bot rights activists; I wouldn't be surprised. Kidding with serious undertones aside, if something could be done about this - that'd be great.

I was in that same match with you. Even without the bots, I feel like much of the time players simply don't care enough to try. The rewards for simply being present for the short match make it too easy for folks to Leeroy Jenkins about the battlefield without regard to the objective. It's pure luck if you end up on a team that cares about trying their best. I haven't been able to think of a good solution to the problem yet. But yes, that whole bot thing is frustrating too. At least the underachievers have the potential to benefit the team, whereas the bots completely handicap the team.

this is why i only run in premade teams and never queue solo anymore lol. Not only I dont have to deal with their bullshit, but at the same time, they offer easy kills, especially the ones that stay on their mounts whilst being attacked. I do feel sorry for those who aren't in premade teams/good teams and they get slaughtered over and over though...in the space of 2 weeks, i got over 600 kills off of them, currently sitting at 2167/5000 (only just under 2 months ago i picked up going as a dps i was healer for a year but got bored)

There's multiple pvp discord channels* on aether where people will round everyone who's available up, create a party in private pf and queue up.

Primal has them too. Last night I had to report two healer bots in the same match (different servers). Mind you, it's not just healers all the time.

We messed around in a premade on Chaos the other night and well, I can't link the video here because I'll get banned for naming and shaming, but it was pretty bad. We ended up just spawn camping because they'd just run into us over and over so it seemed pointless to hit the shatters. At one point we approached Adders base and there was 4 of them mounted together. We tagged one and they all simultaneously tried to run through us before dismounting and doing some weird rotation. Seriously lol, garo mounts don't even take that long.

Ran right up to a bot MCH, bound him, and trigger my LB. . .

Then watched with abject horror as he deploys a Bishop Turret next to me and tries to mount up and run.

Like, seriously?!

They should just go on and put in the option to report bots the same as reporting rmt. This is ridiculous when 50% of people in fates are bots, gatherers are bots destroying the already crippled market and bots that teleport around able to buy up houses within less then a second of them being back on the market. One of the top raid FC's on my friends server owns 20+ houses from bots constantly selling them for RMT/gil and savage runs. Its been reported on other unofficial fan based message boards about its leadership boasting of making a very nice living off RMT and these bots. There have been people botting for 3+ years and despite possibly hundreds of reports they never get touched. Unless you whisper spam rmt or teleport hack you are never touched. GG on punishing legit players which chances are only ps4 players are the only legit. I imagine every computer user bots.

I love ff to death but the one thing wow does has over it is how they punish bots harshly minus that addon that practically lets you make macros with auto hot key to somehow cheat without Blizzard really doing anything. And man frontlines are getting worse.. When you see 7 people out of your entire group pace back and forth dismounting and remounting in the same pattern you know the bot makers have finally put in scripts like wow has with bots in battlegrounds. Its not frontlines pvp its frontlines pvb now.

The awesome healer bot they are talking about. If you start poking them they will try to cast protect sometimes. Easy kills specially since they don't seem to follow a group they have this sort of walk shuffle around mid.

The cool down for vote kick is to long. I never thought I would say that. But I had a group where all of us had at least kicked them once on the weekend. They are getting booted regularly and they have been reported.

The game doesn't seem to have any bot tracking software. Never heard of any antivirus problems and usually one antivirus will hate bot detection. They are playing enough for SE to allow. What is funny is this bot has another character from same FC with similar name that actually plays. So they probably using a second account if it gets banned the rewards are probably in FC chest anyways. Unlimited desynth and tomestone mats.

Also has anyone actually gotten in trouble for linking a youtube video with names in it?

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Originally Posted by Moonlite

Also has anyone actually gotten in trouble for linking a youtube video with names in it?

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Yes, usually they get banned & the video is removed from the post so it ends up futile. All SE need to do is spend a few hours playing on a NA server, not even PVP, just wander around. They'll see gathering bots, speed hacking (I had a Lalafell move so fast past me they skipped frames - I was at 144fps!), teleporting, PVP bots & so much more.

Unfortunately it seems that the Japan centric nature of the game & development team gives them a false impression of the community as a whole. Heck, they only need to watch Twitch streaming to see most of the above cheats, plus they get the bonus of scripted encounters & seeing all the hacks used to cheat in PVP content.

We've experience it, so why haven't they? I'm assuming that they haven't otherwise they'd be banning them.

On Chaos, i spotted 2 bots and reported them with some ppl. No answer recieved and i feel like SE totaly don't care about this. It's really annoying to see this, and more when you have 2 bots in your team.

Or they could do what Blizzard does and sue the bot makers. Would not work against the chinese farming companies that most likely have private in house bots but the public sale ones is easily targeted.

Thank you guys for the replies, it sucks that this has been a long time issue now and one that appears to be worsening. I'd love to get involved with PvP linkshells and discord channels for both Feast and Frontlines if it means I can avoid this constant nonsense.

I suppose my advice to anyone who seriously enjoys PvP would be to do the same, look for linkshells and discord channels. There doesn't seem to be much else we can do about the bot issue.

I just found out that the infamous Black Mage Speedster is still playing. They never got banned even though Yoshi *himself* made a post about them! They ranked in Season 3 Feast too.

I am not sure what the point was. But I had 72 man where an opposing teams guy beat us to the ice right next to the base first spawn. If you are going to positional hack don't teleport right into 24 players all alone. It was funny and sad at the same time.

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I am not sure what the point was. But I had 72 man where an opposing teams guy beat us to the ice right next to the base first spawn. If you are going to positional hack don't teleport right into 24 players all alone. It was funny and sad at the same time.

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I've noticed that a lot too, either a member of the team is allowed to leave the holding area early or it's a definite hack. If someone can get to a first-spawn ice near to a base quicker than the base's team it has to be dodgy.

Not necessarily a Bot. But has anyone had an opposing player when ever you use a skill on them in untargets them? They were fine till about 5% then any skill i sued would just untarget. The dots killed them. I just never had that happen. I used multiple skills instance and cast.

There's a SMN bot from Excal that I got in a ton of my games yesterday. Either that or they were deliberately trying to afk/die a lot so they didn't have to do anything. It was kind of hard to tell, because at one point they were getting focused and I popped Cover on them, and they actually did retreat back into our group (and then of course immediately ran back into the enemy team and died, which was frustrating as hell). But then in another match they went literally all 0s across the board except in damage taken (they died 6 times).

I'd say bot, except the Cover thing was kind of weird and makes me wonder if an actual person isn't just running a script while still being at the wheel or something in case of "accidents"?

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I'd say bot, except the Cover thing was kind of weird and makes me wonder if an actual person isn't just running a script while still being at the wheel or something in case of "accidents"?

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You know I don't use bots Lore but, as a scholar (in game & out) I made it a point to know my enemy. The things these modern bots are capable of is unbelievable. I'd even go as far as saying that once the initial character selection & start city is done everything else will play "like a real person" (with exceptions). Heck, they can even choose the character & start city if you want. They'll do your MSQ, your GC stuff & anything else you can think of. It's frightening when you know enough about it. Some will even respond to chats containing keywords so they look "real but busy".

I'm fine with them since they're actually good at healing. I kicked so many butts with their support and won matches.

And still like in the german thread about gathering bots, no official reaction, right? I mean, if they really dont care then tell us so! Cause fine then, I'll get an bot for stormblood before once more working my ass off for nothing...

Had a WHM bot repose spam me, attempt to los me, bind me facing their SMN both that tried to help (free kill), then blow Benediction. . . at full HP.

That's when I stopped toying with it and decided it didn't need to exist anymore.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

Primal has them too. Last night I had to report two healer bots in the same match (different servers). Mind you, it's not just healers all the time.

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I know exactly who you're talking about, I've been gone for 2 weeks but I got in a match with you and saw em. Made a report and tried to get them but yeah we just can't win :/ I wish SE would actually give a damn about PvP these bots ruin all the fun.

I've had warrior bots on the flags lately where they hit Holmgang, all their CDs and then run to their base and sit there till they're full hp. They run back to the base and sit there once again, they also always purify immediately regardless of what was put on them.

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I know exactly who you're talking about, I've been gone for 2 weeks but I got in a match with you and saw em. Made a report and tried to get them but yeah we just can't win :/ I wish SE would actually give a damn about PvP these bots ruin all the fun.

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I didn't realise at the time but one of the bots was someone I'd reported before so they're getting away with it for several weeks at least.

Dont just report the healers. Report everyone. You can see bots pacing back and forth between bases as well.

Well it seems to be really ramping up. 50% of groups are now all bots...

This past weekend and this week. The really blatant bots on aether have been some what missing.

How can you tell if it's a bot vs someone who's just a bad player?

Legit question, I reported someone this morning for repeatedly failing to heal even after specifically being called out. She would leave us when we needed healing, repeatedly. The other healer died multiple times trying to save us. We were up at first, but due to that one healer never healing, we ended up losing. Checked party list and she was a Flame (we were Mael) so I suspected she was throwing it for them but I'd like to know how to tell if it's a bot.