Re: Inappropriate Weather Effects

Or as my wife and I like to ask, why in the heck does it rain so much in Camp Drybone?

I love the weather effects in FFXIV. Seeing things like wind and rain affect my character makes the world of Eorzea that much more real to me. It is something I really appreciate as a player.

That's why it feels off when I go to places supposedly dry and arid and it's raining most of the time. It feels dissonant. Developers, is there some way to modify the regional weather so it is more appropriate for the area?

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

Developers, is there some way to modify the regional weather so it is more appropriate for the area?

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Not sure if serious but easy answer. No.

The only problem with drybone is that sometimes it ISN'T raining. Everyone knows it's the wettest place in eorzea. It's part of its charm.

The calamity cause some areas to experience weird weather patterns, im making this up but it could be true.

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Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

The calamity cause some areas to experience weird weather patterns, im making this up but it could be true.

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You're not making it up. Remember how everyone kept on about how new the snow was in Coerthas Central Highlands?

...and here I was expecting someone having the same problems with certain weather patterns (certain types of rain; lightning) as I do - triggering heavy motion sickness and forcing me to leave the area if I dont want to play blind (as in: with closes eyes)...

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Originally Posted by Vidu

...and here I was expecting someone having the same problems with certain weather patterns (certain types of rain; lightning) as I do - triggering heavy motion sickness and forcing me to leave the area if I dont want to play blind (as in: with closes eyes)...

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Do you typically get simulation sickness? You can probably adjust aspects of the display (resolution and such) to help mitigate it.

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

Do you typically get simulation sickness? You can probably adjust aspects of the display (resolution and such) to help mitigate it.

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Yeah, I do - its been getting worse and worse during the past years. I already have most battel effects turned off since spells like holy trigger it aswell, but there doesnt seem to be a fix for effects like that (or even enemy spells...). Wish I could just turn them off alltogether since non of the adjudsments I tried really work >.<
But since thats not possible and I can hardly "demand" that SE changes the game or the effects because of that I just avoid the shroud on rainy days and pray I dont get Lost city in my roulettes /shrug

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Originally Posted by dragonseth07

You're not making it up. Remember how everyone kept on about how new the snow was in Coerthas Central Highlands?

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Yep - this is the canon explanation.

When Dalamud descended and Bahamut appeared and tried to lay waste to Eorzea, it seriously messed with the aether in a number of areas, and since aether is tied up with the elements this shifted the kind of weather patterns present. Coerthas now suffers from a shift in the ice-aspected aether which caused a flash ice age of sorts, whereas Drybone is dealing with (I presume) a shift in water-aspected aether, hence the frequent rain.

If I recall correctly it used to rain very rarely in Eastern Thanalan as you would expect but as there were things that required rain in the area (cetrain sightseeing log entries) that were nearly impossible to get without camping out for days they increased the frequency of rain. It does make a bit silky though I agree. Would have been a better idea to ease the sightseeing requirements in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by AlexanderThorolund

Not sure if serious but easy answer. No.

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I was serious. Basically, I was wondering if places like Camp Drybone could have the likelihood of rain decreased. Since we have Skywatchers, I guessed that weather is programmed separately for each region.

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

I was serious. Basically, I was wondering if places like Camp Drybone could have the likelihood of rain decreased. Since we have Skywatchers, I guessed that weather is programmed separately for each region.

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The reason that Drybone is named as such is pre-Calamity, it was extremely barren and did get no rain. However, the calamity, specifically the obscenely massive amounts of aether involved in it, distorted the weather patterns of regions globally, hence why it rains a lot in Drybone and snows in Coerthas. That is the official reasoning, given in the story of the game as well. The weather is not "inappropriate," even if it seems counter-intuitive.

Get these type of threads when people either don't know or don't care about the lore of the game.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Get these type of threads when people either don't know or don't care about the lore of the game.

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It's kind of easy to forget about. I was only reminded of that fact doing one of the 50-60 gathering quests. I think it was the fishing one. Until that moment, I had totally forgotten the Calamity had such serious effects on the regional climates.

Dunno, I like that it rains a lot at Camp Drybone. It adds character and a little bit of humor to the game in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Get these type of threads when people either don't know or don't care about the lore of the game.

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Well Lexia, given the quests in Camp Drybone specifically tell you the reason for the area's name is due to it being so arid, I feel that according to the lore of the game, the area should be arid. I don't recall anything telling me of a recent change in the weather patterns in that region of Ezorea.

It may be you all are right and the rain is there due to the Calamity. In which case, it would have been sufficient to simply have a quest giver mention the change. Otherwise, people are just making up headcanon for a programming error.

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Dunno, I like that it rains a lot at Camp Drybone. It adds character and a little bit of humor to the game in my opinion.

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I agree. I laugh everytime I go into the Camp and it's raining. It's just so ludicrous. You have NPCs going on about how the people bring their dead there because of the low humidity and it's POURING like 80% of the time.

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Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho

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Well I'm sure there are most likely lore errors in the game that were messed up, omitted or overlooked for what ever reasons. For that is good to know the overall picture if wonder why a certain area the way it is.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

Yeah, I do - its been getting worse and worse during the past years. I already have most battel effects turned off since spells like holy trigger it aswell, but there doesnt seem to be a fix for effects like that (or even enemy spells...). Wish I could just turn them off alltogether since non of the adjudsments I tried really work >.<
But since thats not possible and I can hardly "demand" that SE changes the game or the effects because of that I just avoid the shroud on rainy days and pray I dont get Lost city in my roulettes /shrug

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Actually, if there's accessibility issues due to disability, you might be able to demand it via the law. Worth contacting a solicitor to see if it'd be possible for some sort of way to get SE to do it by law (if the lack of accessibility does breach laws)

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

Actually, if there's accessibility issues due to disability, you might be able to demand it via the law. Worth contacting a solicitor to see if it'd be possible for some sort of way to get SE to do it by law (if the lack of accessibility does breach laws)

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I dont think theres any law that requires video games to be accessible for all. Would be ridiculous to demand everything available for everyone by law.

As for the subject:

I do think that it is nice with a monsoon rain in Eastenr thanalan as a remider this is the edge of the desert. This is supported by the abundance of greenery in the area.

I will agree it rains waaay too often though. It really does feel like at least 30% of my time in Drybone is wet. A rainy storm every 100 weatherchanges would be better.

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

Actually, if there's accessibility issues due to disability, you might be able to demand it via the law. Worth contacting a solicitor to see if it'd be possible for some sort of way to get SE to do it by law (if the lack of accessibility does breach laws)

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I dont think this would count, since accessibility usually tends to be more for building access and things that would prevent people from going about their daily lives, not hobby related things.

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

Actually, if there's accessibility issues due to disability, you might be able to demand it via the law. Worth contacting a solicitor to see if it'd be possible for some sort of way to get SE to do it by law (if the lack of accessibility does breach laws)

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I'm not so delusional that I would demand SE to change their game to fit my needs xD Thats my problem and I know how to deal with it - apart from me being well aware of me having this problem before starting the game, so I purchased it and keep paying to pay for it for 4 years, being well aware of it. Its not like I bought something that I cant use now because of it.
And at least in germany I doubt there would be any legal ground for this

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Originally Posted by Unholychinchilla

If I recall correctly it used to rain very rarely in Eastern Thanalan as you would expect but as there were things that required rain in the area (cetrain sightseeing log entries) that were nearly impossible to get without camping out for days they increased the frequency of rain. It does make a bit silky though I agree. Would have been a better idea to ease the sightseeing requirements in my opinion.

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the statistic on this site: http://en.ff14angler.com/spot/30301

says it rains 20% of all time in Eastern Thanalan. 15% Showers and 5% Rain, that's indeed quite ofter for a place called "Drybone" ^^
also 20% Fogs or Clouds, wich means only 60% of all time is actual sunny weather.

but yes, because the weather is tied to the sightseeing log and some fish, it's not so simple to change the weather patterns. it would affect some gameplay elements.

Consider this, if you live in the desert you experience monsoon season. They occur around summer time and there can be plenty of rain and thunder storms to be had.

Came into this thread thinking someone was suggesting pointy nipples and shrunken packages during rain/snow where temps are low... Oh forums how you have changed me.

Remember mining Alumen out there for 6 Eorzean days straight (so about 4hrs-ish, not sure on RL-ET time scale) anyway this was back in 2.1 & I saw rain/no sun for about 2 of those 6 so can agree it does "feal" off concidering I live in a badlands/prarie region in reality, if u'r determined enouf u just get a hat & maybe some shampoo can't let all that free water go to waste right?

What I had to lv Miner to suppy Armorer... to try & keep up with my friend uber-lv'n GLD/PLD, swear I got 1 day to lv my GLD outa that grind then it was off to Mythril for lv40 gear -_-! grrr (good thing I cared way less for crafting by 3.0, like so little I just now worried about them gear-wise even thou their all lv60)

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Originally Posted by Velthice

The only problem with drybone is that sometimes it ISN'T raining. Everyone knows it's the wettest place in eorzea. It's part of its charm.

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*Throws a glove at Velthice* How dare you say there's a place rainier then Raindania!

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Originally Posted by AdventZero

*Throws a glove at Velthice* How dare you say there's a place rainier then Raindania!

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the statistic says it only rains 13,4% of the time in Raindania, or 15% because that sounds better^^
so yeah, it's rainier in Camp Drybone than in Raindania ^_____________^

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Originally Posted by Tint

the statistic says it only rains 13,4% of the time in Raindania, or 15% because that sounds better^^
so yeah, it's rainier in Camp Drybone than in Raindania ^_____________^

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You...you're lying! *covers ears and runs away*

(honestly it's a bit of a surprise to hear that, seems like it's always raining whenever I log on. Must just be hitting that 13,4% window every time. xD)

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Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

The calamity cause some areas to experience weird weather patterns, im making this up but it could be true.

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No, that's true. Coerthas got royally screwed with never ending snowfall.

The problem is not that it suddenly rains more thanks to the calamity but that it should have more plants if it rains that much. I know that there are plants but I somehow feel that in real life if it rains that often, that the landscape would have more plants.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

The problem is not that it suddenly rains more thanks to the calamity but that it should have more plants if it rains that much. I know that there are plants but I somehow feel that in real life if it rains that often, that the landscape would have more plants.

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Maybe the ground is just bad? Since its all sand plants might not be able to grow there - water isnt the only thing a plants requires. If its just sand over solid rocks, plants might not be able to get a good grip before they're washed away by the water again

The only weird weather was when it was raining in Ishgard (only for that one cutscene).

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Originally Posted by Alleo

The problem is not that it suddenly rains more thanks to the calamity but that it should have more plants if it rains that much. I know that there are plants but I somehow feel that in real life if it rains that often, that the landscape would have more plants.

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Drybone had basically zero pre-calamity, I'd say the amount of green it has now is a significant increase over the 5-year time gap.

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Originally Posted by Neophyte

The only weird weather was when it was raining in Ishgard (only for that one cutscene).

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I occasionally walk out to find the weather bugged and it is completely cloudless and sunny.

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Originally Posted by Unholychinchilla

If I recall correctly it used to rain very rarely in Eastern Thanalan as you would expect but as there were things that required rain in the area (cetrain sightseeing log entries) that were nearly impossible to get without camping out for days they increased the frequency of rain. It does make a bit silky though I agree. Would have been a better idea to ease the sightseeing requirements in my opinion.

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Just blame Leviathan being summoned and then Shiva which just caused more messed up weather conditions to occur on the dry desert <_< oh and don't forget Bismark, see all that water based aether enters the atmosphere and eorzean science says it changed the weather patterns to make it rain more in the desert >_>.

There are a number of quests that explain the weather and plant ecology in E. Than. near he goobue corpse. The short answer is it used to be bone dry for decades, hence the name, before the calamity which was only 5 years ago story wise, and they just didnt rename it. In those 5 years its progressively gotten more rainy. Not long enough to water rot all the cacti, but short enough the forest is only starting to clain the desert through loamfall enriching the sandy soil into something usable.

They've got to have the best drainage and pumping system in all of eorzea in the giant hole the town is located in. If this were based in reality that hole would be flooded.

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Originally Posted by Bloody

The reason that Drybone is named as such is pre-Calamity, it was extremely barren and did get no rain. However, the calamity, specifically the obscenely massive amounts of aether involved in it, distorted the weather patterns of regions globally, hence why it rains a lot in Drybone and snows in Coerthas. That is the official reasoning, given in the story of the game as well. The weather is not "inappropriate," even if it seems counter-intuitive.

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It was also retconned in, though, since Drybone was still dry when ARR started. The frequent rains were added quite a bit later. (Coerthas, on the other hand, has been snow covered all along, though blizzard conditions there are relatively new.)

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Originally Posted by Unholychinchilla

If I recall correctly it used to rain very rarely in Eastern Thanalan as you would expect but as there were things that required rain in the area (cetrain sightseeing log entries) that were nearly impossible to get without camping out for days they increased the frequency of rain. It does make a bit silky though I agree. Would have been a better idea to ease the sightseeing requirements in my opinion.

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Actually the number of Rain (5%)/Showers(15%) weather patterns has stayed the same since ARR launched. What was changed was that original only Rain (5%) triggered the sightseeing location now both Rain and Showers (20% total) trigger the location.

There was always a 1/5 chance of it "raining" but most of the time it was the windy rain weather known as Showers.