Please revamp the Chocobo coloring system

I have been trying to color my Chocobo a specific color for about a month and I just can't land on it. I use guides, Chocobo calculator, color maps and nothing works. Not to mention it's time consuming and expensive. There has to be a better way of coloring your Chocobo the color you want without wasting too much time and money.

Right now, we feed our Chocobo a set of fruits that are calculated to change your color of Chocobo depending on the amount of fruit and order fed and wait 6 hours for the results. If that system is unchangeable, can you at least prompt us what color we are going to get after each fruit fed. If the color isn't what we want, we can still change it by feeding it another combination until the color we desired is prompt. Then we wait the 6 hours and done. We have the color we want.

Another easier way would be to have an NPC who can change your Chocobo's color for you. You just pay him or her the amount they ask and select the color and they'll do it for you.

If there is a better idea, please post. This is very frustrating.

I used this resource

http://ffxivchocobo.com/

seemed to work fine for me.

Simple put your current color then desired and it will tell you how many you need to feed it.

The color calculator helped me with coloring mine the way I wanted. The suggestion order of berry feeding seemed correct. What color are you trying to get? I also kept feeding after it said the colors of my chocobo's feathers were changing, I didn't wait until it actually changed to finish feeding all the fruit required.

Example, I made Jeff Apple Green using 1 × Doman Plum, 5 × Mamook Pear, 6 × O'Ghomoro Berries
Fed all at once using the order it suggested without waiting between each time it told me that the feathers were changing:

Doman Plum
O'Ghomoro Berries
O'Ghomoro Berries
Mamook Pear
O'Ghomoro Berries
Mamook Pear
O'Ghomoro Berries
Mamook Pear
O'Ghomoro Berries
Mamook Pear
O'Ghomoro Berries
Mamook Pear

A friend also did the same with Midnight blue. Her chocobo turned out exactly how she wanted it using the same site as the above post.

I used that same website with my main's bird and my alt's bird. The first one, which I turned grape purple, didn't work the first time. It went brown. But I went back to the calculator, put in the brown color and the color I wanted it, and the second time I got it to grape purple. The other one, which I wanted olive green, went the right color on the first try. So sometimes you get it right the first time, sometimes it take a second try. But that website DOES work. :)

A NPC for color changing would be great, the chocobo coloring system is old and it well needs an update or even better an upgrade!...

There are some colors that can be really hard to obtain like Lotus Pink and Sooth Black, the Twelve knows how many times I've tried to get them without success, it's still doable but it takes six hours of wait for every attempt to hit the right shade!...

Maybe Jandelaine would be interested in starting a new business for chocobos!... ;)

The color calculator is not exact and there's some rng involved. My suggestion is if the initial feeding didn't go as planned, go back to the calculator and recalculate for the current color to the one you want, then start feeding it the suggested food until you get the feathers changing color notification then just wait and repeat as needed.

It works sometimes because there is a small RNG involved in getting the correct colour.

Since you have been trying for a month now, I have to ask, are you doing this in one feeding or?

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Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

Another easier way would be to have an NPC who can change your Chocobo's color for you. You just pay him or her the amount they ask and select the color and they'll do it for you..

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I don't need to say anything else really: this should've been the proper way to make chocobo's dyeing from the very beginning. I still don't understand why this is the current system and I remember my poor sister eager to dye her chocobo green, but to give up because she didn't even have a stable.

On top of that it's a good gil sink and makes things quick. If anything we could've used the same dyes we use for the glamour.

Yes it's awkward to "dye" our animals but if the chocobo fly despite their impossible physique, I think we can survive with the possible dyeing of feathers.

I've dyed six of my alts Chocobos and never had trouble with it using the calculator. :O Have you been sure to alternate the fruits?

The -only- change I would like them to make to the system is the silly amount of time it takes to see the results.

Yup. That's the same website I use. It worked for my wife and nephew, but for me it never has worked. I got to royal blue on my own when this was introduced. After a year, I decided to go soot black and that's where it started. I couldn't land on it, so when I got to a color I already had gotten that needed 2 of the same fruits and didn't work, I just used 1 and it worked. Now I'm on an alt trying to get to black and again I'm bouncing around all over again. This time it's taking me way too long. I am feeding them all at once in order specified by the site. That RNG is killing me. We just need a simple, easy to use method for coloring our Chocobos. This is too tedious and time consuming.

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Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

Yup. That's the same website I use. It worked for my wife and nephew, but for me it never has worked. I got to royal blue on my own when this was introduced. After a year, I decided to go soot black and that's where it started. I couldn't land on it, so when I got to a color I already had gotten that needed 2 of the same fruits and didn't work, I just used 1 and it worked. Now I'm on an alt trying to get to black and again I'm bouncing around all over again. This time it's taking me way too long. I am feeding them all at once in order specified by the site. That RNG is killing me. We just need a simple, easy to use method for coloring our Chocobos. This is too tedious and time consuming.

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If there's RNG in your chocobo coloring, you're doing something wrong. Each fruit changes the color values by a set amount, so getting from A to B is a pretty straightforward calculation for a computer to do. Perhaps you're not giving it the right starting point to work with.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

If there's RNG in your chocobo coloring, you're doing something wrong. Each fruit changes the color values by a set amount, so getting from A to B is a pretty straightforward calculation for a computer to do. Perhaps you're not giving it the right starting point to work with.

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I'm pretty much following the instructions that website says. I even verify it says new feathers are growing before I move forward with the rest of the fruit list. I usually get the growing new feathers prompt on the 1st fruit, but if I don't, I feed it another on until I do and then continue as normal. I'm not doing anything different. It just won't give me black.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

If there's RNG in your chocobo coloring, you're doing something wrong. Each fruit changes the color values by a set amount, so getting from A to B is a pretty straightforward calculation for a computer to do. Perhaps you're not giving it the right starting point to work with.

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Following the instructions for a variation of brown, I got purple. Someone else I know got the wrong shade of blue and someone else went for void blue (I think?) and got soot black. All using the calculator and following the feed instructions.

Sometimes all those little RNG values add up and throw you off just enough that the guide won't account for it and you'll never land on the color you want. In that instance, its usually best to use a Han Lemon and just start back from scratch (0 RGB). If you do that, eventually you'll get the one you want.

Personally I prefer to micro feed. You have more control. (Only let it change one colour at a time)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...o-Color-Dyeing

Also a few of the colours seem harder to get and were once considered HQ* when trying to proc them.
http://i.imgur.com/OXS4iz1.png


I think its a fun mini game that doesn't need changing really... but I do think its entirely silly to be able to dye our Chocobos and NOT be able to dye our Gold Saucer/Breeding Chocobos

I don't think it needs to be changed. Some vague something-or-other that the players don't fully understand is what can make a game special sometimes.

I agree, there needs to be an NPC we can pay some sizeable amount of gil to have our chocobos changed to a color of our choice. It would need to be limited to a selection of colors though, similarly to how NPCs don't sell every glamour dye color. Maybe have some method of unlocking more through quests or something.

Its RNG involved.
All I can say is keep trying.
And don't dump all fruits at once,try to feed around 20 - 30 then wait for result and go from there.

I don't think this needs changing. I've dyed my choco a few times and I had a lot of fun finding out how the system worked. I admit RNG can be unkind, I've been there and would definitely suggest a Han Lemon if you get stuck in a loop or keep getting the wrong colour. Yes it's a bit frustrating, but oh the feeling of satisfaction when you finally get it right.

Having put in a lot of time, effort and gil dyeing my choco, I know I'd feel a little resentful if people could just walk up to an NPC and get the exact colour they want with no effort. It would have to cost a serious amount of gil to make me comfortable with this idea.

We need metallic dyes for our chocobos!

Hmm, a NPC
You say to the NPC what colour you want and he give you the list of the needed fruits. Then you give him the fruits and he feed the Chocobo for you. With a high chance you will get your wanted colour (with a little chance a colour near the wanted colour).

A stable will still be required

Well the black chocobo is the hardest to get right truth to be told, meanwhile white is the easiest. But yeah, all in all it would be nice to see the system revamped.

It would be nice to have a better system. Not only is this locked behind the stables which means that you either need a house or apartment, but also has some kind of RNG behind it. Changing the color of your chocobo does not help you in other parts of the game, its purely for the player himself. So why does it need to be so complicated? Just have a NPC which will say how many of each fruit he needs and maybe a timer and some gil. With that the fruits can still be sold at the MB but at least you dont need to try all the time.

I'm sure they tried to do like FF7 with a big part of RNG :1 particular choco male + 1 particular choco lady + 1 particular seed = a baby chocobo with another color
But in FF7, if the baby was not the one you wanted, you just had to reboot your PS1 :D

Someone help me! I'm in an endless loop of Deepwood Green to Kobold Brown. I've been at these 2 colors trying to get to Soot Black. At Deepwood Green I need to feed 1 Cieldalaes Pineapple & 1 Valfruit according to that website. At Kobold Brown, I need 2 Doman Plums. Neither has generated Soot Black. I've tried changing it up feeding only 1 and still nothing. What more can I do to get Soot Black?

The fact that the system has a "calculator" at all is evidence enough that the system is screwed up. I wanted to color mine blue but wound up with red instead. Not a big deal really, but it baffles me that the coloring system is as complex as it is. Maybe I'm just dumb.

The problem is not only that you need some kind of "calculator" to get the color you want..but that there is still a portion of RNG mixed into this and thus the calculator can be wrong too..but seeing how LoV turned out..I probably should not be surprised that every little part needs to be way to complicated..

I finally got Soot Black from Deepwood Green after an eternity. I just had switch the order the site said Valfruit 1st, then Pineapples. This system sucks. Please change it for the better of Eorzean kind!

I got soot black and lotus pink on the first try.

More than a revamp to chocobos I wish we could just straight up dye mounts in general. Especially the mechanical ones.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

If there's RNG in your chocobo coloring, you're doing something wrong. Each fruit changes the color values by a set amount, so getting from A to B is a pretty straightforward calculation for a computer to do. Perhaps you're not giving it the right starting point to work with.

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The RNG is getting the message about growing new feathers. Sometimes it happens, sometimes not. So for every fruit you get that for you have to repeat that fruit until you get it before moving on to the next step. This can be hard to keep track of and hard to prepare for. You should really have twice the number of fruits (or more) ready to go. If they just remove randomness it would be much better. A visual indication of what you will get would be great.

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Originally Posted by Synrin

Well the black chocobo is the hardest to get right truth to be told, meanwhile white is the easiest. But yeah, all in all it would be nice to see the system revamped.

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Well Desert Yellow would be the easiest :D

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Originally Posted by ManuelBravo

I used this resource

http://ffxivchocobo.com/

seemed to work fine for me.

Simple put your current color then desired and it will tell you how many you need to feed it.

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We shouldn't need a third party site to figure out how to dye a specific colour.