Orphanage Donation Rotation

Anyone got a good rotation for those?

depends on your gear. i can do it in like 6 steps of innerquiet/hasty touch then innovation great strides byregots and just CS II to finish it. pretty basic.

Varies on Gear and what cross class you have unlocked. So could you be abit more specific? Example what classes you have unlocked or what your able to HQ 3 start or 4 Star rating currently? If you can HQ 3 star you should be ok. It's not like you need to max out quality just min req. same amount reward.

Fully melded IW, just wanted to know the fastest rotation for those. 1019 craft, 955 control, 430cp

I'm using: Muscle Memory, CZ, IQ, WN, SH II, Basic Touch x5, Manipulation, SH II, Basic Touch, GS, Innovation, Ingenuity II, BB, CS II x3.

This is enough to do all the custom deliveries, including the 60 1-star, without food and without hasty touch (so no randomness involved). It's also pretty fast and can be made into a macro.

The only drawback is that it requires WN and Manipulation (as well as Muscle Memory and both Innovation and Ingenuity II at the same time), which might not be standard cross classes that you have for other rotations.

I use pretty much the same rotation as Assato above. I use Stone Soup to add 17 CP. Basically, you need IQ7 with Innov or IQ8 alone to reach 100% quality from zero quality. Progress-wise, Muscle Mem + 3x CS II under Ingen II seems to be the best. The problem is the 60 durab, which renders MM2 (160 CP) automatically losing 10 durab (meaning adding only 5 touches). So we prefer to do it by WN + Manip (144 CP, adding 5 touches) or Manip + Manip (176 CP, adding 6 touches). WN + Manip would be exactly as Assato's rotation above using pure Basic Touches reaching IQ7, and uses Innov to make that final boost of quality. Manip + Manip will let you reach IQ8, but apparently CP is really tight, and would require at least 1 Trick of Trade taken. In the end, I think Assato's rotation is the best way to go.

what worked for me is basically the rath rotation.
but you only use one piece by piece at the beginning and you may have to sacrifice a hasty touch attempt at the end for another careful synthesis II

requires a little bit of using the brain but i just did about 10 attempts with the store bought components to test and worked for me every time so far. Pretty good odds for like 800g worth of components

all the ones other than orphanage donation i just used a basic 40 durability macro with perfect success so far

I use: Muscle Memory, Comfort Zone, Inner Quiet, Steady Hand II, Basic Touch, Advanced Touch x2, Master's Mend II, Steady Hand, Great Strides, Innovation, Byregot's, Careful Synthesis II x3.

I have 430 CP on my blacksmith, Craft 1021, Control 963. Rotation uses no food. Good for components as well as the actual item.

One button Macro. Well at least it works on the Heartfelt gifts. We'll see about other things.

Another edit. Orphanage donation was too big for this macro. Had to add a Piece by Piece after the first Steady Hand, Make the second Steady Hand into a Steady Hand II and added a Hasty Touch after it. and used 4 Careful Synthesis II.

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Originally Posted by Assato

I'm using: Muscle Memory, CZ, IQ, WN, SH II, Basic Touch x5, Manipulation, SH II, Basic Touch, GS, Innovation, Ingenuity II, BB, CS II x3.

This is enough to do all the custom deliveries, including the 60 1-star, without food and without hasty touch (so no randomness involved). It's also pretty fast and can be made into a macro.

The only drawback is that it requires WN and Manipulation (as well as Muscle Memory and both Innovation and Ingenuity II at the same time), which might not be standard cross classes that you have for other rotations.

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Since you're at -35 at that point, can't you use Master's Mend instead of Manipulation there? You're only saving 3 CP anyway, and that puts it at 422 if I didn't miscalculate. To be honest, however, I have all of those cross-class skills on Blacksmith, which is the class I use to craft those things.

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Originally Posted by elfolampo

Since you're at -35 at that point, can't you use Master's Mend instead of Manipulation there? You're only saving 3 CP anyway, and that puts it at 422 if I didn't miscalculate. To be honest, however, I have all of those cross-class skills on Blacksmith, which is the class I use to craft those things.

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4 CP. But yeah, it's not a lot, sure you can use MM to save one cross class slot.

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Originally Posted by Assato

I'm using: Muscle Memory, CZ, IQ, WN, SH II, Basic Touch x5, Manipulation, SH II, Basic Touch, GS, Innovation, Ingenuity II, BB, CS II x3.

This is enough to do all the custom deliveries, including the 60 1-star, without food and without hasty touch (so no randomness involved). It's also pretty fast and can be made into a macro.

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Thank you. Made the macro

/ac "Muscle Memory" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Inner Quiet" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Waste Not" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/ac Manipulation <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/echo Macro #1 complete <se.1>

/ac "Great strides" <me> <wait.2>
/ac Innovation <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Ingenuity II" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
/ac Careful Synthesis II <me> <wait.3>
/ac Careful Synthesis II <me> <wait.3>
/ac Careful Synthesis II <me> <wait.3>

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Originally Posted by Shadygrove

SNIP

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That's exactly the same as the one I wrote for myself! :)

Here's 17 steps with no food that probably won't make you switch your cross classes around (955ish/900ish/430 req):
https://saber.s-ul.eu/6Nqrw75h
Should get you to 6040 even if you have pretty bad control, requires about 955/900/430 so eat some cheap vendor food if you didn't max meld cp i guess

here's your "1step macro"

Code:

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/ac "Muscle Memory" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Inner Quiet" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Master's Mend II" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Great Strides" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Ingenuity II" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>

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and if you really want a second macro:

Code:

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/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>

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My 2-part macro is very similar to Shadygrove's, with a few small differences:

Macro Name: Orphanage 1- 418CP

/ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
/ac "Waste Not" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Precise Touch"
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Precise Touch"
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Precise Touch"
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Precise Touch"
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
/echo Orphanage #1 ends! <se.2>


Macro Name: Orphanage 2- 418CP

/ac "Precise Touch"
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Precise Touch"
/ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Great strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Brow" <wait.3>
/ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
/echo Orphanage #2 ends! <se.3>

By fitting in Precise Touches before Basic Touches but with no wait time, it will automatically execute Precise Touches instead if they're available. There will be an error message on every touch, but it won't hurt.

By fitting a Byregot's Brow before Ingen2 with wait time, it will automatically execute Byregot's Brow under "Good" or "Excellent" conditions. Thus, this avoids an Excellent falling onto the Ingen2 step, which leaves Poor for the Byregot's Blessing. Ingen2 gives very little boost comparing to a Good on a Brow. So even if it wasn't an Excellent, but just a Good, the Brow will still be very strong. Notice that Brow only has a 70% success rate comparing to Blessing which has 90%. Hence, SH II is necessary. Luckily, under the arrangement here, SH II had already been used earlier, ensuring that the Brow is 100%. So no extra CP is needed. If Brow is executed, IQ stack = 0, and Blessing will not be executed. Since there's a wait time after Brow, Ingen2 will still be executed, providing the necessary boost on progress before the CS IIs.

This macro uses only 418 CP (and 412 CP if Brow is executed). This is as good as I can get for 2-part macros for 418 CP (which for a lot of us, means no need for any food), and the power should be very sufficient to bring the quality bar to max with nearly zero risk of failing.

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Originally Posted by Shadygrove

Thank you. Made the macro

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A variant is to remove CZ (convenient if people don't have it yet, or want to keep cross-skills to the minimum), and switch the second SH2 to SH1 and use a standard touch instead of the last BT. 425 CP.

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Originally Posted by cgbspender

A variant is to remove CZ (convenient if people don't have it yet, or want to keep cross-skills to the minimum), and switch the second SH2 to SH1 and use a standard touch instead of the last BT. 425 CP.

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Good to see you active here, cgbspender! :D *wave wave wave*

Actually, ST is 14 CP (+) more than BT, and SH is 3 CP (-) fewer than SH II, so the extra CP in the end is 11 (+).
418 + 11 = 429 CP needed, and this is still using CZ. If you remove CZ, then it'll be 443 needed.

Considering the fact that I personally have 425 base CP, it is actually valid since I can eat a Stone Soup and reach 442 CP.

If you're using ST, I think it's actually more beneficial to move Innov earlier to cover the ST. This renders Ingen2 unable to cover Blessing, but the final quality might be higher.

However, with this arrangement, you won't be able to fit in Byregot's Brow as a "Poor" condition protector for Blessing, because SH makes Brow unsafe, and also fitting Brow over GS doesn't make sense, as GS is 2x in power, while a "Good" + Brow would be significantly less powerful.

Omitting CZ does make the process 1 step faster. But with all these complications, I'd rather swap out Manipulation for Master's Mend instead like elfolampo suggested earlier. It's only 4 CP more, but it does the job of saving a cross class slot, and I can still fit in a Byregot's Brow.

Please see the analysis below:
http://oi67.tinypic.com/2s9etdk.jpg

Oh my bad, I meant to do it without Innovation at all, forgot to mention, thus making it 425 :)