Genderlocked Items

This is something that has bothered me since I started playing in 2014, but really came to be unbearable this past month with the release of the Aymeric item set. Is it really that much more effort to adjust these items so that we can wear them and enjoy them regardless of our character's gender?

I was excited for the release of the Aymeric set in particular, i looked forward to it for ages. And then on the day of release - sorry only men can wear this.
Sorry guys only girls get to wear feminine clothes

I am very sick and tired of these subtly sexist choices, and they ARE choices deliberately being made. It would not be a terrible imposition to alter a few polys to fit for gender differences. If an outfit can fit on both a Lalafel and a Roe it can fit for any gender.

We've got like four topics about this floating on the first couple of pages. You can just use those.

Also obligatory "females get more outfits than males already" comment. And obligatory "Why genderlock anything at all" comment.

Maybe if enough people complain about it repeatedly it might be addressed seriously.

Maybe some of us think genders having clothing differences is ok. I want more differences in this game, not less. I want them to do so equally though.

We shouldn't be getting these NPC special armours in the first place, it's stupid taking what is meant to be unique to them. Also I agree with needing more differences. Having locked gear is good, having an unequal amount is what's bad.

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Originally Posted by Naahrl

Maybe if enough people complain about it repeatedly it might be addressed seriously.

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Then go complain in the topics people already made about it instead of cluttering the front page of the forums with trash. 20 pages in one thread is better than 20 threads on one page.

Also, probably not wise to tag your own topic with "sexism". I mean, there's already some inflammatory tags up, but this is your topic. C'mon, man.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Maybe some of us think genders having clothing differences is ok. I want more differences in this game, not less. I want them to do so equally though.

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Yeah there isn't anything wrong with genderlocked gear. But there should be equality between the two.

As long as they don't start doing it like WoW where a fully covering chest piece on a male character randomly becomes a platekini on a female character, I don't especially care what they do with this gender locking business.

I'll just keep repeating this:

We need more gender and race locked gear in the game.

MORE, not less.

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Originally Posted by Atlaworks

We've got like four topics about this floating on the first couple of pages. You can just use those.

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Originally Posted by Atlaworks

Also obligatory "females get more outfits than males already" comment.

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Originally Posted by Naahrl

Maybe if enough people complain about it repeatedly it might be addressed seriously.

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#GlamourLog4Never

I have to admit, seeing Aymeric's attire male only saddened me a little. I am trying to find a good paladin glamour, and that would have been quite awesome for it. Unfortunately, I don't feel like making my character a male. But I am okay with it too, while it'd be nice to have a female version of the item, it makes sense that it's male only.

I think it's good that the boys get exclusive glamours too! The balance should be a bit better than it is now though.

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Originally Posted by PArcher

I'll just keep repeating this:

We need more gender and race locked gear in the game.

MORE, not less.

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Agreed. It's such a shame what little racial gear we have.

As I've said in other threads, its a cultural disconnect. In the east while male and female are equal in most cases, they are different. Distinctly so. They believe the only time to wear another genders' distinct style is to hide one's gender (like Faris with pirates in FFV), or for comedic value (like Cloud in FFVII).

The idea of a girl dressing like a boy or vice versa as a regularity is both foreign and alien. The people working on this sort of thing quite frankly don't understand why the west does what it does.

I'd love to be able to use Ser Aymeric's armor on my character. But the dev that slapped the tag on there though that the only reason I'd want to do that, or others would want to do that is to be silly. They've decided in their opinion that we cannot use such armor for such 'silliness'.

I don't agree with it. But that's their culture causing that. Some how some one has to educate them that it is for a serious purpose. So far no one has been able to convince them.

I agree with you, OP. No armor should be locked behind race or gender, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Naahrl

Maybe if enough people complain about it repeatedly it might be addressed seriously.

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Wrong.

Keeping one thread alive for a long time with a lot of posts gets things noticed.

I will never understand why people think that locking things behind race and gender will make them so unique. That is stupid. Taking away choice doesn't make you unique. Means that I have to conform to the same stupid looks that everyone with my race/gender has. I want more options to mix and match, more ways to express who I am. I don't want to be locked into choosing from a handful of things :/

That said, I too think its stupid that they locked his set. Don't make me pay for the full set and then only let me use the hair. Ridiculous.

I don't have a fundamental issue with gender locked sets. Specifically the sets that originate from ingame characters are supposed to be 'cosplay' sets which is why you cant dye them.

That said, I would prefer some more practical glamour for females and a little less frilly or skimpy options and of course for the sake of fairness they should be balanced. I would also add that adjusting sets for different models can take time since you need to consider things like clipping and moving naturally. Not as much as making something from scratch obviously but it does take up a portion of the modellers time.

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Originally Posted by Naahrl

Maybe if enough people complain about it repeatedly it might be addressed seriously.

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And that's why devs rarely respond in comparison to jpn threads. Instead of continuing to promote a general idea under one thread, people are convinced that if they spam the same topic, it'll get addressed.

Idk about you but if I opened my email inbox and saw twenty repetitive subject lines, i'd read the first one and delete the rest without even bothering to see what's what.

very un-needed stress and pushing on the development team

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Maybe some of us think genders having clothing differences is ok. I want more differences in this game, not less. I want them to do so equally though.

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Yeah they could come up with more outfits for men to use as clothings than these less poor clowny stuffs.

Not seriously cool looking...

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Originally Posted by Settiesama

We shouldn't be getting these NPC special armours in the first place

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THIS!

It's ridiculous that we get to see scores of Y'shtolas, Aymerics, whatever running about.

I'll be honest I don't care if there gender locked or not but make it like the crafted sets where they have various looks depending on the gender so same item for both genders but they look difrent depending on the gender but have the same overall feel

And as for the aymeric set the hair style shool have been made separate to the coat seeing as it's not gender locked it sucks you gotta pay 18$ for just a hairstyle if you play female

It does not surprise me at all to see more items for women than men as fashion is mirroring real life. Have you walked through a shopping mall? Count the items for women vs men, women tend to want and spend more on fashion then men.

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Originally Posted by RubyCirha

And as for the aymeric set the hair style shool have been made separate to the coat seeing as it's not gender locked it sucks you gotta pay 18$ for just a hairstyle if you play female

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I don't disagree, but it sucks even more that even if we pay the fee and toss the gear away, guys still can't use the Minfilia hair.

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

It does not surprise me at all to see more items for women than men as fashion is mirroring real life. Have you walked through a shopping mall? Count the items for women vs men, women tend to want and spend more on fashion then men.

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Except that this isn't real life, and female characters aren't exclusively played by women, and we're all paying the exact same subscription fee. So no.

As someone who very much wants a pair of Bard-useable over-the-forehead goggles to complete the look I'm going for, I was very annoyed that Cid's gearset is male only. I have no problem with gender-locked gear where it makes sense, but locking stuff that has no reason to be locked is just pointless.

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Originally Posted by Ransom

As someone who very much wants a pair of Bard-useable over-the-forehead goggles to complete the look I'm going for, I was very annoyed that Cid's gearset is male only. I have no problem with gender-locked gear where it makes sense, but locking stuff that has no reason to be locked is just pointless.

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Unfortunately the two are linked. They lock sets like the Thavnairian Bustier to female-only and then make the male set unisex. Then guys like me complain that we're being treated unfairly (because, well, we are) and they respond by locking items which make 'no sense' to compensate for the ones which did 'make sense' (to someone, somewhere). I feel your annoyance over the goggles. But people with female characters need to support the guys in unlocking more items if they want to avoid the same terrible treatment. We're all in this together.

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Originally Posted by Naahrl

This is something that has bothered me since I started playing in 2014, but really came to be unbearable this past month with the release of the Aymeric item set. Is it really that much more effort to adjust these items so that we can wear them and enjoy them regardless of our character's gender?

I was excited for the release of the Aymeric set in particular, i looked forward to it for ages. And then on the day of release - sorry only men can wear this.
Sorry guys only girls get to wear feminine clothes

I am very sick and tired of these subtly sexist choices, and they ARE choices deliberately being made. It would not be a terrible imposition to alter a few polys to fit for gender differences. If an outfit can fit on both a Lalafel and a Roe it can fit for any gender.

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Well I get equally as sick every time females get another exclusive good-looking outfit or hair.