Please REVAMP FRIEND LIST!!!

The stalking is REAL, it is NOT at ALL nice when I 'unfriended' someone and I'm still on their list. There was NO WARNING that friend list works on this one sided way.

It's taking away my joy in making new friends, 'proper' new friends. When the STALKERS kept sabotaging my gameplay, my PF, my privacy, my everything in the game becomes a eorzea nightmare!

I need you development team to know I am NOT HAPPY in EORZEA right now for the last 2 years because I can't DO ANYTHING properly. There are vindictive people or just down right crazy people. I cannot for the life of me start afresh in a new server, or new name, or new eorzea raid goal when the stalkers keep dreading my game, does anyone even understand my plea?! Please! It isn't funny at all! They follow me everywhere! like everywhere! wherever I teleport they can find me! Somebody please help me make some noise to Revamp Friend List Please!

Any actual harassment can be reported to GMs.
But is someone hanging around you causing you this much strife?

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Originally Posted by Onshinn

The stalking is REAL, it is NOT at ALL nice when I 'unfriended' someone and I'm still on their list. There was NO WARNING that friend list works on this one sided way.

It's taking away my joy in making new friends, 'proper' new friends. When the STALKERS kept sabotaging my gameplay, my PF, my privacy, my everything in the game becomes a eorzea nightmare!

I need you development team to know I am NOT HAPPY in EORZEA right now for the last 2 years because I can't DO ANYTHING properly. There are vindictive people or just down right crazy people. I

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File GM reports, blacklist them. Can't confirm, but blacklist may remove you from their friend list. Also, you will show up in player search, so if they really want to stalk you, they will do it that way. GM reports are the way to go in this particular case.

I've tried Blacklist, it doesn't work. its' all a one sided process. I know people can still search my lodestone. But in-game they know how to stalk without breaking the rules. whatever screenshots, reports etc etc. People know how to work around it.

Have a FC member who changed servers and character name to get away from a stalker. Said person was simply able to find them via their lodestone profile which didn't change, and followed them to our server. GM reports every time they contact you are the only way to go unfortunately. The more you file the better. Document every interaction no matter how small and you'll establish the paper trail that is needed for a GM to take increasing levels of action.

Hope you get peace soon :(

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Originally Posted by Onshinn

...in-game they know how to stalk without breaking the rules...

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Stalking is a rule breaker. The reason you need file reports is the fact players are much more creative than automated systems to prevent abuse, and it is needed human supervision.

Then much depends how things really are. I once got reported by a fc-less player because I dare sent him a tell asking if he wanna join my FC (he just replied he had reported me for harassment).

I'm always curious to know all the details of such incidents.

Wow, do those people have nothing better to do than follow you around? I'm sorry to hear about this OnShinn, but it's trivially easy for people to follow where you are in-game too with player search which always shows your location just like the friend list. The only benefit forcing the friend list link to break would be that your name wouldn't be highlighted to them. Please keep reporting them, and just ignore their harassment as best you can - eventually they'll realise they're paying to play a game of standing around someone who hates them and isn't upset, and have some kind of emotional awakening.

In the chat menu, set up timestamps (preferably linked to server time). Do whatever you have to do to get that stalker talking and get as many screenshots you can of your chat log. If they don't respond to you, keep taking pics of that person following you in as many obscure places as possible. Lastly, file GM reports as if you're filing a police report (exact details of each and every occurrence and THEN the emotional summary) with links to as many screenshots as you can cram into that report.

The easier you make it for a GM, the easier it will be to get rid of that stalker.

I stand right with you there. If only blacklist kept them out of our view :(

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Any actual harassment can be reported to GMs.
But is someone hanging around you causing you this much strife?

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I completely agree with this. Though I also agree with the OP. If I unfriend someone, it should remove them from my list, and remove me from theirs. Since friends lists are maintained on the local clients - IIRC - I can see why this is currently difficult. However, if friends lists get a reworking (especially an expansion to go cross world...) then, I believe they should be maintained server side, and when you remove a friend from your list, the system should reciprocate that move on the other player's list too. Conversely if you blacklist someone, the system should ideally place you on their blacklist as well, and at the same time remove you from their friend list (assuming you were ever there).

There's definitely room for improvement, but stalkers need to be reported regardless.

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Originally Posted by Lunafreya

I stand right with you there. If only blacklist kept them out of our view :(

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Blacklisting a player should;

• block them from all chat channels
• prevent your local client even rendering them
• prevent them from joining your party through PF
• prevent them from being matched to you through Duty Finder or Duty Roulette.
• remove them from your friendlist (if they were ever there)
• remove you from their friendlist (if you were ever there).

Is there an option to tag your lodestone entry as private? I feel like we should have the option of d-listing our character from the Lodestone.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

In the chat menu, set up timestamps (preferably linked to server time). Do whatever you have to do to get that stalker talking and get as many screenshots you can of your chat log. If they don't respond to you, keep taking pics of that person following you in as many obscure places as possible. Lastly, file GM reports as if you're filing a police report (exact details of each and every occurrence and THEN the emotional summary) with links to as many screenshots as you can cram into that report.

The easier you make it for a GM, the easier it will be to get rid of that stalker.

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Sad part is screenshots aren't accepted since they can be edited, and the GMs moniter stuff from some activity logs. Also getting him talking sounds like baiting in my understanding so I doubt that GMs would go after the stalker if it's found that it was so.

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Originally Posted by EorzeaHero69

Sad part is screenshots aren't accepted since they can be edited, and the GMs moniter stuff from some activity logs. Also getting him talking sounds like baiting in my understanding so I doubt that GMs would go after the stalker if it's found that it was so.

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Actually screenshots do help them because

1) the time stamps captured in the chat logs in those screenshots can be used to search for logs from those time periods more quickly and effectively than actually saying "oh, it's around this time".
2) GMs should know if a screenshot has been photoshopped, especially since screenshots with time stamps are permissible in some courts when graphics specialists that have studied the game can confirm whether or not they have been edited.

As for getting them to talk, it's not baiting if they're smart enough not to fall for it.